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Who Cares Not this guy ^^^ Offline You sir, are a dickbag. Posts: 1951 Joined: Dec 5^th, 2014	Re: Champions Reply #150 - Dec 17^th, 2014 at 12:41pm	Print Post
	Bigjunk wrote on Dec 17^th, 2014 at 12:03pm: You know I'll now be able to figure out who you are� There is no reason at all why people who care DON'T know who I am lol. but really? Who cares

	Fuck Off, That is all Strakeln wrote on Feb 10^th, 2016 at 9:17pm: WC can do whatever he wants. [] wrote on Feb 6^th, 2017 at 11:26pm: Public Service Announcement: your servers are not dead; if you can't find groups, it means you suck and/or nobody likes you.
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Flav Vault Frog Offline One Frog to Rule them All! Posts: 10012 Location: Land of the Frogs Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Champions Reply #151 - Dec 17^th, 2014 at 12:59pm	Print Post
	Bigjunk wrote on Dec 17^th, 2014 at 10:46am: Not randomly, and no changes in epics that could potentially break heroic play. For the leveling process I think EE is fine as it is.� When non-capped, running with god-only-knows-WTF-that-build-is pugs, on builds for PLs not synergistic with your gear/playstyle, it's challenging enough that I still have to pay attention. On my best toons, on the right destiny, at their cap of course it's easy.� But who the fuck is leveling that these days?� I cannot even remember the last time I've seen a Wizard in a TR leveling group as most of the good players got those toons done first.� ETR has been out about a year, people have gotten that "good" lives done already.� We've now doing complete bullshit for PL goodness like my current Bladeforged rogue (no, I didn't lost a bet) that are kinda shitty but I don't gain any more benefits from other PLs at this point.� When doing this leveling EE as it is in compelling enough to be fun. Challenge me at the end-game, challenge me in raids.� Challenge me at cap.� We got 13:30 on an EE MOD last week, it was awesome.� �Getting that under 10 minutes is a good challenge for my group of mooks. Turbine's old epics were a good system - challenge people who are capped with a loot pursuit.� Go for that "Mythic" difficulty, give us that setting above EE that gives NO XP, but add something to it so there is a reason to be at cap and stay at cap.� Give us an actual end-game and challenge us there.� Put the sentient weapons/items there and allow the GEAR to get XP, not the players. And for fuck's sake no random shit please, Feather ruined "random" for all time. Yup, Add the underlevel challenge... How low can you be and still complete quests... ( add an incentive for people to challenge quests that way ) Come on there's lots of possibility to make the game fucking challenging while having fun and without using retarded inflated hitpoint meatballs.

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Who Cares Not this guy ^^^ Offline You sir, are a dickbag. Posts: 1951 Joined: Dec 5^th, 2014	Re: Champions Reply #152 - Dec 17^th, 2014 at 4:20pm	Print Post
	love them or hate them one thing is for sure, this is the most attention anyone has paid to DDO in a long time.

	Fuck Off, That is all Strakeln wrote on Feb 10^th, 2016 at 9:17pm: WC can do whatever he wants. [] wrote on Feb 6^th, 2017 at 11:26pm: Public Service Announcement: your servers are not dead; if you can't find groups, it means you suck and/or nobody likes you.
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JW Dragon Raider Offline I Love dead cats Posts: 247 Joined: Feb 12^th, 2014	Re: Champions Reply #153 - Dec 17^th, 2014 at 5:36pm	Print Post
	Please no more random shit. DDO+random=lag. Just think about all the quest that are semi random. They all lag. Champions should've been just that... champions. The last time I was excited in this game was when I ran into that bitch in thunderholme. She hit me once and I said OH FUCK and ran my ass out of there. Now� if champions where like her that would be cool. Just imagine seeing her spawn in the middle of a mob instead of what we have now.
	« Last Edit: Dec 17^th, 2014 at 5:47pm by JW »

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Who Cares Not this guy ^^^ Offline You sir, are a dickbag. Posts: 1951 Joined: Dec 5^th, 2014	Re: Champions Reply #154 - Dec 18^th, 2014 at 5:31pm	Print Post
	Just another half finished system I guess [QUOTE=Cordovan;5499136]Separating out Champion settings on Heroic and Epic levels is something we may consider for the future, but will take additional development time if we pursue this path. [/quote]

	Fuck Off, That is all Strakeln wrote on Feb 10^th, 2016 at 9:17pm: WC can do whatever he wants. [] wrote on Feb 6^th, 2017 at 11:26pm: Public Service Announcement: your servers are not dead; if you can't find groups, it means you suck and/or nobody likes you.
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Ah Pook Puppy Farmer Offline Posts: 314159265 Posts: 1439 Joined: Mar 10^th, 2014	Re: Champions Reply #155 - Dec 18^th, 2014 at 11:38pm	Print Post
	I just ran Heyton's Rest for favour...� Crowned Devourer Acolyte shot a bunch of magic missiles at me... I mouse over, and he has 652 hitpoints.� �� SIX HUNDRED FIFTY! LMAO.� I can see people complaining about that one.� Very first quest in the game, and he had more hp than I did at level 18.

