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ZooperDooper Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1200 Joined: Oct 27^th, 2014	handwraps/empty handed build Nov 4^th, 2014 at 10:22am	Print Post
	Looking at this since getting the gloves from CC.. REALLY would like to see some build breakdowns that can take advantage of them. I have a few .. ok, a LOT of various handwraps I've never bothered to equip because I know nothing about monks and various splash builds. Since I've got wraps for virtually every occasion, and quite a few light weapons that a Monk/assassin etc might take advantage of.. who can help?


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Munkenmo Epic Poster Offline Posts: 4338 Location: A land under down under Joined: Nov 10^th, 2010	Re: handwraps/empty handed build Reply #1 - Nov 4^th, 2014 at 2:50pm	Print Post
	a druid hybrid would be the way to go for max dps. if you for some reason want a monk that plays like a monk. http://www.ddovault.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1384392593

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ZooperDooper Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1200 Joined: Oct 27^th, 2014	Re: handwraps/empty handed build Reply #2 - Nov 4^th, 2014 at 2:55pm	Print Post
	druid hybrid sounds pretty good, but I've never, ever played a druid. Got a link to a build breakdown? Don't know that 1st thing about em..


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Munkenmo Epic Poster Offline Posts: 4338 Location: A land under down under Joined: Nov 10^th, 2010	Re: handwraps/empty handed build Reply #3 - Nov 4^th, 2014 at 4:11pm	Print Post
	ZooperDooper wrote on Nov 4^th, 2014 at 2:55pm: druid hybrid sounds pretty good, but I've never, ever played a druid. Got a link to a build breakdown? Don't know that 1st thing about em.. why don't you take a few minutes and browse the build forums.

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ZooperDooper Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1200 Joined: Oct 27^th, 2014	Re: handwraps/empty handed build Reply #4 - Nov 4^th, 2014 at 4:57pm	Print Post
	I have.. nothing even remotely recent. Saw a couple potentials, but non of them hybrids, and I'm wondering how to best involve u23.1 changes. I would love to get the best experience possible with a new build. I've never had a legitimate BAD build, and have always had fun with every build.


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Breakdancer Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 4 Joined: Nov 2^nd, 2014	Re: handwraps/empty handed build Reply #5 - Nov 4^th, 2014 at 5:21pm	Print Post
	Hi Munkenmo... Great build layout, which I'm looking to TR into, but would you change anything now that we have the Pally updates???


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Munkenmo Epic Poster Offline Posts: 4338 Location: A land under down under Joined: Nov 10^th, 2010	Re: handwraps/empty handed build Reply #6 - Nov 4^th, 2014 at 5:52pm	Print Post
	Most likely, I breifly went on lam for epic orchard (first time playing since february). It was much easier on my first life pure paladin with 2012 gear than it was playing on my completionist monk, purely because the devs went overboard with MRR and PRR changes. That build went up to 16monk because when I last played quivering palm was worthwhile, now that it's not, I'd most likely stop at 12monk. Given that 2wf provides no melee power and being centered offers no MRR reductions, if I were playing I'd either be TR'ing or playing a different class at cap (likely my paladin or my druid).

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Breakdancer Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 4 Joined: Nov 2^nd, 2014	Re: handwraps/empty handed build Reply #7 - Nov 4^th, 2014 at 5:56pm	Print Post
	Ok thanks for the input... I may hold off on the monk and keep with the staff build.. Prob going 15P / 3M / 2R....


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Munkenmo Epic Poster Offline Posts: 4338 Location: A land under down under Joined: Nov 10^th, 2010	Re: handwraps/empty handed build Reply #8 - Nov 4^th, 2014 at 6:06pm	Print Post
	Breakdancer wrote on Nov 4^th, 2014 at 5:56pm: Ok thanks for the input... I may hold off on the monk and keep with the staff build.. Prob going 15P / 3M / 2R.... I wouldn't bother with monk on that at all. bladeforged, 15p, 3rogue, 2fighter, wear heavy armor.

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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: handwraps/empty handed build Reply #9 - Nov 4^th, 2014 at 8:25pm	Print Post
	Munkenmo wrote on Nov 4^th, 2014 at 6:06pm: I wouldn't bother with monk on that at all. bladeforged, 15p, 3rogue, 2fighter, wear heavy armor. I agree with munk here. Nearly 200 prr. +6 to con or str, and dr 30/60 is hard to pass up. Unless you have enough pdk/divine lives to push your prr to 150 and a bunch of displace clickies. The benefits of monk are better in terms of raw dps and evasion. Dodge and 5% movement too(although you could pick up 10% move in stalwart tree). To be honest I wouldnt even bother with a staff. TF weapons like falchion and bastard sword are better.

