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U24 Dwarven Occult Slayer Barbarian
Nov 18th, 2014 at 6:33pm
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Level 28 Chaotic Good Dwarf Male
(20 Barbarian / 8 Epic)
Hit Points: 668
Spell Points: 0

BAB: 20/20/25/30/30
Fortitude: 23
Reflex: 8
Will: 7

Lama copy. 32 point build no trs. +4 tomes

              Starting    Feat/Enhancement
Abilities    Base Stats    Modified Stats
(32 Point)    (Level 1)      (Level 28)
Strength           16                20
Dexterity          10                14
Constitution       20                32
Intelligence       12                16
Wisdom              8                12
Charisma            6                10


Level 1 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack

Level 2 (Barbarian)

Level 3 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Cleave

Level 4 (Barbarian)

Level 5 (Barbarian)

Level 6 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave

Level 7 (Barbarian)

Level 8 (Barbarian)

Level 9 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons

Level 10 (Barbarian)

Level 11 (Barbarian)

Level 12 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Two Handed Fighting

Level 13 (Barbarian)

Level 14 (Barbarian)

Level 15 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Handed Fighting

Level 16 (Barbarian)

Level 17 (Barbarian)

Level 18 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Handed Fighting

Level 19 (Barbarian)

Level 20 (Barbarian)

Level 21 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Heavy Armor

Level 22 (Epic)

Level 23 (Epic)

Level 24 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Overwhelming Critical

Level 25 (Epic)

Level 26 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting

Level 27 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Epic Fortitude

Level 28 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Perfect Two Handed Fighting




Screen shot is without yugo pot, store pot, +4 profane cookie, madstone rage. Con could be another 10 points higher giving SR 10 more as well.




4 points into ravager. 3 ap for Hardy rage and 1 core(not pictured).




Maul thf in LD.

Twists would be:

Sacred Ground tier 3
Consecrated Ground tier 2
Serenity tier 2
Primal Scream tier 1

If you dont have 4th slot then twist 4 con tier 4, serenity and primal. Using the extra points in LD for better mom swing, anvil of thunder, seeker etc.

SF pots are a must unless you want to die.


  

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Re: U24 Dwarven Occult Slayer Barbarian
Reply #1 - Nov 19th, 2014 at 1:27am
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Why maul?

Are you able to cast consecration while raged?

  

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probably cause pulverizer, tywa, blunt, undead

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Reply #3 - Nov 19th, 2014 at 5:44am
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A good question to ask:

How hard is Maul twitching compared to GS, GA or Falchions?
  

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Re: U24 Dwarven Occult Slayer Barbarian
Reply #4 - Nov 19th, 2014 at 7:33am
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Saw cetuses video, really no point to do a barb with current changes.
Dps is horrible in current state and survival is horrible.
IF you go occult you lose dps from multiplifers, yes survival, but a palie still outshines barb in every aspect.
Still not hot, unless they add something more to capstone.

I played a occult on live til couple days ago, you can basically burst sr to over 100 even now, not much is chaning in that regard beside getting 4 more from capstone.
Issue is occult has freaking horrible dps, and you could somewhat fix it by doing 2 weapon fight and hope balanced procs, but even 10 stacks of blitz it does like 30% damage of a nonstacked wolf or a 3-4 stack palie.

Its not numbers or whatever, its from play experience, to low dstrike, to much effort to stay alive, and no real dps increase.
IF you go berserker you suck even more due to need to sacrifice of a gear slot on fom + no proper mrr and prr.
/pot works only a bit but they dispell it like crazy in Enecro
Barb in its current form might be ok for some hybrid builds to abuse ear smash that costs less now, but dont know.
No idea how ravager is, i only played with berserker and occult and from my experience and from looking what they did so far, there is no point to swap to barb from palie currently.
Maybe it will change if they polish it a bit more on lama, they really should just make barb a freaking glass cannon class
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Reply #5 - Nov 19th, 2014 at 7:40am
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Alex DeLarge wrote on Nov 19th, 2014 at 5:44am:
How hard is Maul twitching compared to GS, GA or Falchions?

Slower. And accompanied by a dull thwacking sound. (yes, every weapon is, but I've convinced myself there's a vorpal sound every time I swing swords)

I needed a decent crit range on the con based build and figured I'd rather crit 10% more than 1 extra multiplier.