	Daggertooth wrote on Apr 14^th, 2017 at 6:52pm: I'm pretty fucking sure I am a special snowflake. Frank wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 8:32am: Laugh it up, funny man.
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DropBear Dropbear Awareness Society Offline Don't forget to look up.... Posts: 4380 Location: Landdownunder Joined: Oct 11^th, 2013	Re: Champions Reply #156 - Dec 19^th, 2014 at 12:51am	Print Post
	Ah Pook wrote on Dec 18^th, 2014 at 11:38pm: I just ran Heyton's Rest for favour...� Crowned Devourer Acolyte shot a bunch of magic missiles at me... I mouse over, and he has 652 hitpoints.� �� SIX HUNDRED FIFTY! LMAO.� I can see people complaining about that one.� Very first quest in the game, and he had more hp than I did at level 18. Yeah, this is the kinda stuff they need to fix - that is not WAI, but it sounds like they can't because it is a global setting. Any 1st level character, assuming it survives the unlimited MM, is going to take 10 mins to bring it down.

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Viktor Vaughn Puppy Farmer Offline Eberron burns Posts: 1561 Joined: Mar 19^th, 2014	Re: Champions Reply #157 - Dec 19^th, 2014 at 11:29am	Print Post
	In lvl 12-13 elite quests some champions have 5-6k hp. EE bag of hp.


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ILoveExploits Horoluth Raider Offline I Love Exploits! Posts: 2157 Location: piking @ work Joined: Oct 31^st, 2013 Gender:	Re: Champions Reply #158 - Dec 19^th, 2014 at 12:01pm	Print Post
	Turdbine is making a great job ruining the game.

	Dear players, The D&D rules you were familiar with were too simple to understand, so we're continuing our move away from them to needlessly confusing subsystems that will make your play experience less fun and invalidate old builds and loot. We hope you have fun working out what the fuck MRR, PRR, MP, SP, RP, CL, MCL and all the other bullshit we made up whilst drunk means. Love, People who don't know how to fix their own mistakes cleanly
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kum-gulp VoD Slasher Offline I Love Tired Vault Memes! Posts: 1812 Joined: Jul 16^th, 2010	Re: Champions Reply #159 - Dec 19^th, 2014 at 12:05pm	Print Post
	DropBear wrote on Dec 19^th, 2014 at 12:51am: Yeah, this is the kinda stuff they need to fix - that is not WAI, but it sounds like they can't because it is a global setting. Any 1st level character, assuming it survives the unlimited MM, is going to take 10 mins to bring it down.� �� Do first level chars not exploit over-level items, weapons, buffs. augments and ED benefits any more then? If you think about a party of six and the dps output of a bunch of TRs... doesn't seem that far off reasonable to me, for a "champion". But yes, HP inflation is the lazy dev's way to increase what they get paid to think is the challenge.
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GimpyPaw Titan Demolisher Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 351 Joined: Jun 24^th, 2012	Re: Champions Reply #160 - Dec 19^th, 2014 at 12:07pm	Print Post
	Ah Pook wrote on Dec 18^th, 2014 at 11:38pm: I just ran Heyton's Rest for favour...� Crowned Devourer Acolyte shot a bunch of magic missiles at me... I mouse over, and he has 652 hitpoints.� �� SIX HUNDRED FIFTY! LMAO.� I can see people complaining about that one.� Very first quest in the game, and he had more hp than I did at level 18. This is so f'vkd up. For a few YEARS turbine hasn't been bothering to even advertise and try to draw in new players. Now they are advertising, and getting new players into Korthos. Way to welcome in and retain the new player base turbine. Good job as usual.


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Who Cares Not this guy ^^^ Offline You sir, are a dickbag. Posts: 1951 Joined: Dec 5^th, 2014	Re: Champions Reply #161 - Dec 19^th, 2014 at 12:20pm	Print Post
	yeah even though I personally liked the challenge, it was kind of a stupid play. If they wanted to increase the challenge in this game all they had to do was absolutely nothing with all the current shit, and just make some new shit that had the same difficulty selectors, just make them actually mean what they fucking say. Some quests are harder than others, all they really need to do is just give us some fucking hard quests. They don't have to ramp the difficulty up on Haverdasher, who fucking cares about that shit. But some new, actually fucking hard quests is all the dipshits have to fucking give us. If they created one tough as nails quest chain with 4 or 5 quests and some uber shit at the end, we would run the shit out of that. Just fucking one. we don't need to change the difficulty on %90 of the quests in this game. Fuck if you only put the champions out in shavarath nobody would have fucking noticed. At level that shit is till fucking hard, you don't fucking see these crybabies out there ever. Unless its in a pack or a level 28. And if they made it F2P thier could be no cry-babying about it being too hard, well its free bub is all they would have to say.

