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Re: Need Help Gearing 12fvs/6wiz/2pal Shiradi
Reply #25 - Jul 24th, 2015 at 4:12pm
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Yeah it's a real shame. I converted my last arcane to a Shiradi and it works, but he's never logged in now. No interest in it.
  
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Reply #26 - Jul 31st, 2015 at 2:08pm
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done with getting the new raid necklace and gloves.

I dont really want to slot the mod ring over 10 con. I lose 4 to all saves from having 8 aug over 12 item, slots for repair aug, balance aug, prot aug, nat armor aug, loss of 3 to int from +11 item (down to 8 aug), and no 11 wisdom item(sp gain).

If i get rid of abishai set I lose 1 missle, but I gain 35 more hp, con-op, parrying item for 4 to saves, and all of the above. Dont think it's worth to slot abishai on this build. I'll mess around and see how much more effective my dps is now. But I lost a lot to saves, hp, ac, int, skills, and sp.   
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Mockduck wrote on Aug 30th, 2010 at 2:20pm:
I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Reply #27 - Jul 31st, 2015 at 10:27pm
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Abishai set is a trap.
  

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Reply #28 - Jul 31st, 2015 at 10:32pm
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5 Foot Step wrote on Jul 31st, 2015 at 10:27pm:
Abishai set is a trap.

that is what I keep thinking. Although my sp consumption has gone down since I gained the 5 caster levels from the gear set up.

I Will have to grind MoD to get that ring and swap it out with my current 10 con/10 dodge. I lose 8 hps, 2 dodge but gain 5 mrr/prr, 4 to saves, and 2 slots.

saves go up to 78/71/78, hp goes down to 995, prr mrr up to 111/69
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I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Re: Need Help Gearing 12fvs/6wiz/2pal Shiradi
Reply #29 - Sep 8th, 2015 at 7:46am
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Updated gear set.


3pc abishai: boots, helm, cloak.
Bracers: Dissolution // or Epic Inferno Bracers depending on fire burst or acid burst twist.
Neck: Resonation
Gloves: Gauntlets of the Arcane Soldier
Goggles: Cannoneer's
Belt: Chord
Trinket: Epic Litany
Armor: Shadowscale 30/dr
Ring: Lantern Ring
Ring: Circle of Malevolence
Weapon: TF Impulse and lore.
Weapon: TF 100 potency/17 spell lore/purple slot.
  

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I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Re: Need Help Gearing 12fvs/6wiz/2pal Shiradi
Reply #30 - Sep 8th, 2015 at 12:25pm
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Rubbinns wrote on Sep 8th, 2015 at 7:46am:
Updated gear set.


3pc abishai: boots, helm, cloak.
Bracers: Dissolution // or Epic Inferno Bracers depending on fire burst or acid burst twist.
Neck: Resonation
Gloves: Gauntlets of the Arcane Soldier
Goggles: Cannoneer's
Belt: Chord
Trinket: Epic Litany
Armor: Shadowscale 30/dr
Ring: Lantern Ring
Ring: Circle of Malevolence
Weapon: TF Impulse and lore.
Weapon: TF 100 potency/17 spell lore/purple slot.


Looks solid except 1 thing maybe, wouldn't libram/golden skull and embers be better than 2ed TF and resonation?

Seeing that resonation makes me wonder if on an air savant (with 4th core) it would proc vulnerability. Would be a big boost in shiradi where you'd use force spells and not elemental spells.
  
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Reply #31 - Sep 8th, 2015 at 2:35pm
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SayWhatAgain wrote on Sep 8th, 2015 at 12:25pm:
Looks solid except 1 thing maybe, wouldn't libram/golden skull and embers be better than 2ed TF and resonation?

Not sure, but I do know Resonation scales with sonic spell power and sonic crit chance. Libram adds 1% crit, 10 potency, 2 more int. Orb of death gives me 2 universal and 5% crits.
  

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Reply #32 - Sep 8th, 2015 at 4:41pm
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Rubbinns wrote on Sep 8th, 2015 at 2:35pm:
Not sure, but I do know Resonation scales with sonic spell power and sonic crit chance. Libram adds 1% crit, 10 potency, 2 more int. Orb of death gives me 2 universal and 5% crits.


In that case Resonation works differently than the lantern ring (which afaik does not scale with sp and cannot crit). Is it different as well in respect of hitting more than one mob per cast?

Thinking AoE here mostly, added crit chance gives substantially more than a 4d6 base damage on one target IMO.
  
