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Re: U24 Max DPS Barbarian
Reply #25 - Nov 27th, 2014 at 6:12am
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SayWhatAgain wrote on Nov 27th, 2014 at 5:34am:
All and all I'd say your single target red name dps is good.


I concur. We'll see how it looks when it goes live though.
  

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Reply #26 - Nov 27th, 2014 at 8:57am
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Just for "some" comparison, it takes 1 : 30 or 1 : 35 to kill Elder Seal Keeper on my gimpy  Elven Tempest.
Tier 3 TF rapier and Balizarde. Full Blitz, no special buffs or twists.
Haste boost only ( cuz Elf ) and only one Martial past life.
  
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Reply #27 - Nov 27th, 2014 at 11:24am
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5 Foot Step wrote on Nov 27th, 2014 at 2:19am:
Critical rage is bugged and not doubling with improved critical. That will be a big DPS bump if/when they fix it.


Did it ever double with imp crit? I remember when the cap was 16 this was not the case.
  
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Reply #28 - Nov 27th, 2014 at 4:35pm
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Teth wrote on Nov 27th, 2014 at 11:24am:
Did it ever double with imp crit? I remember when the cap was 16 this was not the case.


Probably not,... BUT every other crit range extender doubles with improved critical. Keen Edge, Holy Sword, Swashbuckling...it should be consistent if it's not going to stack.
  

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Reply #29 - Nov 27th, 2014 at 4:36pm
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Wipe wrote on Nov 27th, 2014 at 8:57am:
Just for "some" comparison, it takes 1 : 30 or 1 : 35 to kill Elder Seal Keeper on my gimpy  Elven Tempest.
Tier 3 TF rapier and Balizarde. Full Blitz, no special buffs or twists.
Haste boost only ( cuz Elf ) and only one Martial past life.


I remember it taking longer than that on my pure pally...but I think I had a few pikers upping the dungeon scaling.
  

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5 Foot Step wrote on Nov 27th, 2014 at 4:35pm:
Probably not,... BUT every other crit range extender doubles with improved critical. Keen Edge, Holy Sword, Swashbuckling...it should be consistent if it's not going to stack.


Yea, problem is critical rage is a very very old enhancement, in fact the first ever to implement enhanced critical profile. I doubt you will ever see that changed or redone.
  
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Reply #31 - Nov 28th, 2014 at 12:21am
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Teth wrote on Nov 27th, 2014 at 6:34pm:
Yea, problem is critical rage is a very very old enhancement, in fact the first ever to implement enhanced critical profile. I doubt you will ever see that changed or redone.


Are you implying that when critical rage returned with the enhancement pass that they used ancient recycled code to implement it? 

Huh

The same devs who reinvent the wheel and leave it half-finished?
  

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Re: U24 Max DPS Barbarian
Reply #32 - Nov 28th, 2014 at 12:35am
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It's turbine,inconsistency is what they do best.
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Reply #33 - Nov 28th, 2014 at 6:10pm
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5 Foot Step wrote on Nov 28th, 2014 at 12:21am:
Are you implying that when critical rage returned with the enhancement pass that they used ancient recycled code to implement it? 

Huh

The same devs who reinvent the wheel and leave it half-finished?



Fuckers, always wondered why.
  
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Re: U24 Max DPS Barbarian
Reply #34 - Dec 15th, 2014 at 7:45am
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I built it on live. It's awesome. Here's what I ended up with.

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Race: Human/PDK
Alignment: Neutral
Class: 20 Barbarian


Stats:..........Level 1 (36 pt build)

Strength............18 (+ level ups)
Dexterity...........13 (+4 tome or better required)
Constitution.......17
Intelligence........10
Wisdom..............8
Charisma............8


Feat Progression

Level 1   : Power Attack, Heavy Armor Proficiency
Level 3   : Cleave
Level 6   : Completionist
Level 9   : Improved Critical-Piercing
Level 12 : Two Weapon Fighting
Level 15 : Improved Two Weapon Fighting
Level 18 : Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Level 21 : Overwhelming Critical
Level 24 : Weapon Focus-Piercing
Level 26 : Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
Level 27 : Power Critical
Level 28 : First Blood



Enhancements

Ravager: 38 AP

Core 5/6
Barbarian Power Attack 3/3
Ritual Scarring 3/3
Hardy Rage 3/3
Do You Like Pain? 3/3
Action Boost: Melee Power 3/3
I Like Pain 3/3
+1 Str
+1 Str
I Hit Back 3/3
Critical Rage 2/2
Blood Strength
Bully 2/3

