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May 28th, 2015 at 4:24am
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One of my completionists still needs a bladeforged life. 18 warlock/2 pally blast spammer should be viable enough.

The other one has iconics already tripled. I'm thinking melee, probably 3+ bard dip.
  

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Reply #1 - May 29th, 2015 at 8:02pm
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blast speed is a joke. only possible redemption this may have is shiradi (not using blasts) with 20% crit damage. Maybe some melee build with aura? IDK, seems shitty atm.
  

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Reply #2 - May 29th, 2015 at 8:34pm
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Rubbinns wrote on May 29th, 2015 at 8:02pm:
blast speed is a joke.


I always expected it would be, thus I was so concerned about abilities interacting with the aura.
  

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Rubbinns wrote on May 29th, 2015 at 8:02pm:
blast speed is a joke. only possible redemption this may have is shiradi (not using blasts) with 20% crit damage. 


Did anyone check if Just Reward generates SP on a critical fire blast?\

Rubbinns wrote on May 29th, 2015 at 8:02pm:
Maybe some melee build with aura? IDK, seems shitty atm.


12 warlock/6 ranger/2 druid?
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5 Foot Step wrote on May 30th, 2015 at 3:24am:
Did anyone check if Just Reward generates SP on a critical fire blast?\

I did not. I rolled a 12/6wiz/2fvs with acid pact. toggled chain blast on and compared it to spamming SLA MM, SLA CM, Spell MM, Spell CM. Stopped toying around with blast rather quickly after.
  

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Reply #5 - May 30th, 2015 at 6:20am
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Rubbinns wrote on May 30th, 2015 at 5:39am:
I did not. I rolled a 12/6wiz/2fvs with acid pact. toggled chain blast on and compared it to spamming SLA MM, SLA CM, Spell MM, Spell CM. Stopped toying around with blast rather quickly after.


Did you try aa plife and magister evoc cd twist with blasts?
  
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Lelouch wrote on May 30th, 2015 at 6:20am:
Did you try aa plife and magister evoc cd twist with blasts?

I didnt bother epic tring for arcane alacrity. Neither the spell cooldown twist. It was first life toon at lv 28. The blast is so slow that it cant properly be used with MM spam. It gives a charging animation every time you use it again after using anything else.

The spell critical damage is going to be good on hellball and ruin. energy bursts too if you can get dc high enough to not get evaded(which btw feels like every mob seems to have now).


5 Foot Step wrote on May 30th, 2015 at 3:24am:
12 warlock/6 ranger/2 druid?

blasts in animal form? didnt even think to try. will get around to today.
  

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Rubbinns wrote on May 30th, 2015 at 6:37am:
blasts in animal form? didnt even think to try. will get around to today.


No, I meant melee wolf.

Dance of Death, SWF, TWF, w/ Aura.

But yeah, that would probably be OP awesome if we could blast bite.
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Ima pop on later tonight for some testing, will try out the wolf auraness

https://transfers.ddo.com/en/character-transfers super fucking slow for anyone else?

Can load every page on DDO site, just not transfers..
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Reply #9 - May 30th, 2015 at 7:24pm
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5 Foot Step wrote on May 30th, 2015 at 7:17am:
But yeah, that would probably be OP awesome if we could blast bite.


Could maybe make bear less un-viable?
  

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Vendui wrote on May 30th, 2015 at 7:23pm:
Ima pop on later tonight for some testing, will try out the wolf auraness

https://transfers.ddo.com/en/character-transfers super fucking slow for anyone else?

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Reply #11 - May 31st, 2015 at 4:13am
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Rubbinns wrote on May 29th, 2015 at 8:02pm:
blast speed is a joke. only possible redemption this may have is shiradi (not using blasts) with 20% crit damage. Maybe some melee build with aura? IDK, seems shitty atm.


Blast will be more DPS than missile spam in shiradi, because it has much higher base damage and attack rate (compared to casting speed at least).  Yes, the lack of homing and slow blast velocity really sucks in groups when other people have aggro.  If you solo a lot, you probably won't notice because all the mobs are coming at you, and mobs have zero strafing or dodge AI. 