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ZooperDooper Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1200 Joined: Oct 27^th, 2014	Re: handwraps/empty handed build Reply #10 - Nov 5^th, 2014 at 6:34am	Print Post
	So, do you know where I can find a good hybrid build then.. You mentioned Druid/Monk, but I haven't sen anything. Yours you just posted was nice, but not really a handwraps build, and certainly not a Druid/Monk hybrid


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Alex DeLarge Epic Poster Offline Get ready for some of the 'ol in-out, in-out Posts: 3467 Location: Foggy Albion Joined: May 11^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: handwraps/empty handed build Reply #11 - Nov 5^th, 2014 at 6:41am	Print Post
	ZooperDooper wrote on Nov 5^th, 2014 at 6:34am: So, do you know where I can find a good hybrid build then.. You mentioned Druid/Monk, but I haven't sen anything. Yours you just posted was nice, but not really a handwraps build, and certainly not a Druid/Monk hybrid 9 druid/ 9 monk/ 2 ranger YW.


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Mokune Shroud Slacker Offline Gimped Hairless Ape Posts: 1115 Joined: Nov 16^th, 2011	Re: handwraps/empty handed build Reply #12 - Nov 5^th, 2014 at 6:49am	Print Post
	To help you with any kind of build you need to answer a couple questions... -What +X Dexterity Tome do you have -Do you want to play as primarily melee or caster with moderate melee dps -Do you want to play in Wolf or Winter Wolf form or regular race? -1st life 32 pt, or 34 pt/36 pt build I can come up with lots of builds and splits but these basic questions need answered first to even start.

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Munkenmo Epic Poster Offline Posts: 4338 Location: A land under down under Joined: Nov 10^th, 2010	Re: handwraps/empty handed build Reply #13 - Nov 5^th, 2014 at 6:50am	Print Post
	You could google pastlifenmo, that might help get you started.

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Doggydaddy Titan Demolisher Offline Pull my Finger...... Posts: 324 Joined: Jun 24^th, 2014	Re: handwraps/empty handed build Reply #14 - Nov 5^th, 2014 at 6:56pm	Print Post
	+5 across the board Primary Melee, with some (support) casting Never played a Druid, so know nothing of wolf/bear forms. Which is best for melee? 36 pt build, 3 Rogue/3Pali/3fighter lives on 1st Barb life Mokune wrote on Nov 5^th, 2014 at 6:49am: To help you with any kind of build you need to answer a couple questions... -What +X Dexterity Tome do you have -Do you want to play as primarily melee or caster with moderate melee dps -Do you want to play in Wolf or Winter Wolf form or regular race? -1st life 32 pt, or 34 pt/36 pt build I can come up with lots of builds and splits but these basic questions need answered first to even start.


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Mokune Shroud Slacker Offline Gimped Hairless Ape Posts: 1115 Joined: Nov 16^th, 2011	Re: handwraps/empty handed build Reply #15 - Nov 6^th, 2014 at 9:26am	Print Post
	I don't care for the wolf or bear form fighting animations, it's very cumbersome for me to deal with. Lelouch and Munkenmo have great write ups for wolf form builds that are tight with deeper Class splits. I've played a few variatons of Water elemental form (Mantle of the Icy Soul) 2Monk/18Druid, Wis based and Evocation Focused or Wis Based and TWF+Stunning Fist, Cleaves and metas. If I were to do another melee DPS, non-DC caster + support build with Handwraps I would do. 3Monk/17Druid Human Master of Stone Fist of Light Water Elemental Form for Mantle of Icy Soul debuffing with no save cheap cold spells and ice storm/sleet storm. Strength (16pts) 18+level ups Dex (4pts) 12 Con (10pts) 16 Wis (3pts) 11 Int (3pts) 11 10 Heroic Feats TWFx3, PA, Stunning Fist, IC Bludgeon, Adept of Forms, Master of Forms, Quicken, Emp Heal Spell. 21-OC 24-whatever could be IC Piercing, Maximise etc 27-Blinding Speed or whatever if you have Goatskins or Epic Boots of the Innocent. Skills-Concentration, Balance, Heal, UMD, a lil Tumble and w/e else. Enhancements-Can you figure these out? I usually roll with them and change up what I don't like. There are great things in Ninja Spy/Shintao/Human/Season's Herald and Nature's Warrior (but take nothing for animal forms) Focus on boosting Strength, Wisdom, Heal Amp, Dodge, Saves, W&S Master any thing that gives PRR like when you are in Earth Stance and Fatal Harrier if you can keep the stacks up.

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