	Fuck Off, That is all Strakeln wrote on Feb 10^th, 2016 at 9:17pm: WC can do whatever he wants. [] wrote on Feb 6^th, 2017 at 11:26pm: Public Service Announcement: your servers are not dead; if you can't find groups, it means you suck and/or nobody likes you.
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hikari shinji Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 60 Location: Thelagnis Joined: Oct 19^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Champions Reply #162 - Dec 19^th, 2014 at 12:26pm	Print Post
	Who Cares wrote on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 2:50am: Hitting cocoon once in a while is a smaller drop in DPS than some asshat in the group who just stands there waiting to mother hen my red bar. within a game that has so many variables, the champions will make alot of EE puggers shit their pants. I for one enjoy the challenge, bout fucking time you threw some mobs in there who could kick my ass without a second thought if im not on my A+ game. i still like dont drink the water EE when 3/6 of the yuan-ti and all the names are champions. makes my cleaves much more tasty, and mortal fear for trash champions? need i say more? all in all they should make 3 different types of champions for each difficulty so the fucking whiners on mothershitforums can have their cake, eat it too, then walk away and say "fuck cake, its for losers.

	A good portion of you are whining on the internet, to people that can't change anything, about a game you dont play.
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ILoveExploits Horoluth Raider Offline I Love Exploits! Posts: 2157 Location: piking @ work Joined: Oct 31^st, 2013 Gender:	Re: Champions Reply #163 - Dec 19^th, 2014 at 12:36pm	Print Post
	Champions were a great idea bad implemented like everything Turdbine does. I'm ok making the game harder, for some quests the champions were just fine but for others they are a fucking nightmare. Like the golems in fleshmaker, the fucking mobs doublestrike all the time. Even with PRR, dodge and displace 1 hitted me for 500 damage each hit. This is like the fucking green dragon in well.

	Dear players, The D&D rules you were familiar with were too simple to understand, so we're continuing our move away from them to needlessly confusing subsystems that will make your play experience less fun and invalidate old builds and loot. We hope you have fun working out what the fuck MRR, PRR, MP, SP, RP, CL, MCL and all the other bullshit we made up whilst drunk means. Love, People who don't know how to fix their own mistakes cleanly
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Flav Vault Frog Offline One Frog to Rule them All! Posts: 10012 Location: Land of the Frogs Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Champions Reply #164 - Dec 19^th, 2014 at 3:51pm	Print Post
	ILoveExploits wrote on Dec 19^th, 2014 at 12:36pm: Champions were a great idea bad implemented like everything Turdbine does. Yeah, the implementation : making huge HP meatballs sucks but the idea : making the game harder is good. That's what I said from the start about that idea.

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ElGuapo Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 215 Joined: Aug 7^th, 2014	Re: Champions Reply #165 - Dec 19^th, 2014 at 4:36pm	Print Post
	did an EE inferno run today. champion non-orange-trash-mob flesh golems hitting me for over 1500. with 150 PRR and 180%+ fort. and the 1500 I saw wasnt a crit.


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Gringo Abbot Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 881 Location: Prague, Europe Joined: Nov 22^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: Champions Reply #166 - Dec 19^th, 2014 at 6:56pm	Print Post
	there are fleshgolems in inferno? also did u have any vulnerability stacks or some debuff on u?


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ILoveExploits Horoluth Raider Offline I Love Exploits! Posts: 2157 Location: piking @ work Joined: Oct 31^st, 2013 Gender:	Re: Champions Reply #167 - Dec 19^th, 2014 at 6:59pm	Print Post
	I think he meant magma golems. And they do 1500 damage because it's 500 normal damage + 1k moronic damage. What's the point to have PRR if all the fucking mobs do more damage that bypass the PRR?
	« Last Edit: Dec 19^th, 2014 at 7:01pm by ILoveExploits »
	Dear players, The D&D rules you were familiar with were too simple to understand, so we're continuing our move away from them to needlessly confusing subsystems that will make your play experience less fun and invalidate old builds and loot. We hope you have fun working out what the fuck MRR, PRR, MP, SP, RP, CL, MCL and all the other bullshit we made up whilst drunk means. Love, People who don't know how to fix their own mistakes cleanly
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AnalFissure Waterworks Kobold Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 178 Joined: Jun 20^th, 2013	Re: Champions Reply #168 - Dec 19^th, 2014 at 7:20pm	Print Post
	ElGuapo wrote on Dec 19^th, 2014 at 4:36pm: did an EE inferno run today. champion non-orange-trash-mob flesh golems hitting me for over 1500. with 150 PRR and 180%+ fort. and the 1500 I saw wasnt a crit. Strongs only! These make EE fun again! You must be gimp. Stop whining about not getting a participation trophy for EE. This shit is not turdbinedly broken. You're just not as uberawesomeelite as some of us. There's a casual difficulty for you to run. I haven't seen that much damage from these random buffs in the 2 dungeons I ran, so you must be lying. wank wank circlejerk wank spooge wank swallow.