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5 Foot Step wrote on May 30th, 2015 at 3:24am:
Did anyone check if Just Reward generates SP on a critical fire blast?\


It doesn't, just like lantern ring doesn't.  The pact acts like an additional proc.  Interestingly, the aura does generate empyrean magic and therefore probably just rewards. 

But a FvS splash isn't really worth it, since you're losing out on base damage, and it doesn't cost SP anyway.
  
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attack rate

How? Spamming missiles gets you more procs, faster procs, and 4 different missile spells are faster even on a wizard. 3 EBS vs. 5 MM, 5 CM, 5 SLA MM, 5 SLA CM. Takes about the same time to cast all 4 as it does to cast and hit with 3 EBS.
  

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Rubbinns wrote on May 31st, 2015 at 7:16am:
How? Spamming missiles gets you more procs, faster procs, and 4 different missile spells are faster even on a wizard. 3 EBS vs. 5 MM, 5 CM, 5 SLA MM, 5 SLA CM. Takes about the same time to cast all 4 as it does to cast and hit with 3 EBS.

Chain shape?
  

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Arkat wrote on May 31st, 2015 at 8:51am:
Chain shape?

tried that, still isnt more or faster than spamming mm, sla mm, chain missiles, and sla chain.
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Rubbinns wrote on May 31st, 2015 at 7:16am:
How? Spamming missiles gets you more procs, faster procs, and 4 different missile spells are faster even on a wizard. 3 EBS vs. 5 MM, 5 CM, 5 SLA MM, 5 SLA CM. Takes about the same time to cast all 4 as it does to cast and hit with 3 EBS.

Really?  Guess I'll need to figure out attack rate.  My impression was that it was faster than casting.
  
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Rubbinns wrote on May 31st, 2015 at 10:43am:
tried that, still isnt more or faster than spamming mm, sla mm, chain missiles, and sla chain.

Yeah, but no spell points used.
  

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AtomicMew wrote on May 31st, 2015 at 12:56pm:
Really?  Guess I'll need to figure out attack rate.  My impression was that it was faster than casting.

I wanted to test that out initially and rolled your suggested 12loc/6wiz/2fvs. Didnt have abishai 3 pc. but that wasnt needed for speed comparisons. The 4 missile spells chained faster than 3 blasts. I hadnt tested all of the blasts yet, however. Only used chain blast.


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Yeah, but no spell points used.

true, and there are a few instances where having free spells would be huge, like raids. but just rewards from fvs splash gives a ridiculous amounts of sp anyway. And I dont think I would trade all the pros of MM spamming for blasts. not currently from what i tested at least. I'm sure the better builders and players than I out there will make something good eventually.
  

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would just like to point out.. if enervating shadows remains as is.. 20 warlock ftw on non-rednameds.. was doing between 3 and 10 neg levels a second due to the chaining effect.. (currently 100% chance for neg levels, not 10%)
  
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would just like to point out.. if enervating shadows remains as is.. 20 warlock ftw on non-rednameds.. was doing between 3 and 10 neg levels a second due to the chaining effect.. (currently 100% chance for neg levels, not 10%)

Chaining effect? Can't have 2 Shapes active at the same time so Chain turns off when you turn on Enervating Shadows.
  

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Chaining effect? Can't have 2 Shapes active at the same time so Chain turns off when you turn on Enervating Shadows.

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Vendui wrote on May 31st, 2015 at 5:24pm:
would just like to point out.. if enervating shadows remains as is.. 20 warlock ftw on non-rednameds.. was doing between 3 and 10 neg levels a second due to the chaining effect.. (currently 100% chance for neg levels, not 10%)

that will be fixed sometime. forums already pointed that out the day it hit lama.
  

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Reply #24 - May 31st, 2015 at 8:45pm
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AtomicMew wrote on May 31st, 2015 at 4:13am:
and mobs have zero strafing or dodge AI.

Not true. The AI just has a toggle. Mob strafing is a perfect defense against auto-target.
  

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