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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: The Trees Shall Rise Again Reply #75 - Oct 31^st, 2014 at 3:46am	Print Post
	Lelouch wrote on Oct 31^st, 2014 at 3:39am: more complicated to play then casters melles nowadays. Much more click intensive. Comparing to my pallie that stands in one spot and holds down attack. :/

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Stinky_Pinky Waterworks Kobold Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 144 Location: Nowhere Joined: Aug 10^th, 2014	Re: The Trees Shall Rise Again Reply #76 - Nov 2^nd, 2014 at 11:39am	Print Post
	I wonder how this build plays out in ee mod. The damage is tits n all, but the lag from growing and the slowish movement speed might hurt.


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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: The Trees Shall Rise Again Reply #77 - Nov 2^nd, 2014 at 12:02pm	Print Post
	Stinky_Pinky wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2014 at 11:39am: I wonder how this build plays out in ee mod. The damage is tits n all, but the lag from growing and the slowish movement speed might hurt. Can see a lot of issues in MoD. Quell stops aura casting, while can be avoided with glimpse soul and it is not for long it is still annoying. Not being in DC and getting stoned. Neg level spam. Needing to heal from vol breath and abbot energy bursts. Crippling from archers.

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Stinky_Pinky Waterworks Kobold Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 144 Location: Nowhere Joined: Aug 10^th, 2014	Re: The Trees Shall Rise Again Reply #78 - Nov 2^nd, 2014 at 12:16pm	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2014 at 12:02pm: Can see a lot of issues in MoD. Quell stops aura casting, while can be avoided with glimpse soul and it is not for long it is still annoying. Not being in DC and getting stoned. Neg level spam. Needing to heal from vol breath and abbot energy bursts. Crippling from archers. Didn't think about not being able to jump, still looks fun as shit though.


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Fatty Mcgee Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 37 Location: In the Boooooth! Joined: Jun 30^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: The Trees Shall Rise Again Reply #79 - Nov 12^th, 2014 at 11:53am	Print Post
	Just got into epics with Rubbs build, and holy shit this is fun! Going to take more practice though getting the hang of tree fighting. So far though on the few EEs i've done shit just melts in front of you.


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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: The Trees Shall Rise Again Reply #80 - Nov 12^th, 2014 at 12:06pm	Print Post
	Fatty Mcgee wrote on Nov 12^th, 2014 at 11:53am: Just got into epics with Rubbs build, and holy shit this is fun! Going to take more practice though getting the hang of tree fighting.� So far though on the few EEs i've done shit just melts in front of you. Sigh. I miss this thing. The damage is just dumb. Gather any pack of mobs or a red named and go full retard watching them all die in 2 seconds or huge chunks of red bar deplete. Tree form is bugged for me. Forced me to tr out of it. Changing into tree or losing the form would freeze lag any public instance and all those in it. Yes, every single person in the harbor/market/etc. Or any quest/raid. I thoroughly enjoyed freezing up public instances by spamming tree shift button on and off until I ran out of spirit.. If the game were more populated I would stay in that unplayable glitch just to further grief any and all.
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	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Wipe VoD Slasher Offline Posts: 1917 Joined: Mar 26^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: The Trees Shall Rise Again Reply #81 - Nov 12^th, 2014 at 1:05pm	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Nov 12^th, 2014 at 12:06pm: Changing into tree or losing the form would freeze lag any public instance and all those in it. Yes, every single person in the harbor/market/etc. Or any quest/raid. I thoroughly enjoyed freezing up public instances by spamming tree shift button on and off until I ran out of spirit. This must be the same as Examine on Ranger lag/freeze. If I press Z 10 or 20 times, everything is frozen for good 10 minutes. No kidding. Can't even play the toon.
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Lelouch Shroud Slacker Offline What is a moron? A person playing ddo Posts: 1073 Joined: Apr 19^th, 2014	Re: The Trees Shall Rise Again Reply #82 - Nov 12^th, 2014 at 1:17pm	Print Post
	How do you mean bugged out? Do you have a idea what caused it? Got my own build idea that i want to test since the split im considering seems super fun. But did etr fix it? Did lesser tr fix it? Since il be finished with my barb pure experiment today. /con based barb has superb survival and selfheal but godawful dps, funny