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DropBear Dropbear Awareness Society Offline Don't forget to look up.... Posts: 4380 Location: Landdownunder Joined: Oct 11^th, 2013	Re: Champions Reply #169 - Dec 19^th, 2014 at 9:57pm	Print Post
	kum-gulp wrote on Dec 19^th, 2014 at 12:05pm: Do first level chars not exploit over-level items, weapons, buffs. augments and ED benefits any more then? If you think about a party of six and the dps output of a bunch of TRs... doesn't seem that far off reasonable to me, for a "champion". But yes, HP inflation is the lazy dev's way to increase what they get paid to think is the challenge. You're right, TR train party would probably steamroll, but I think that Champ was a solo. What would it have with party scaling? But I used to run all those quests on my mules on Elite for Coin Lord favor (and some XP). Note sure my 1st level mule on a FTP account is going to handle a 650HP, magic missile spamming mob.... I know I'm not uber, but that is a big ask. Will have to run it on a higher level toon in party and just go for favor.

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Gringo Abbot Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 881 Location: Prague, Europe Joined: Nov 22^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: Champions Reply #170 - Dec 20^th, 2014 at 8:56am	Print Post
	first, i m not telling thats right - 650hp mob in heytons definitely is not. but theres also no reason go there on 1st lvl toon, esp if it s brand new or nontwink i maybe never done korthos elites before i cleared harbor solo ones and waterwork wilderness, starting korthos at lvl 2 or even 3 but well heroic champs are off - i was in elite weapon shipment twice yesterday, and each time i had restart, cause at first spawn of mobs, i got hit by couple seconds lag and barbed devil champ oneshoted that damn mage:)


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ILoveExploits Horoluth Raider Offline I Love Exploits! Posts: 2157 Location: piking @ work Joined: Oct 31^st, 2013 Gender:	Re: Champions Reply #171 - Dec 20^th, 2014 at 9:17am	Print Post
	OMG Can you imagine protecting Coyle with those stupid champions? Thats Turdbine ruining solo , invis and protect retarded NPCs in one shot. Damn man i can't understand why the game is dying.
	« Last Edit: Dec 20^th, 2014 at 10:24am by ILoveExploits »
	Dear players, The D&D rules you were familiar with were too simple to understand, so we're continuing our move away from them to needlessly confusing subsystems that will make your play experience less fun and invalidate old builds and loot. We hope you have fun working out what the fuck MRR, PRR, MP, SP, RP, CL, MCL and all the other bullshit we made up whilst drunk means. Love, People who don't know how to fix their own mistakes cleanly
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Gringo Abbot Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 881 Location: Prague, Europe Joined: Nov 22^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: Champions Reply #172 - Dec 20^th, 2014 at 9:21am	Print Post
	coyle cant die now - at least in hold for reinforcements imho


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Revaulting Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Posts: 10143 Location: Not in my pants Joined: Apr 3^rd, 2014 Gender:	Re: Champions Reply #173 - Dec 20^th, 2014 at 6:21pm	Print Post
	As far as I'm concerned, the champions event closed early, with the nerf. And without the easy dupe, I've got no reason to collect seals/shards. That gear is garbage. No earthly way I'm gonna grind that much just to get 1 or 2 thirds of an upgrade. I'm fuckin' bored. Maybe I'll play again when Turbine rebreaks another feature.

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ILoveExploits Horoluth Raider Offline I Love Exploits! Posts: 2157 Location: piking @ work Joined: Oct 31^st, 2013 Gender:	Re: Champions Reply #174 - Dec 20^th, 2014 at 6:50pm	Print Post
	You can dupe augs still. i don't know who really needs it but....

	Dear players, The D&D rules you were familiar with were too simple to understand, so we're continuing our move away from them to needlessly confusing subsystems that will make your play experience less fun and invalidate old builds and loot. We hope you have fun working out what the fuck MRR, PRR, MP, SP, RP, CL, MCL and all the other bullshit we made up whilst drunk means. Love, People who don't know how to fix their own mistakes cleanly
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