And we all must love the red alert he brings with him!!    He makes zerging fun

I didn't sign on last night so no report.

I'll try again tonight.

harharharhar wrote on Jul 31^st, 2015 at 3:35pm:


Up until this post, you said nothing about War/Bladeforged.  In fact, in one of your later posts, you mentioned armor proficiencies, which War/Bladeforged don’t care about, because they have body feats.

Someone else mentioned that Teth was a greatsword aficionado.

Because you failed to mention the whole War/Bladeforged thing, and that people were wondering “Why did he take a level of fighter?”, and that whole greatsword thing, a PDK build seemed like a reasonable explanation.  There are melee warlock builds.  Just because you don’t seem to know how to make one work, doesn’t mean that other people haven’t figured it out.

AtomicMew wrote on Jul 31^st, 2015 at 4:56pm:


Maybe.  I know some people will scream “OHMAHGERD!!!  THF has strength requirements!”  But, we live in a DDO where +7 stat tome bonuses exist.  A couple build points and a creative character leveling scheme can make that less of an issue.  My guildleader did a Bladeforged Paladin/Warlock ESoS build for an iTR/Warlock life that he was pretty pleased with.  His main complaint was that he was stuck with Fey pact.  I was thinking Teth may have found a different way to have fun with a melee warlock.

harharharhar wrote on Jul 31^st, 2015 at 6:53pm:


Others, when talking about Teth’s love of certain things, were suggesting he was a gish build.  Such a build seems no more implausible than a throwing build was when U14 launched.  I was trying to figure out how such a build might work. 

harharharhar wrote on Jul 31^st, 2015 at 6:53pm:


Great, so we can count on you not being a dick about you saying that he was wearing heavy armor?

harharharhar wrote on Jul 30^th, 2015 at 6:02pm:

Then try this on for size:  Don’t be a dick to people because you didn't use accurate game terminology.

Figured Id respond. Note I havent got to play this much since I am very rusty but so far Ive liked it.

12 fvs 7 wiz 1 barb.
I went bf for the -10 slash and building prr but you can go any race or take any class for the last level. I decided to focus on the dps ofc using the temple orb and tf. I also use blue set for the 9 universal crit and the spell power. For healing I use zombie form and arcane supremacied/warlock enhanced death auras (crit in the 400-450's and 80-90 on lesser). I also tried to max dodge and throw in as much prr as I could.

The build can zerg pretty good, but it can be pulled off going 12 warlock 6 wiz 2 barb. Loses some aoe clear dps as the above and relies on burst healing with recon instead of constant healing from undead. Also get sprint boost for awesome zerging.

Rubbinns wrote on Jul 31^st, 2015 at 10:29pm:


The fvs split is def more sp efficient. Im a little confused as to why you use the 3 pc set on the 12 fvs split unless you are trying to save 6 aps and not take the +3 caster levels. Chain missles gives the full 10 missles regardless of caster lvl.

Now the warlock split in my opinion does much more damage than the fvs split. But they both have their benefits. The fvs is longevity and the warlock is clear speed. For me I zerg pretty hard so longevity seems kind of pointless, but Im sure the new raid the fvs split may work better (havent tried yet).

Rubbinns wrote on Jul 31^st, 2015 at 10:40pm:


Ahh gotcha. I always seem to bounce my chain missles when few mobs are left hence why I never went for abishai set. My fault then. I could see the reason for it, but the amount of chain missles needed to be used in a quest to justify the set I think would be alot.

Rubbinns wrote on Jul 31^st, 2015 at 10:50pm:


You don't carry around a 100 stack of ciders and mnemonics?

i was wrong, it was a barb level

just an update. so before all this additional info and Teth coming on - I went and rolled up a wf warlock currently at level 12.

First and foremost, I am not a "master builder", I simply play chars based upon what I like, what I "think" they need and my playstyle. That being said he is atm, 6/5/1 Loc/wiz/bard. He will end up being a 14/5/1

I played a ranger for many years so standing in edlrich blast stance rather then aura will be my main playstyle.

I am using Enlightened Spirit branch with some tainted scholar, eldritch knight, warforged and warchanter. all my skills are set in UMD/repair/perform/spellcraft. I went adamantine for one of my feats so that explains the eldritch night. WF is for inscribe armor, prr, con and fortification, tainted is just for upping my edlrich blast and warchanter is for con, upping my prr and to be able to use fascinate.

So far, with my ranger skillset and maneuverability and his current damage output, he pretty much mows through everything. Three main power increases I use im my weapons are impulse/kinetic/repair/reconstruct. I need to squeeze in potency and radiance.

I also did evocation and greater evocation as part of my feats. I read somewhere that Int can play a bigger roll then just cha, so I invested into that more then dex & str.

Con and cha of course are my main stats. I don't really melee if at all with this toon. I know you can go that route, but I was trying to mix it up.

Again, so far hes fun.

go ahead and rip me apart now. lol

Teth wrote on Jul 31^st, 2015 at 10:20pm:


Was wondering if you could maybe go into a little more detail on how the build works, at least as far as the warlock version. You said for warlock it's 6 wiz/2 barb compared to 7wiz/1 barb for the fvs version. What does the 2nd barb give you special compared to the fvs only needing 1? Uncanny dodge?

I'm assuming the core idea is using wizard for the MM SLA, chain missiles and force missiles(assuming you take wiz 7) to proc Shiradi. Warlock version would also be spamming chain blast in between. 6 wiz also gives you vampire form for the healing so you can self heal(no need for reconstruct points wasted on BF).

What I'm most wondering for warlock version is damage type. Normally I run utterdark at all times and get the easy light damage from ES tree along with the huge dps boost you get from using eldritch burst/spirit blast. However it seems in this build you'd have to focus on 3 energy types. Force/light/pact(most likely acid or fire for draconic energy burst). I'm thinking not using utterdark at all and focusing on force would be an option, though in doing that do you not use a lot of the ES tree?

I guess I'm wondering if you are actually maximing 3 different damage types along with universal, or if you cut that to 2 and not worry about ES. I've always used the eldritch AoE blasts so I can't imagine going without them unless you go into the other trees and focus on pact damage and consume/stricken/etc...

I must say the idea of a vampiric warlock focusing on pewpew and crits sounds pretty fun.