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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: The Trees Shall Rise Again Reply #83 - Nov 12^th, 2014 at 1:27pm	Print Post
	Wipe wrote on Nov 12^th, 2014 at 1:05pm: This must be the same as Examine on Ranger lag/freeze. If I press Z 10 or 20 times, everything is frozen for good 10 minutes. No kidding. Can't even play the toon. Not gonna lie. It was awesome. I cackled maniacally while typing in I AM BECOME LAG in chat as my friends were asking me to please stop. But it is exactly as you wrote. Insta freeze for everyone anywhere. Lelouch wrote on Nov 12^th, 2014 at 1:17pm: How do you mean bugged out? Do you have a idea what caused it? Just as Wipe posted above. Was fine for few days and then suddenly I cant shapeshift in or out of tree without freezing everything. Lelouch wrote on Nov 12^th, 2014 at 1:17pm: But did etr fix it? Didnt try Lelouch wrote on Nov 12^th, 2014 at 1:17pm: Did lesser tr fix it? Worked for an hour.

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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gawker Ex Member I Love Drama!	Re: The Trees Shall Rise Again Reply #84 - Nov 12^th, 2014 at 8:54pm	Print Post
	Well now I have the tactic for the next protest movement. Screw "occupy market" sounds like 4-5 players could make quite a dent over a weekend.


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FuckThisShit Abbot Raider Offline Posts: 787 Joined: Jun 18^th, 2014	Re: The Trees Shall Rise Again Reply #85 - Nov 13^th, 2014 at 3:22pm	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Oct 29^th, 2014 at 6:18pm: yep, mostly. I didnt min/max just threw it together quickly. I felt that trying to get 2 more points out of the build seemed like it wasnt needed for a tree. Started with 14 dex to hit 15 for twf and 17 for g2wf. Int must be 13 for combat expert. No other reqs. 16 str 14 dex 16 con 10 int ( natural starting point as sun elf) 8 wis -dumped- 12 cha ( mainly for DM and some UMD) if going human or pdk can skip out on 2 fighter levels because free feat makes up for it. Level 1 (Cleric) Feat: (Selected) Power Attack Level 2 (Cleric) Level 3 (Monk) Feat: (Selected) Cleave Feat: (Monk Bonus) Two Weapon Fighting Level 4 (Monk) Feat: (Monk Bonus) Dodge Level 5 (Monk) Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Harmonious Balance: Fists of Light Level 6 (Monk) Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell Level 7 (Monk) Level 8 (Monk) Feat: (Monk Bonus) Mobility Level 9 (Fighter) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Great Cleave Feat: (Selected) Spring Attack Level 10 (Cleric) Level 11 (Cleric) Level 12 (Fighter) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting Level 13 (Cleric) Level 14 (Fighter) Level 15 (Fighter) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Two Weapon Fighting Feat: (Selected) Master of Forms Level 16 (Fighter) Level 17 (Fighter) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Combat Expertise Level 18 (Monk) Feat: (Selected) Whirlwind Attack Level 19 (Monk) Level 20 (Monk) Level 21 (Epic) Feat: (Selected) Epic: Overwhelming Critical Level 22 (Epic) Level 23 (Epic) Level 24 (Epic) Feat: (Selected) Grandmaster of Forms Level 25 (Epic) Level 26 (Epic) Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting Level 27 (Epic) Feat: (Selected) Epic: Epic Damage Reduction Level 28 (Epic) Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Forced Escape http://i.imgur.com/12EJlTw.png http://i.imgur.com/rSaV4fJ.png 2 ap into warpriest for smite and dm. if gone like this what sorta os stats are we looking at in epics (prr, dodge etc)? also what sorta gear do you use while levelling in epics?


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Bigjunk Horoluth Raider Offline Hjeal meh! Posts: 2686 Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: The Trees Shall Rise Again Reply #86 - Nov 13^th, 2014 at 3:50pm	Print Post
	Stinky_Pinky wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2014 at 11:39am: I wonder how this build plays out in ee mod. The damage is tits n all, but the lag from growing and the slowish movement speed might hurt. had two guildies try it out, it wasn't that effective. Both of them abandoned it.


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Bigjunk Horoluth Raider Offline Hjeal meh! Posts: 2686 Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: The Trees Shall Rise Again Reply #87 - Nov 13^th, 2014 at 3:51pm	Print Post
	Wipe wrote on Nov 12^th, 2014 at 1:05pm: This must be the same as Examine on Ranger lag/freeze. If I press Z 10 or 20 times, everything is frozen for good 10 minutes. No kidding. Can't even play the toon. Still? TRing fixed that for me.