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Re: Need Help Gearing 12fvs/6wiz/2pal Shiradi
Reply #33 - Sep 8th, 2015 at 8:36pm
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SayWhatAgain wrote on Sep 8th, 2015 at 4:41pm:
works differently than the lantern ring (which afaik does not scale with sp and cannot crit).

Tested this few weeks ago. It also scales and crits giving higher numbers instead of just 6-24. SayWhatAgain wrote on Sep 8th, 2015 at 4:41pm:
Is it different as well in respect of hitting more than one mob per cast?

I havent checked if it procs of every missile, or if it hits everything on aoe like hellball, or energy burst. Seems like too much work for me. fuk turbine.

  

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Re: Need Help Gearing 12fvs/6wiz/2pal Shiradi
Reply #34 - Sep 8th, 2015 at 9:43pm
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some really wierd shit is going on. par for course from turbine.


If you look closely you can see evil damage proc for 3k. that was not from a miss chance, but i suspected it was from shadow armor guard. No idea where else it would come from as I made sure I was in LD destiny. Another proc came from abishai cloak giving -12 str. So I then took off litany, armor, cloak and boots. Tried nimbus again.




im retarded, it's colors proc. so i turned off colors and stepped in again using nimubs/



neg damage proc'd it is coming from shadow armor even if the mob isnt close to you. as long as they attempt some type of attack, i guess?
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Reply #35 - Sep 8th, 2015 at 10:18pm
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anyway. Here is the screenie of supremacy proc scaling necklace and ring. this is the most interesting to me because it should scale with warlock crit multiplier. Been a while since I played the 12lock 6/2 split. Will tr again sometime soon to test and run in another build.

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Reply #36 - Sep 8th, 2015 at 10:19pm
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COTQ?
  
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Reply #37 - Sep 8th, 2015 at 10:22pm
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WeHaveLived wrote on Sep 8th, 2015 at 10:19pm:
COTQ?

yes, but i turned it off in the last 2 screen shots. the one before last with the neg dmg has colors turned off but armor equipped( all on hotbar)

The last pic has all 3 items that proc unequipped-litany, armor, boots. And i did not see another random proc.
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Reply #38 - Sep 8th, 2015 at 11:50pm
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Alcohol has muddied my brain. If you had it on for the first one, I'd say it's pretty likely it's a proc. If you didn't, well, I don't know what to say, other than that I wish my TF armor would proc for 3k.
  
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Reply #39 - Sep 9th, 2015 at 1:05am
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WeHaveLived wrote on Sep 8th, 2015 at 11:50pm:
Alcohol has muddied my brain. If you had it on for the first one, I'd say it's pretty likely it's a proc. If you didn't, well, I don't know what to say, other than that I wish my TF armor would proc for 3k.

The first screenshot had armor on and colors on. im sure it was colors.

the 3rd screenshot has colors off and armor on giving low neg dmg . odd thing is the mob doesnt have to be close enough to actually be in hit range as long as they swung while they have you targeted.
  

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Reply #40 - Sep 9th, 2015 at 6:43am
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Ok, what I'm saying is that your evil damage was a Colors proc, and the negative damage from your armor is par for the course. Maybe there's something I'm missing...
  
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Reply #41 - Sep 9th, 2015 at 6:57am
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WeHaveLived wrote on Sep 9th, 2015 at 6:43am:
Ok, what I'm saying is that your evil damage was a Colors proc, and the negative damage from your armor is par for the course. Maybe there's something I'm missing...

No, that's what I posted. At first i thought it was something buggy. Then I figured I left colors on during testing the ring/necklace scaling. But then i started seeing guard procs go off when not even in melee range of the giants. I never knew guard procs were so strange. Figured they would have to be in melee range, but it's not like mobs swing from far anyway. The giants were swinging because I was running by and triggered their melee range detection which still gave me the guard procs even after I had ran well out of their range of attack.

TL:DR ; Resonation and Lantern scale. Guard procs do not need to be in actual melee range when the trigger goes off.
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I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Reply #42 - Sep 9th, 2015 at 11:35am
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Think GS procs do have to be in melee range but it's been a while since I wore any and Turbine so...
  
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Reply #43 - Sep 9th, 2015 at 5:23pm
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Ok, cool, I get it now. Have some boobies.

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WeHaveLived wrote on Sep 9th, 2015 at 5:23pm:
Have some boobies.

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Mockduck wrote on Aug 30th, 2010 at 2:20pm:
I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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