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Re: U24 Dwarven Occult Slayer Barbarian
Reply #25 - Dec 20th, 2014 at 10:35am
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Ill make this build twf, are cleaves worth it on twf?
  
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Reply #26 - Dec 20th, 2014 at 9:56pm
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Who Cares wrote on Dec 20th, 2014 at 8:18am:
Are those numbers with rage?

Yep

Who Cares wrote on Dec 20th, 2014 at 8:18am:
As far as damage.with 10 stacks of blits she is hitting for 400-500 and criting for 2000-3000.

Should be higher with a great axe. Depends on gear and con score and not raging hurts the numbers as well. deadly, sneak attack, seeker all help.

Viktor Vaughn wrote on Dec 20th, 2014 at 10:35am:
Ill make this build twf, are cleaves worth it on twf?

It can work. 5 foot has his build on dual heavy picks.

But THF is just better. You will kill more trash faster than twf/swf
  

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Reply #27 - Dec 23rd, 2014 at 8:15pm
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Alex DeLarge wrote on Nov 19th, 2014 at 5:44am:
A good question to ask:

How hard is Maul twitching compared to GS, GA or Falchions?


Is twitching even worth it anymore? I can't remember bothering with twiching since the removal of Epic Ward in 2011ish.
  
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Reply #28 - Dec 30th, 2014 at 3:07am
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Who Cares wrote on Dec 20th, 2014 at 8:18am:
I am looking at the character sheet and my wife looks over and says" hey thats not me that says male"

So yeah this is pretty close to what she has. Are those numbers with rage? She does not rage and has no problem living off of cocoon and SF pots rarely.

*edit* With tier 2 TF GA

As far as damage.with 10 stacks of blits she is hitting for 400-500 and criting for 2000-3000. Could someone who has had super high dps toons give me some solid numbers like that for DPS. All I have heard is description words for all forms of DPS but don't have really good numbers to go off of that don't come from a retard.

Thanks and have a great day!


Numbers are not DPS.
  

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Reply #29 - Dec 30th, 2014 at 3:08am
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Viktor Vaughn wrote on Dec 20th, 2014 at 10:35am:
Ill make this build twf, are cleaves worth it on twf?


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Reply #30 - Dec 30th, 2014 at 3:10am
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Rubbinns wrote on Dec 20th, 2014 at 9:56pm:
But THF is just better. You will kill more trash faster than twf/swf


No.

(But mainly only because there are no 2 handers with a x4 crit. I would totally go THF with a scythe.)
  

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Reply #31 - Dec 30th, 2014 at 3:10am
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Astraghal wrote on Dec 23rd, 2014 at 8:15pm:
Is twitching even worth it anymore? I can't remember bothering with twiching since the removal of Epic Ward in 2011ish.


Twitching is worth more than ever, since you can glance while moving now.
  

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Reply #32 - Dec 30th, 2014 at 7:00am
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5 Foot Step wrote on Dec 30th, 2014 at 3:10am:
No.

(But mainly only because there are no 2 handers with a x4 crit. I would totally go THF with a scythe.)

yes, better reach and glances. gg short range twf that doesnt glance mortal fear
  

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Reply #33 - Dec 30th, 2014 at 8:23am
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5 Foot Step wrote on Dec 30th, 2014 at 3:10am:
Twitching is worth more than ever, since you can glance while moving now.


Cool.
  
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Reply #34 - Dec 30th, 2014 at 9:05am
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5 Foot Step wrote on Dec 30th, 2014 at 3:10am:
No.

(But mainly only because there are no 2 handers with a x4 crit. I would totally go THF with a scythe.)

Holy sword, esos x4, 13-20 in ld, 11-20 in dc.
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Reply #35 - Dec 30th, 2014 at 10:21pm
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Rubbinns wrote on Dec 30th, 2014 at 7:00am:
yes, better reach and glances. gg short range twf that doesnt glance mortal fear


Get out of here with your reach. Like I can't move half an inch closer.

Offhand > glance. I have free cleaves if I am surrounded.
  

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Reply #36 - Dec 30th, 2014 at 10:23pm
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Viktor Vaughn wrote on Dec 30th, 2014 at 9:05am:
Holy sword, esos x4, 13-20 in ld, 11-20 in dc.


SoS is a nice twink weapon, but no mortal fear so...

but hey I'll swap it in if you mail me a shard.
  

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Reply #37 - Dec 30th, 2014 at 10:35pm
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5 Foot Step wrote on Dec 30th, 2014 at 10:21pm:
Get out of here with your reach. Like I can't move half an inch closer.

Offhand > glance. I have free cleaves if I am surrounded.

You cant glance your offhand either. When cleaving a pack of mobs you wont get more targets from a smaller attack range. Your cleaves do not glance. Reach helps to hit more mobs at once, which also trumps your cleaves against a pack of mobs. Much faster to clear trash.

If you wanted a x4 2hd it has to be great axe in LD. Also gives an additional 1 on 19-20 for x5.
  