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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: The Trees Shall Rise Again Reply #88 - Nov 13^th, 2014 at 8:55pm	Print Post
	FuckThisShit wrote on Nov 13^th, 2014 at 3:22pm: if gone like this what sorta os stats are we looking at in epics (prr, dodge etc)? also what sorta gear do you use while levelling in epics? Str 50 with DM running con 40 dex low 30s cha 30 dumped int and wis Dodge 30 and reflex low 70s in water stance at level cap. PRR 140 in earth with improved combat expert stance twist from ld, and stand with stone twist(190 in tree). My set up before 27/28: convo bracers parry 20% / ethereal at cap pdk/3bc glove / fot gloves at cap epic mask of comedy / dragon masque at cap antipode slotted with endless night+ conflux str 8 / litany+ tf wraps at cap black robe / shadow robe at cap 3bc boots / health 10+seeker 10 at cap golden guile / abbot necklace sheltering ring 24 / dun robar tendon slice at cap epic ring of stalker / fot ring for imp deception at cap con-op hp gsteel cloak balance of land and sky sp gsteel goggles w/ eldritch saves ritual arkat cord / battlerager harness at cap

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Lelouch Shroud Slacker Offline What is a moron? A person playing ddo Posts: 1073 Joined: Apr 19^th, 2014	Re: The Trees Shall Rise Again Reply #89 - Nov 13^th, 2014 at 11:09pm	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Nov 13^th, 2014 at 8:55pm: Str 50 with DM running con 40 dex low 30s cha 30 dumped int and wis Dodge 30 and reflex low 70s in water stance at level cap. PRR 140 in earth with improved combat expert stance twist from ld, and stand with stone twist(190 in tree). My set up before 27/28: convo bracers parry 20% / ethereal at cap pdk/3bc glove� / fot gloves at cap epic mask of comedy / dragon masque at cap antipode slotted with endless night+ conflux str 8 / litany+ tf wraps at cap black robe / shadow robe at cap 3bc boots / health 10+seeker 10 at cap golden guile / abbot necklace sheltering ring 24 / dun robar tendon slice at cap epic ring of stalker / fot ring for imp deception at cap con-op hp gsteel cloak balance of land and sky sp gsteel goggles w/ eldritch saves ritual arkat cord� / battlerager harness at cap Im considering to use epic jidz and a spider silk in e stance. Both w increases should stack. Also for twists getting issues what to do. For example human spp boost stacks with fsoul one, so im thinking that human damage should stack with dreadnought one. So pondering between 2 setups, first would be full tier of consecration, t 2 3 4 and the w from gmaster or 2nd damage boost then consecration and w from monk, but dont know if the damage part for 10% is worth droping. Hard to decide.


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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: The Trees Shall Rise Again Reply #90 - Nov 14^th, 2014 at 1:50am	Print Post
	Lelouch wrote on Nov 13^th, 2014 at 11:09pm: Also for twists I went: sacred ground tier 3 consecration tier 2 improved combat expertise tier 2 dance of flowers tier 1. Wasnt human or pdk. Missed out on dual boosting damage and melee power(either from vanguard, kotc if pally splash, or LD twist tier 2). Could also up dodge and reflex for evasion using tier 1 unearthly reactions instead of dance of flowers. Eveningstar cloak for exceptional seeker is another thing I missed out on.

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Lelouch Shroud Slacker Offline What is a moron? A person playing ddo Posts: 1073 Joined: Apr 19^th, 2014	Re: The Trees Shall Rise Again Reply #91 - Nov 14^th, 2014 at 2:13am	Print Post
	I also am going with a weird split, seems overall better for some things i want. Split and feats are perfect so far. In case i like it im even considering to do a pdk life and waste a +1 heart to get amauntors fireshield passive thingie. Will write about it after i mess around with it in epics and see how i like/dislike it. Twists, ap, those are the things im having a big issue atm. Also split is different for pdk and human version. With all the offense/defense im getting from those trees it was a no brainer to drop palie and fighter. In planer and on paper its perfect. But how it will play out i really dont know. Asked guildie to test some spells for aura ticks for me, all he presented as feedback was odd and interesting.
	« Last Edit: Nov 14^th, 2014 at 2:40am by Lelouch »