Lelouch wrote on Nov 19th, 2014 at 7:33am:
palie still outshines every fucking thing in every aspect.

ftfy. I need the PL and it's something different. Nothing is ever going to beat Holy Sword, Infi heals, sixteen million PRR, redonk saves.
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Re: U24 Dwarven Occult Slayer Barbarian
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crunch wrote on Nov 19th, 2014 at 2:09am:
probably cause pulverizer, tywa, blunt, undead

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Reply #7 - Nov 19th, 2014 at 7:50am
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Lelouch wrote on Nov 19th, 2014 at 7:33am:
Issue is occult has freaking horrible dps

Not really like how it is on live. Better dps, more cleave type attacks. Isnt higher than whirlwind tree, swf/2wf wolf, pally or swash. Probably not higher than Cetus kensei build either. Berserker spec'd is gross dps though. Can crit helpless mobs for 14k.
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Reply #8 - Nov 19th, 2014 at 8:05am
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Rubbinns wrote on Nov 19th, 2014 at 7:40am:
Slower. And accompanied by a dull thwacking sound. (yes, every weapon is, but I've convinced myself there's a vorpal sound every time I swing swords)

I needed a decent crit range on the con based build and figured I'd rather crit 10% more than 1 extra multiplier.

ftfy. I need the PL and it's something different. Nothing is ever going to beat Holy Sword, Infi heals, sixteen million PRR, redonk saves.

IF you need plife why not just rush a 9 barb 9 druid 2 rogue or smthn, or the 10 barb 10 sorc?
Less frustrating and keep it for heroic levels only.

I really wanted a reason to play a barb but i dont see it.
Seems like they really dont want to push their dps, i mean 1 more crit multiplifer or 2 wont hurt, if you put it in all capstones, since as you played yourself a wolf or tree or palie.
My bet is even that 15 ranger 4 palie 1 fighter would be better dps /if you include survival.
The tree build im doing on my main now is a bit orthodox and funny but so far im really happy with it, went with 8 monk 7 wizz 5 cleric for first attempt, swap in twilight spam buffs auras haste n such swap to tree and wrack never even bothering about going out of form.
Super fun, only issue is i saw how broken it is, melted couple ee bosses, and now i got 0 will to play ddo.
I really hoped barb change would give me reason to play it again a bit more.

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Reply #9 - Nov 19th, 2014 at 8:24am
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Lelouch wrote on Nov 19th, 2014 at 8:05am:
IF you need plife why not just rush a 9 barb 9 druid 2 rogue or smthn, or the 10 barb 10 sorc?
Less frustrating and keep it for heroic levels only.

I hate heroics. All my raid gear is in epics and I get to match Eds with 80ap. More enjoyable for me.

It's a niche build. With an SR that cant be breached and that ability that knocks down casters when they cast at you. Kind of like a mini ball of anti-magic running around.

And, besides. If there ever were a quest where one had to fight a room of thirty six beholders at once. This is the build to do it in.
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Reply #10 - Nov 19th, 2014 at 8:54am
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This is sad....  I feel like my bastard sword + orb pally is in hospice waiting to die, and I cannot do a thing to save him.
  
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Kluege wrote on Nov 19th, 2014 at 8:54am:
This is sad....  I feel like my bastard sword + orb pally is in hospice waiting to die, and I cannot do a thing to save him.


You dont have to...No fail on a 1, he saves himself
  

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Reply #12 - Nov 20th, 2014 at 2:57pm
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So a full retard drow barbarian could net ... um, 25 more SR? I haven't been able to get onto Lama. The notes seemed to indicate yes.

I'm intrigued, possibly because it is the stupidest thing to do.
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Reply #13 - Nov 20th, 2014 at 5:33pm
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I think they get 10+ character level and another 6 in racial tree. You could actually make this and use con as a secondary stat. Get con to 40s, drow sr 44, serenity twist 9 would be 93 without rage and primal.

  

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Reply #14 - Nov 21st, 2014 at 11:26am
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So is Barbarian worth it?  I mean, versus respecing my sword and orb into vanguard sword and board?  Between these two, not really looking at other builds right now.
  