Frenzied Berserker: 41 AP

Core 6/6
Die Harder 1/3
Power Rage 3/3
Extra Rage 3/3
Athletics 3/3
Cracking Attack 3/3
Body Blow 3/3
Supreme Cleave 3/3
Sprint Boost 3/3
Extra Action Boost 3/3
+1 Con
+1 Con
Crazy Strike 3/3

Human: 1 AP

Damage Boost

Epic Destiny: Divine Crusader

Purge the Wicked
Bane of Undeath
Interrogation
Str +1

Consecration 3/3
Flames of Purity 1/3

Sacred Ground

Crusade
No Regret

Celestial Champion
Castigation
Heavenly Presence

Strike Down

Twists: 4/3/2/1

Sense Weakness
Balanced Attacks
Hail of Blows
Tunnel Vision


Gear:

Armor : Shadow Dragon Plate (striker)
Goggles : Epic Mentau's
Helmet : Mythic Emerald Gaze
Necklace : Shroud of Ardent
Trinket : Epic Litany
Cloak : Mysterious JuJu Cloak
Belt : Epic Thoughtful Remembrance
Ring 1: ToD Ring w/ 40 heal amp (Encrusted or Verik's)
Ring 2: EE Shadows
Gloves : Sanctified Gages
Boots : Madstone Boots
Bracers : Epic Ethereal
Quiver : Epic Alacrity

Weapons:

Mainhand: Thunderforged Heavy Pick (touch of flames/wrath of flames/mortal fear)
Offhand: Thunderforged Heavy Pick (1st degree burns/dragons edge/mortal fear)
(That should be a 13-20x4 critical, but as noted before crit rage doesn't double with Improved Critical. Also important to note that Celestial Champion won't apply it's range increase unless you unequip and reequip your weapons in each new instance. So it's 19-20x4 at quest start, then 17-20x4 when you reequip, then 15-20x4 when you rage.)

Backup: 2x Mutineer's Blades, TF blunt, TF slashing
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Reply #35 - Dec 15th, 2014 at 6:39pm
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Well done.
  
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Reply #36 - Dec 15th, 2014 at 8:10pm
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Reply #37 - Dec 15th, 2014 at 10:57pm
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Reply #38 - Dec 15th, 2014 at 11:49pm
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Highest DPS non-exploit build in the game. Also beats most exploit builds.
  

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Re: U24 Max DPS Barbarian
Reply #39 - Dec 16th, 2014 at 9:12am
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Thx for sharing the build. 

I will have to give this a shot.  I am a little bored with my 2wf pally and want to make a barb since I have not played one in many years.  And, if I don't like it, at least it gets the past life...

One Question, does blood rage work correctly and does it work with No Regret or does one trump the other?

Now, just have the task of clearing out the TR bank.  Always a pain in the ass.
  
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Reply #40 - Dec 16th, 2014 at 10:35am
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Managed to clear mine by crafting a bunch of GS and deconstruct OP weapons from 2 years back and i am ready to jump into action.
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Reply #41 - Dec 16th, 2014 at 11:28am
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You missed ear smash w/ Knock out.  Missing that is a mistake.  You need to find a way to take Ear Smash.
  
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Reply #42 - Dec 16th, 2014 at 12:35pm
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Would this build still be viable if it were a THF instead of TWF? I'm assuming the DPS would be less but would it be majorly less?

I have an older melee toon that is a Cleaver build which i do enjoy but he is a bit stale and I really need to outfit him with newer gear since he's been on the shelf so long.
  
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Reply #43 - Dec 16th, 2014 at 2:44pm
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5 Foot Step wrote on Dec 15th, 2014 at 7:45am:
Twists: 4/3/1/1

Sense Weakness
Balanced Attacks
Fast Healing
Tunnel Vision

Gear:

With such low fort, you will get critted by trash mobs, even more so by champions or bosses. Deathknights will one shot you.
Shadow ( 130 ) plus Brace for Impact ( 40 fort ) is must have imo on any melee.
Don't really like the gear either.
I'd definitely want more heal amp, especially on barb and lack of seeker ( on supposedly crits emphasis build ).
Possibly swap both rings for Tod ring with amp and EE Consuming darkness.
Still don't know definitive answer about Ring of Shadows blur "stacking" or not, and Thunderclap is just negligible damage.
  
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Reply #44 - Dec 16th, 2014 at 9:04pm
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Kluege wrote on Dec 16th, 2014 at 9:12am:
Thx for sharing the build. 

