Tested monk version today. My toon only managed 33-35 seconds. Then again my toon isn't optimally geared or full of dps past lives.

human 11d/6m/3ra.


1 : Weapon Focus: Bludgeoning OR PA
1 Human  : Weapon Focus: Slashing OR w/e
1 Ranger : Favored Enemy: Undead
2 Monk   : Single Weapon Fighting
3 Druid   : Sneak of Shadows
4 R
5 D  : Wild Shape 1: Wolf
6 R   : Weapon Focus: Piercing OR Stunning Blow OR w/e
7 D
8 D
9  : Improved Single Weapon Fighting
9 Monk   : Precision
10 Monk   : Path of Harmonious Balance
11 Druid  : Wild Shape 1: Bear
12 M    : Improved Critical: Bludgeoning
13 M
14 D
15      : Greater Single Weapon Fighting
15 Monk   : Dodge OR Improved Trip OR w/e
16 D
17 Druid  : Wild Shape 2: Winter Wolf
18 D      : Master of Forms
19 D/R
20  Druid/R
21 Epic   : Improved Two Weapon Fighting
24 Epic   : Greater Two Weapon Fighting
26 Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
27 Epic   : Natural Fighting
28 Destiny: First Blood OR Elusive Target
29 Destiny: Dire Charge OR Harbinger of Chaos
30 Epic   : Natural Fighting
30 Legend : Scion of Ethereal

AP PART 1 : https://imgur.com/a/DtbO6
AP PART 2 : https://imgur.com/a/PjQ7w

Twists :
Symmetric Strikes
A Dance of Flowers
Hail of Blows
Primal Scream

Str score tested : 76
96 doublestrike in Master Wind stance.

33-35 second red named kill times.
https://imgur.com/a/1bHY1


If you have Aasimar Scourge + racial AP for it. Doublestrike lives, enchant weapon lives, monk and rogue lives. And a bit better gearing with mythic and reaper bonuses. Throw in top tier new sentient dagger with set bonus.  The build will break 20 seconds easily. With past lives included the swap outs are Natural Fighting feats for Grandmaster Stance and OC, while fighting in fire stance instead of wind stance. Would put the build around mid 90's dstrike value, but it gains the grandmaster stance dice for the dps rotation, and oc x2 from the feat and fire stance oc.

Eth's build has 10% more MP, but loses frostbite, winterwolf dice and the winterwolf crit multiplier. It's not much when considering the 10mp covers that nicely enough. Few seconds behind at worst. Eth's version gains abundant step, an extra 10% movement speed, improved evasion, and never fails a reflex save from epic reflexes feat. To me that is more valuable than an extra few seconds on a dps race.

I will test the fighter version later to see where I can get it on my toon and compare it to the monk version. It will never be faster, but I will be able to see roughly how far it is.

Couple of lives ago, I tested everything I could think of to try and get dex-to-hit/dmg on a wolf.  Didn't have any luck.

Sonilasfx wrote on Nov 18^th, 2017 at 10:26pm:

yeah, 9/9/2 is good. frostbite spell is only like 1 second loss on kobold race. not much at all.

i still dont know why anyone would roll any other version but eth's. the dps is only a few seconds behind the Kobold Racer X build. but it gains so much more that adds to actual gameplay. does it really matter if you can down the kobold in 18 seconds instead of 21? no, not really, right? i mean, even if talking about the fighter versions, let's say 25 seconds, at worst? not much of a difference in actual gameplay at all. it isn't noticable vs trash. if anything the fighter version beats the others vs trash because it uses more of its dps than the monk versions. the reason the monks pull ahead slightly is because you get rewarded for working harder on spamming a ki attack dps rotation that only accounts for a handful of seconds across a prolonged beatdown. the kensei only has 3 attacks it needs to keep up.

Wolfenstein v2.1


Race: Scourge
Alignment: Neutral
Class: 10 Druid/6 Ranger/4 Fighter
RDDDDDDDDDRRRRRFFFFD


Stats:..........Level 1 (36 pt build)

Strength............18 (+ level ups)
Dexterity...........13
Constitution.......17
Intelligence........10
Wisdom.............10
Charisma............8


Feat Progression:
RDDDDDDDDDRRRRRFFFFD
Level 1   : Single Weapon Fighting, Power Attack
Level 3   : Cleave
Level 6   : Completionist
Level 9   : Improved Single Weapon Fighting
Level 11 : Two Weapon Fighting(B)
Level 12 : Improved Critical: Blunt
Level 15 : Natural Fighting
Level 15 : Improved Two Weapon Fighting (B)
Level 16 : Greater Single Weapon Fighting
Level 17 : Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Level 18 : Natural Fighting #2
Level 19 : Dodge
Level 21 : Overwhelming Critical
Level 24 : Natural Fighting #3
Level 26 : Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
Level 27 : Mobility
Level 28 : Evasive Target
Level 29 : Dire Charge
Level 30 : Sneak of Shadows
Level 30 : Scion of Ethereal
(If not completionist, take WF at 6)

Epic Destiny: Legendary Dreadnought

Extra AB 3/3
Legendary Tactics 3/3
Str +1

Improved PA
AB Damage 3/3
Str +1

Critical Damage 3/3

Advancing Blows
Devastating Crit

Master's Blitz

Twists: 4/3/2/1/1

Sense Weakness
Balanced Attacks
Hail of Blows
Rejuvenation Cocoon
Primal Scream


Enhancements:

Vistani: 41 AP

Kensei: 22 AP
Core 1/6
Extra AB 2/3 (4 AP)
Tactics 3/3 (6 AP)
Improved Dodge 3/3
Athletic Mastery 3/3
Opportunity Attack (2 AP)

Tempest: 4 pts
Core 1/6
Improved Defense 3/3

Stalwart: 13 pts
Core 2/6
Durable Defense 3/3
Defensive Mastery 3/3
Resilient Defense 2/3
Tenacious Defense 3/3

Racial: 12 pts
Core 3/5 (Wis)
Improved Recovery 2/3 (4 AP)
Scourge Weapons 2/3
Divine Purpose
Divine Resolve 1/3

Rubbinns wrote on Nov 20^th, 2017 at 11:31am:


Please explain what you're saying here?

ZooperDooper wrote on Nov 20^th, 2017 at 12:33pm:

Doublestrike is hard-capped at 100%.   It would be a waste of 3 feats to take Natural Fighting 3 times if you can already cap it without those.

Personally, I might take them anyway and run in Water Stance for the extra dodge cap and to maybe free up a twist slot.

5 Foot Step wrote on Nov 20^th, 2017 at 1:59pm:

Hmm. I think making gearing easier is always an avenue to explore. Could probably go that route and then try to tetris in a 5pc ender set. you know, in case you wanted to spend the next 6 hours on a spreadsheet. 

so doubleshot wraps but doublestrike does not?

does deadly striker ninja spy t5 work with daggers?

5 Foot Step wrote on Nov 20^th, 2017 at 11:09am:


I think that improved defense dont work.
i tested... not add PRR or MRR or AC.
i dont know if deflect arrows working with 2s.

Rubbins,  running your build from above 11 druid, 6 monk, 3 ranger. At level 10 right now.

Omg the single target dps is the best I've ever run. Running with warlocks and just crushing kill count. Ran a wolf a long time ago but this is next level.

Pretty squishy right now but hope that works out once I get tier 5 vistani and the defense boost.

i thought this got nerfed, is the only change that dod dont work no more? can someone condense all the post u37 info into one post below plzkthx