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Rubbinns wrote on Nov 20th, 2014 at 5:33pm:
I think they get 10+ character level and another 6 in racial tree. You could actually make this and use con as a secondary stat. Get con to 40s, drow sr 44, serenity twist 9 would be 93 without rage and primal.

I forgot the 10+. This build could prove interesting if there are any old forgotten effects that are flagged as "spell." I want to build one on Lama, just to take into places it might break.
  

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Revaulting wrote on Nov 21st, 2014 at 3:35pm:
I forgot the 10+. This build could prove interesting if there are any old forgotten effects that are flagged as "spell." I want to build one on Lama, just to take into places it might break.

Try it and see if they stack. I know Diamond Soul does not stack with drow.
  

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Rubbinns wrote on Nov 21st, 2014 at 3:45pm:
Try it and see if they stack. I know Diamond Soul does not stack with drow.

Finally was able to get onto Lama. I had enough time to throw a test build together. It got up to 101 SR when raged; 90 with just mod gear + the neclace of eidolons. (I remember you saying something about hating it, so naturally....) No twists. No Con from destinies.

Not at all an optimized build. Con was only ~44. There seemed to be an issue with the SR stacking until I got into epic levels. I didn't have enough time to do anything but test the concept, so I don't know if it's a potential bug, if the stacking is triggered by something in one of the destiny trees, or if I just forgot to rage, and that's what triggered the stacking.
  

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Revaulting wrote on Nov 23rd, 2014 at 1:44am:
Finally was able to get onto Lama. I had enough time to throw a test build together. It got up to 101 SR when raged; 90 with just mod gear + the neclace of eidolons. (I remember you saying something about hating it, so naturally....) No twists. No Con from destinies.

Not at all an optimized build. Con was only ~44. There seemed to be an issue with the SR stacking until I got into epic levels. I didn't have enough time to do anything but test the concept, so I don't know if it's a potential bug, if the stacking is triggered by something in one of the destiny trees, or if I just forgot to rage, and that's what triggered the stacking.

I do hate the necklace. ;p

The bug is when you overlap rage(con buff). The fix is to swap a con item. Any will do, insightful, exceptional, w/e.
  

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So, I made one of these...Occult Slayer capstone included. 20th level and a 46 unbuffed CON.

I have ZERO spell resistance. ZERO.

Any ideas?
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Arkat wrote on Dec 19th, 2014 at 1:44pm:
So, I made one of these...Occult Slayer capstone included. 20th level and a 46 unbuffed CON.

I have ZERO spell resistance. ZERO.

Any ideas?

game is buggy. Swap your con item out(any, insightful, exceptional, profane, etc) and wait a few seconds. Then swap it back on. Also happens when a second rage or primal scream is applied.

  

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Rubbinns wrote on Dec 19th, 2014 at 1:51pm:
game is buggy. Swap your con item out(any, insightful, exceptional, profane, etc) and wait a few seconds. Then swap it back on. Also happens when a second rage or primal scream is applied.


Well that changed my character sheet to reflect a 46 Spell Resist alright. Thanks.

Is it just that the display is buggy or do I really not have a 46 SR unless I un-equip and then re-equip a CON item?
  

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Arkat wrote on Dec 19th, 2014 at 1:57pm:
Well that changed my character sheet to reflect a 46 Spell Resist alright. Thanks.

Is it just that the display is buggy or do I really not have a 46 SR unless I un-equip and then re-equip a CON item?

not a display bug. you will get hit with spells unless you swap out. can be deadly if caught off gaurd.
  

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Rubbinns wrote on Dec 19th, 2014 at 2:00pm:
not a display bug. you will get hit with spells unless you swap out. can be deadly if caught off gaurd.

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Reply #24 - Dec 20th, 2014 at 8:18am
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I am looking at the character sheet and my wife looks over and says" hey thats not me that says male"

So yeah this is pretty close to what she has. Are those numbers with rage? She does not rage and has no problem living off of cocoon and SF pots rarely.

*edit* With tier 2 TF GA

As far as damage.with 10 stacks of blits she is hitting for 400-500 and criting for 2000-3000. Could someone who has had super high dps toons give me some solid numbers like that for DPS. All I have heard is description words for all forms of DPS but don't have really good numbers to go off of that don't come from a retard.

Thanks and have a great day!
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