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Warlock build help please
Aug 11th, 2015 at 12:32am
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I have been away for over a year.  I am looking for some builds. I'll start with a Warlock.

I have a few toons ... some more old school than others.

I have a 3 past life Wizard necro spec who I think might be a good candidate. I have lots of Mats so I can build stuff I'm going to need to go with what I have.

I think I would like a tank version - heavy armor - sword and orb/big board lvl 20 Warlock. I have searched fairly hard and found jack shit that's helpful. My search fu is weak probably.

If someone can help with race, start stats and feats I can probably figure out the rest. Actually opinions on race and feats, pros and cons,  is all I really need. I don't want to build it and then find out I did it wrong as I don't have much time to play these days.

EE end game ... I don't want to die and want to lead kill count. ( I jest but really that's what all min max's want isn't it?)

If you need to keep your secret ubber cool build secret then PM me and I'l destroy after reading Smiley

Thanks for any advice and help.







  
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Re: Warlock build help please
Reply #1 - Aug 11th, 2015 at 1:08am
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Five Foot Step's Warlock build:

Put your points in Enlightened Spirit and Tainted Scholar and hold down your left mouse button.
  

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Reply #2 - Aug 11th, 2015 at 2:26am
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5 Foot Step wrote on Aug 11th, 2015 at 1:08am:
Five Foot Step's Warlock build:

Put your points in Enlightened Spirit and Tainted Scholar and hold down your left mouse button.


Sadly, that is all there really is to warlock.
  

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I get what your saying that's why I'm only after race, start stats .... feats?? Those are harder to fix if I guess my way through this.

Anyone have an opinion or care to share ?
  
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Reply #4 - Aug 11th, 2015 at 9:05am
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I went multiclass warlock, 14/5/1 loc/wiz/bard warforged. Did adamantine for PRR (as you can reduce arcane failure) and since eldrich blast is evocation, feats into evocation.  I dumped abilities into CHA16/CON16/INT16; therefore picked up insightful reflex and force personality as feats; metamagics = quicken, maximize, empower, extend. Int is for skills for spellcraft, repair, UMD, perform and any remaining into jump.

All you need to up stats in is INT until you desire to bump everything else.

Trees I used, enlightened spirit, tainted scholar, warforged, eldrich wizard, warchanter and I believe spellslinger.

reasons for split: Loc for obvious reasons, wizard to pick up metamagic feats, buffing spells and repair spells. Bard to open up bard tree, fascinate and to open up perform to dump more skill points in.

I run around with a shield and a club. Shield to reduce damage and increase prr and club with kinetic and impulse on it. (edit: Shield doesn't reduce your firing speed)

Areas to increase damage output with eldrich blast/aura: Radiance/kinetic/impulse/potency - other use: recontruct/repair.

two key items: Cannith Crafting Master Artifice ring and the Lantern ring.

I'm having fun with this toon. I don't have all my gear but hes running thorough epic normal and hard (at level) with relative ease. I don't melee and am used to playing range anyway. I will eventually move into EE but need to work on my twitch skills and obtain better gear to maximize his abilities.
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Reply #5 - Aug 11th, 2015 at 10:30am
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Baddog wrote on Aug 11th, 2015 at 6:30am:
I get what your saying that's why I'm only after race, start stats .... feats?? Those are harder to fix if I guess my way through this.

Anyone have an opinion or care to share ?

I've done 3 lives, all human 20 WL with GOO pact.
race- ooman
stats- 18 cha, 16 con, rest int
feats
Echew mats, Maximize
Empower
Past Life Wizard
Spell Focus
Greater Spell Focus
Quicken
Heighten
Epic Eldritch Blast
Epic Arcane Eldritch Blast
Epic Spellpower Light

ES - 42, SE to cone and everything else in TS
  
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Reply #6 - Aug 11th, 2015 at 11:49am
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If you would like to try an aura build, I'm happy with my.. tanky.. con-based warlock. It's the not best build alive, but it certainly can contribute / even pull wayfinder pugs through Amrath EEs.

The "theme" is to use eldritch burst, spirit blast, and various no-save SLAs from Soul Eater while standing in full aura. In heroics I've used full plate and tower shield without proficiency. At level 22 I switched to some +3 con medium armor (terrorweb) and lvl 22 wall of wood (heal amp, less ASF).

Originally I went with dwarf 20 con > 14 int, 14 cha. I ETRed to 20 > 14 > 12 cha, 12 wis. Kinda attempting to have working Will save with shit gear, that's why I went with GOO pact. I am also using the Resilience stance for +4 saves.

