palmer01 wrote on Jul 7^th, 2015 at 8:39pm:

go get yourself a damn ticket already

palmer01 wrote on Jul 7^th, 2015 at 8:39pm:


Hurry up and win then.
I suggest we plan a grand entrance involving a tactical door opener, balaclavas & body armour and wearing full Vault paraphernalia.

With the opening line being "Hello fellas, we're back....."

Ah daydreams...   

DropBear wrote on Jul 7^th, 2015 at 9:36pm:


~guffaw~

Oh I do say! you are a droll fellow,

I was told today that the Turbine was definitely looking outside the company and that the natives were restless as well.

It is hard to credit that anyone within the company would want the position, but I suppose sometimes it's just nice to be asked at least.

mystafyi wrote on Jul 7^th, 2015 at 7:37pm:



I can't believe you burned that account for such a small jab man. You should really hop onto the mains and go crazy tonight, make full use of your remaining hours to wreak havoc.

palmer01 wrote on Jul 7^th, 2015 at 8:39pm:


Instead of firing them you could just chuck a vending machine in a pit with a 9 foot ladder, they climb down, they pay you for food, they get stuck at bottom of hole due to ladder bug.

Having the hole at 9 foot deep ensures future hilarity at watching them try to jump and lift themselves out.

Please nobody insult my idea by suggesting that at only 9 foot they could utilise some team work to get out....

gumba wrote on Jul 7^th, 2015 at 11:24pm:


Outside the company can be good, but it depends on how much autonomy and resources they're provided.

I have to say I am surprised though.
Sev_Pay must have seriously screwed up to get punted at this stage.

Given his role taking AC into maintenance, he had the experience to take DDO into maintenance mode too.  Revenues must have really dropped?

Maybe he's being moved sideways into a technical/project role - eg. the server farm migration to a new data centre?

DropBear wrote on Jul 8^th, 2015 at 12:02am:



All I would say is that a producer needs a certain level of people skills to be effective, even the producer of a MMORPG, surprising as that might be to some of us.

gumba wrote on Jul 7^th, 2015 at 8:25am:


That's baffling to me. I've been saying for years that smaller, more frequent updates are the way to go. It keeps the players more engaged, and from a development perspective it's much easier to maintain quality. Don't get me wrong, it's not that I don't believe you. I just wish I could understand why?

Moshpitato wrote on Jul 8^th, 2015 at 2:47am:

Probably because we get the smaller bit but not the more frequent bit. Need the whole pie.

Turd_Ferguson wrote on Jul 8^th, 2015 at 1:05am:

As much as I hate the motherboards mostly because of Jerry and Jerry's Kids, I do wonder if a decent manager couldn't turn him around. He doesn't strike me as evil so much as clueless easily swayed. Maybe the phrase I want is Weak Minded Fool. If somebody competent gave him some sane guidance and periodic oversight, he might become a decent employee. He's a huge problem, but I don't think he's the root problem.

The same would have gone for FeattherOfSun - He was cut loose without guidance and out of frustration did his own thing and horrible damage to the game, but he had enthusiasm, was hard working, and he really cared. He took it hard when his efforts were panned. If a decent manager could have guided that in a positive direction, it could have done a lot of good for the game instead of all the damage it did.

Almost nobody is naturally great at their job, some can become great on their own, but most need a mentor and some time. I doubt Jerry has any mentoring by a competent person, he's been dominated by the likes of Urlock and influenced by Geoff. Real leadership at Turdbin could work wonders.

Moshpitato wrote on Jul 8^th, 2015 at 2:47am:

I agree, maybe because it was obvious to the players that it was split because they tried for one, couldn't make it, and had to break it up - they didn't want their dirty laundry aired in public? More important to save face than to produce quality product is practically a Turbine by-line.

notajedi wrote on Jul 8^th, 2015 at 6:52am:

Yes, but skills can be taught, and it's much harder to impart "hard working" and "takes pride in what he builds". I don't want to sound like a manipulative shit, but when you have an employee who wants to have his work well received and is willing to work hard to get there, you have tremendous leverage over him. Work with him and you both win.

I've had many employees over the years who came to my group with poor skills but good drive. They don't always work out, but in the long run they've done much better for us than the skilled but complacent ones. I don't know Feather or Jerry, maybe both are lost causes, I'm just saying I wouldn't fault a new leader just because he didn't fire Jerry right out of the gate.