I will have to give this a shot.  I am a little bored with my 2wf pally and want to make a barb since I have not played one in many years.  And, if I don't like it, at least it gets the past life...

One Question, does blood rage work correctly and does it work with No Regret or does one trump the other?

Now, just have the task of clearing out the TR bank.  Always a pain in the ass.


Blood Rage is a horrible enchantment on shitty gear.

Blood Strength appears to stack since I pretty much get full healed on every kill. I didn't specifically test it though.
  

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Reply #45 - Dec 16th, 2014 at 9:06pm
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Aeolwind wrote on Dec 16th, 2014 at 11:28am:
You missed ear smash w/ Knock out.  Missing that is a mistake.  You need to find a way to take Ear Smash.


No can do. After mandatories in FB and ravager trees I only have 2 points left over. Besides, almost anything that can be CC'd dies to quickly to bother, so I usually don't bother with tactics, but trip works when I need it.
  

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Reply #46 - Dec 16th, 2014 at 9:09pm
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radonek wrote on Dec 16th, 2014 at 12:35pm:
Would this build still be viable if it were a THF instead of TWF? I'm assuming the DPS would be less but would it be majorly less?

I have an older melee toon that is a Cleaver build which i do enjoy but he is a bit stale and I really need to outfit him with newer gear since he's been on the shelf so long.


Definitely viable. The AoE damage will be very nice if pain touch and vicious and the other shit are activating on every glance.
  

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Reply #47 - Dec 16th, 2014 at 9:22pm
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Wipe wrote on Dec 16th, 2014 at 2:44pm:
With such low fort, you will get critted by trash mobs, even more so by champions or bosses. Deathknights will one shot you.
Shadow ( 130 ) plus Brace for Impact ( 40 fort ) is must have imo on any melee.
Don't really like the gear either.
I'd definitely want more heal amp, especially on barb and lack of seeker ( on supposedly crits emphasis build ).
Possibly swap both rings for Tod ring with amp and EE Consuming darkness.
Still don't know definitive answer about Ring of Shadows blur "stacking" or not, and Thunderclap is just negligible damage.


I have 1400 hp and +200% amp at level 26 without even trying. I steamrolled 12 EEs last night without getting oneshotted. You just don't get by physical attacks very often when you stack all those miss chances.

There are other sources of fort, but swapping out fast healing for brace is easy if you need it.

Really the gear was just off the top of my head, I'm not even at cap yet. Wearing Mentau goggles and swapping in glimpse when you need TS or intercession ward is an easy matter.

EE shadows is legit, but the non-weapon gear isn't really important in this build...if you don't like the skirmisher ring, wear something else.
  

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Reply #48 - Dec 16th, 2014 at 11:09pm
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Wipe wrote on Dec 16th, 2014 at 2:44pm:
With such low fort, you will get critted by trash mobs, even more so by champions or bosses. Deathknights will one shot you.
Shadow ( 130 ) plus Brace for Impact ( 40 fort ) is must have imo on any melee.
Don't really like the gear either.
I'd definitely want more heal amp, especially on barb and lack of seeker ( on supposedly crits emphasis build ).
Possibly swap both rings for Tod ring with amp and EE Consuming darkness.
Still don't know definitive answer about Ring of Shadows blur "stacking" or not, and Thunderclap is just negligible damage.


Why would you want to run that shitty raid on ee?
You zerg it on en and call quits on it.
To build a character based on 1 raid?

Tree builds for example, are flawless builds that suck in that raid, so you would call all tree builds sucky because they dont steamroll in the most horrofic and boring raid in existence of ddo?

I dont see logic in that, if i was to play ddo i would first build a build based on content that wont make me want to kill myself

Also, might try this version of barb, just because its a barb and seems ultra fun xD

How is selfheal with ravager if you tested?
Saw them say they will change it to 20 scaled by melle power

Also i will most prolly drop ring of shadows for ee consuming and keep knosts for amp
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Reply #49 - Dec 16th, 2014 at 11:12pm
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Lelouch wrote on Dec 16th, 2014 at 11:09pm:
Why would you want to run that shitty raid on ee?
You zerg it on en and call quits on it.
To build a character based on 1 raid?

Tree builds for example, are flawless builds that suck in that raid, so you would call all tree builds sucky because they dont steamroll in the most horrofic and boring raid in existence of ddo?

I dont see logic in that, if i was to play ddo i would first build a build based on content that wont make me want to kill myself


Yeah, I already farmed out litany, quiver, shroud, and gages on my barbarian. I'm not going to build around one raid that I don't need anything from.
  

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