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FuckThisShit Abbot Raider Offline Posts: 787 Joined: Jun 18^th, 2014	Re: The Trees Shall Rise Again Reply #92 - Nov 14^th, 2014 at 2:55am	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Nov 13^th, 2014 at 8:55pm: Str 50 with DM running con 40 dex low 30s cha 30 dumped int and wis Dodge 30 and reflex low 70s in water stance at level cap. PRR 140 in earth with improved combat expert stance twist from ld, and stand with stone twist(190 in tree). My set up before 27/28: convo bracers parry 20% / ethereal at cap pdk/3bc glove� / fot gloves at cap epic mask of comedy / dragon masque at cap antipode slotted with endless night+ conflux str 8 / litany+ tf wraps at cap black robe / shadow robe at cap 3bc boots / health 10+seeker 10 at cap golden guile / abbot necklace sheltering ring 24 / dun robar tendon slice at cap epic ring of stalker / fot ring for imp deception at cap con-op hp gsteel cloak balance of land and sky sp gsteel goggles w/ eldritch saves ritual arkat cord� / battlerager harness at cap tyvm dude i really appreciate that


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Lelouch Shroud Slacker Offline What is a moron? A person playing ddo Posts: 1073 Joined: Apr 19^th, 2014	Re: The Trees Shall Rise Again Reply #93 - Nov 17^th, 2014 at 10:46pm	Print Post
	On mother forums: Figured my issue out. If your using avatar of nature you need to turn your effects off in your combat log. The changing forms spams your log. So its a flawless build now
	« Last Edit: Nov 17^th, 2014 at 10:56pm by Lelouch »

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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: The Trees Shall Rise Again Reply #94 - Nov 18^th, 2014 at 12:03am	Print Post
	Lelouch wrote on Nov 17^th, 2014 at 10:46pm: On mother forums: Figured my issue out. If your using avatar of nature you need to turn your effects off in your combat log. The changing forms spams your log. So its a flawless build now doesnt work for me or my guildie.

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Lelouch Shroud Slacker Offline What is a moron? A person playing ddo Posts: 1073 Joined: Apr 19^th, 2014	Re: The Trees Shall Rise Again Reply #95 - Nov 20^th, 2014 at 3:42pm	Print Post
	Since i cant log in to stupid lama, always when i type pass and name does nothing, so i deleted that bs. Can you test for me if holy sword aplies to tree form. Had this funny idea of a 14 palie 5 cleric 1 monk /will be heavy feat starved prolly so most prolly drop monk stances but use it for multi whirlwind hit or smthn. Can you do me the favor and just check if holy sword on wraps carries over to tree form? I assume no, but want to hear if yes or no


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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: The Trees Shall Rise Again Reply #96 - Nov 20^th, 2014 at 5:26pm	Print Post
	I can try that on live. Swap pally into tree form after casting Holy Sword on weapon.

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Lelouch Shroud Slacker Offline What is a moron? A person playing ddo Posts: 1073 Joined: Apr 19^th, 2014	Re: The Trees Shall Rise Again Reply #97 - Nov 28^th, 2014 at 8:09am	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Nov 20^th, 2014 at 5:26pm: I can try that on live. Swap pally into tree form after casting Holy Sword on weapon. Tested myself, it seems to aplly. So i guess if feats can be fit in, 14 palie 5 cleric 1 monk might be the best tree build and possibly the higest dps build in ddo currently. Issue is: no cleave feats, you get only the crusader cleave and since you are t5 in cleric cant pick the aoe cleave. Now if there was� a way to drop cleric entirely for healing ticks sigh.
	« Last Edit: Nov 28^th, 2014 at 9:25am by Lelouch »

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Packfan Waterworks Kobold Offline It's personal Posts: 197 Joined: Jul 24^th, 2013	Re: The Trees Shall Rise Again Reply #98 - Nov 28^th, 2014 at 9:39am	Print Post
	I'm gonna start playing with splits also, find one that works for me. I'm about to cap again so I can TR into a tree build. It seems like there's no way around 5Clr and at least 1M. The rest is pretty much open to play with.


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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: The Trees Shall Rise Again Reply #99 - Nov 28^th, 2014 at 11:15am	Print Post
	Lelouch wrote on Nov 28^th, 2014 at 8:09am: Issue is: no cleave feats, you get only the crusader cleave and since you are t5 in cleric cant pick the aoe cleave. 8 heroic feats as human, 1 monk feat, 3 epic feats. 5 for ww, 2 for master stance, pa, clv, grt clv, imp crit, and OC.

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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