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No-Brainer DPS Paladin (Read 96598 times)
Teh_Troll
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Re: No-Brainer DPS Paladin
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5 Foot Step wrote
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Pure pally, full THF, full SM, Vanguard capstone. I played it, it sucked. Granted, SM was bugged out at the time and not granting double strike, but I can't see that making enough difference. I'm used to playing top tier DPS. Maybe it looks good if you're used to average DPS, but my character screen currently has SWF wolf, TWF Barb, THF Pally, Combat Brute Rogue...and this sword and board crap didn't come anywhere near the DPS numbers of any of those builds.
I admit that it looks good on paper. That's why I tried it out after all. Maybe it's because shield bash is capped to 1 per second. Maybe it's because there is no TF shield. Maybe it's because it doesn't get 100 light damage on every hit and every glance. Maybe it's because it doesn't qualify for Balanced Attacks. Maybe it's because it doesn't get +160% damage vs helpless. Maybe it's because it doesn't do an entire screen's width of bane damage swinging a freaking Club of the Holy Flame.
No, it's all of those things.
Then you must be doing it wrong, because that is pretty obvious max dps paladin build when spending 41 of your points into vanguard, 38 into kotc and 1 ap into pdk/human.
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Re: No-Brainer DPS Paladin
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Re: No-Brainer DPS Paladin
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5 Foot Step wrote
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Not Trolling, but experience. This build you claim to be no brainer dps has only half the dps of the build i mentioned.
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Re: No-Brainer DPS Paladin
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WeHaveLived wrote
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78 is a perfectly viable fort DC. That'll work in EE Orchard and Stormhorns.
You and I have different definitions of the word "viable."
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Re: No-Brainer DPS Paladin
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Bigjunk wrote
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You and I have different definitions of the word "viable."
I had a freezing bard about a month ago before I TRed it. With a 78 freezing ice DC I could freeze anything that wasn't rednamed. Death knights in EE Vol, orcs and giants in EE Horns, etc. Did it work absolutely, positively, 100% of the time? No, but saving on a 2 isn't that different from saving on a 1.
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Re: No-Brainer DPS Paladin
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idk. I had for a time did exclusively druid monks. before and after the qp boost then the nerf. stun dcs and qp were high 80s to low 90s and storm horns shit still saved when we would full group.
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I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Re: No-Brainer DPS Paladin
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I've found that my pally (15p/5rgr) is now my "its been a hard day and I just want an easy afternoon" toon - much like a 18/2 or pure WF FvS back in the day.
Does S&B really add significantly more defense & DPS? I mean, compared to equivalently equiped twf/thf?
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Hey check this out! it's my build
Check out my build!
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Re: No-Brainer DPS Paladin
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basic and works well.. i like it
I have too many toons
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Re: No-Brainer DPS Paladin
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Updated the OP.
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Re: No-Brainer DPS Paladin
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In the OP build you take 2nd core of defender tree. Is the 10 PRR/MRR worth not ever being raged? (not rhetorical question)
Also, why wep focus over cleaves?
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Once you meat your personal goal you might want to give that some consideration.
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Good grief Meat, you're hopeless. You would label the simple act of taking a shit as someone obeying the divine law of nature to leave a proof of existence.
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Re: No-Brainer DPS Paladin
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Meat-Head wrote
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10 PRR/MRR worth not ever being raged?
combined 25 prr with stance on beats rage for a pally. also 3 to saves.
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Re: No-Brainer DPS Paladin
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Ok. Still don't understand wep focus feats. Is it pre-req for something I don't know?
+1 to hit is all?
What am I missing?
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Once you meat your personal goal you might want to give that some consideration.
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Good grief Meat, you're hopeless. You would label the simple act of taking a shit as someone obeying the divine law of nature to leave a proof of existence.
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Re: No-Brainer DPS Paladin
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Meat-Head wrote
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Ok. Still don't understand wep focus feats. Is it pre-req for something I don't know?
+1 to hit is all?
What am I missing?
Each Weapon Focus feat gives you +2 Melee Power.
Stand on hills of long-forgotten yesterdays...
Looking for a sign that the Universal Mind has written you into the Passion Play.
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Re: No-Brainer DPS Paladin
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Arkat wrote
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Each Weapon Focus feat gives you +2 Melee Power.
Got it. This must be new? wiki doesn't have that under the feat info.
EDIT: Wasn't in the section on melee power in wiki either.
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Once you meat your personal goal you might want to give that some consideration.
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Good grief Meat, you're hopeless. You would label the simple act of taking a shit as someone obeying the divine law of nature to leave a proof of existence.
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Re: No-Brainer DPS Paladin
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Meat-Head wrote
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Got it. This must be new? wiki doesn't have that under the feat info.
EDIT: Wasn't in the section on melee power in wiki either.
Just hit live less than a month ago. You can see it in the U25 release notes.
Also note that you can drop stance to get buffed with the only rage you really need to worry about bothering with. (Primal Scream)
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Re: No-Brainer DPS Paladin
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Meat-Head wrote
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Also, why wep focus over cleaves?
Cleaves are available in the KotC tree. You still probably want to take cleave as a feat long enough to take Momentum Swing in the Dreadnought ED. After it's set you can swap out the cleave feat as long as you don't reset points in LD.
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Re: No-Brainer DPS Paladin
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5 Foot Step wrote
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After it's set you can swap out the cleave feat as long as you don't reset points in LD.
if i swap out the feat at fred. isnt there an auto effect that resets all my ED who need cleave? or is that changed?
so i can just change feats?
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Are weapon focus feats really worth taking ? Palis and barbs are already feat starved, so i am not sure about this
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Are weapon focus feats really worth taking ? Palis and barbs are already feat starved, so i am not sure about this
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Play the game, tard.
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Play the game, tard.
Stop stalking faggot, and leave me alone already before i destroy you.
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Stop stalking faggot, and leave me alone already before i destroy you.
That's cute isn't it?
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That's cute isn't it?
Yep, your mother is cute. Bye.
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Yep, your mother is cute. Bye.
Saying goodbye so soon? That's a shame! We have so much to talk about. But I won't be spamming this thread anymore, don't worry, boy.
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Re: No-Brainer DPS Paladin
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Paladin query from me: without being too specific, is anyone else seeing Good Things from Div Sac? Just I noticed some consistent things today during a Pally test build and wondered if there was a legit reason / dumb luck or if I was seeing some not-widely-known extra.
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