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Reply #38 - Dec 30th, 2014 at 10:57pm
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The point is I don't need glances. I don't get packs of mobs because they die too fast. I have 80% of my attacks proccing offhand attacks for mortal fear while you only only get 50% of your attacks proccing glances that only have a 50% of being able to proc mortal fear. At the same time, I am dealing shitloads more base damage than you.

Enjoy your niche flavor build, but don't pretend it's better at dps or trash clearing.
  

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Reply #39 - Dec 30th, 2014 at 11:17pm
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Some guy that (poorly) copied my build posted a 6:42 solo EE vol completion video.

https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/441641-DDO-YouTube-link?p=5504136&view...

What's your solo EE vol completion time?
  

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Reply #40 - Dec 31st, 2014 at 1:06am
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5 Foot Step wrote on Dec 30th, 2014 at 10:57pm:
I don't get packs of mobs because they die too fast.

right because packs of mobs dont spawn densely in certain quests

5 Foot Step wrote on Dec 30th, 2014 at 10:57pm:
you only only get 50% of your attacks proccing glances

no


5 Foot Step wrote on Dec 30th, 2014 at 10:57pm:
Enjoy your niche flavor build, but don't pretend it's better at dps or trash clearing.

THF is niche? What's the matter with you? It is miles better at clearing trash.

5 Foot Step wrote on Dec 30th, 2014 at 11:17pm:
Some guy that (poorly) copied my build posted a 6:42 solo EE vol completion video.

https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/441641-DDO-YouTube-link?p=5504136&view....

What's your solo EE vol completion time?


lolwut? Denial tactics. Here's Cetus in ee break ranks on a thf.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWO8C9wq5o0

under 11:40

lol@ what's your solo ee break ranks on 2wf dude bro!!!???!!!!!!!?!?!!!

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Reply #41 - Dec 31st, 2014 at 1:48am
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Rubbinns wrote on Dec 31st, 2014 at 1:06am:
right because packs of mobs dont spawn densely in certain quests


Not for long when I'm fighting them.

Rubbinns wrote on Dec 31st, 2014 at 1:06am:
no


Glances are only good for mortal fear procs, but mortal fear has a cooldown,  so what's better: more consecutive proc chances or more concurrent proc chances?

Rubbinns wrote on Dec 31st, 2014 at 1:06am:
THF is niche? What's the matter with you? It is miles better at clearing trash.


THF is legit and is optimal for several classes, but not barbarian. Occult Slayer is niche...that should be obvious, I believe you stated it in your OP.

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lolwut? Denial tactics. Here's Cetus in ee break ranks on a thf.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWO8C9wq5o0

under 11:40

lol@ what's your solo ee break ranks on 2wf dude bro!!!???!!!!!!!?!?!!!



You are not Cetus and Cetus would not be caught dead rolling an Occult Slayer. I posted a time for my build, you post a time for yours.
  

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Reply #42 - Dec 31st, 2014 at 2:01am
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5 Foot Step wrote on Dec 31st, 2014 at 1:48am:
Not for long when I'm fighting them.

lol

5 Foot Step wrote on Dec 31st, 2014 at 1:48am:
so what's better: more consecutive proc chances or more concurrent proc chances?

you are correct. But thf can hit like 7 targets clustered. whats 2wf get 3 on a cleave?

5 Foot Step wrote on Dec 31st, 2014 at 1:48am:
Occult Slayer is nich

right. im not comparing occult slayers to your build. Im answering question of what i feel is better style against mob density

5 Foot Step wrote on Dec 31st, 2014 at 1:48am:
You are not Cetus and Cetus would not be caught dead rolling an Occult Slayer. I posted a time for my build, you post a time for yours.

again, idk where you got this idea that im comparining OS vs FB. And you are not the guy in vid either, so
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Reply #43 - Dec 31st, 2014 at 3:28am
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Reply #44 - Dec 31st, 2014 at 3:31am
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5 Foot Step wrote on Dec 31st, 2014 at 3:28am:
Roll Eyes

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Reply #45 - Dec 31st, 2014 at 3:44am
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First off, I don't usually cleave, but when I do I only supreme cleave and strikedown. (cue dos equis gif)

Second, you can't get more than one mortal fear proc per swing, so why are you beating your chest like a rabid ape over your practically worthless glances?
  

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Reply #46 - Dec 31st, 2014 at 3:48am
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5 Foot Step wrote on Dec 31st, 2014 at 3:44am:
you can't get more than one mortal fear proc per swing, so why are you beating your chest like a rabid ape over your practically worthless glances?

you can proc MF on multiple mobs on one hit.
  

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Reply #47 - Dec 31st, 2014 at 3:53am
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Rubbinns wrote on Dec 31st, 2014 at 3:48am:
you can proc MF on multiple mobs on one hit.


No.
  

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Reply #48 - Dec 31st, 2014 at 3:55am
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5 Foot Step wrote on Dec 31st, 2014 at 3:53am:
No.

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Reply #49 - Dec 31st, 2014 at 4:02am
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Rubbinns wrote on Dec 31st, 2014 at 3:55am:
yes


I don't believe you, fuckwit.
  

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