Feats are a bit a mess: Maximize, Empower, Quicken for various SLAs, Extend for Tensers / Displace SLA or even Haste. Resilience, Mental Toughness (kinda filler), Toughness + Epic Toughness, the two epic Warlock feats, also eying Bulwark of Defense.

AP split:
41 AP in Enlightened Spirit (T5+Capstone, full aura, light spellpower, cleaves)
8 AP in Tainted Scholar (2 cores, Utterdark Blast)
31 AP in Soul Eater (5 cores, all the various clickies: Consume, Stricken, Dark Feeding (con), Burning Blood, Steal Life Force)

Functions okay in various destinies; quite sturdy in Divine Crusader (also party healer and extended haster)

Twists: Energy Burst, Primal Scream (more con!), Cocoon.

In my previous life I've used a slightly different feat setup (spent 3 feats for shield mastery in order to have epic shield mastery twistable in case I need it).

In early heroic levels aura sucks until you have enough AP for the various offensive SLAs. IIRC I switched to aura around lvl 8. I managed to solo heroic eBB Chronoscope, both ToEE; Sands raid, Terminal Delirium, ToD. Some of these I've never managed to eBB before.

EDIT: I was the warlock mentioned in this thread on mobos: https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/464060
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Reply #7 - Aug 11th, 2015 at 1:08pm
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Yeah ES capstone with gswf in Shiradi.
Can't get easier than that.
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Reply #8 - Aug 11th, 2015 at 2:53pm
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GTWF seems more synergery.  Mortal fear/vunerability TF main hand TOEE set for additional elemental vulnerability.
  
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Tainted Scholar has a chain shape and a chance for confusion on hit. You can chain around a corner if one mob is in your line of sight and it will hit others which will then start fighting each other. If you are soloing it's pretty great, way less useful in a group IMO.

Medium armor ends up being what you want since Enlightened Spirit gets bonuses and no ASF. The exception being the argument for Shadow Guardian on the Thunderforged armor which is only on the heavy armor flavor.
  
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Reply #10 - Aug 11th, 2015 at 10:05pm
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Make warlock, any race, any stats...use otto's stone, use daily dice stone until 20, wait three days, repeat.
  
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gibbon wrote on Aug 11th, 2015 at 9:08pm:
Tainted Scholar has a chain shape and a chance for confusion on hit. You can chain around a corner if one mob is in your line of sight and it will hit others which will then start fighting each other. If you are soloing it's pretty great, way less useful in a group IMO.

Medium armor ends up being what you want since Enlightened Spirit gets bonuses and no ASF. The exception being the argument for Shadow Guardian on the Thunderforged armor which is only on the heavy armor flavor.


Useful thanks ... I can make Thunderforge armor so that makes sense.
  
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TornadoJoe wrote on Aug 11th, 2015 at 10:05pm:
Make warlock, any race, any stats...use otto's stone, use daily dice stone until 20, wait three days, repeat.


Unfortunately I only have a 10k stone. I am doing the TR thing on another toon ... This one I want to play at end game with people.
  
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Reply #13 - Aug 12th, 2015 at 12:13am
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Thanks for all the info ... I am getting close to a build.

So if I pure Warlock - Drow/human or pdk(+1 rein) - heavy thunderforge armor - sword and board  - Shiradi

Some questions.   Healing in EE content. Healing Spring, Pots and scrolls, cacoon twisted ? is that how we roll ? Is the PPR and damage mitigation as well as "shit dies fast" mean that healing isn't something one worries about ??

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Coffeetime wrote on Aug 11th, 2015 at 10:30am:
I've done 3 lives, all human 20 WL with GOO pact.
race- ooman
stats- 18 cha, 16 con, rest int
feats
Echew mats, Maximize
Empower
Past Life Wizard
Spell Focus
Greater Spell Focus
Quicken
Heighten
Epic Eldritch Blast
Epic Arcane Eldritch Blast
Epic Spellpower Light

ES - 42, SE to cone and everything else in TS


Hey Coffee ... do you mind me asking ... why Echew mats ??

Also I read metamagic doesn't effect Eldritch .... which, what I assume, are mostly used when playing (no idea haven't played one yet). What other spells are you using regularly on this build that benefit metamagic?

I mean those feats could be used for armor shield weapon feats so I'm picking with your build you also use other offensive spells as well, which is why I am asking.

I was thinking I only may need extend.

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Empower and Maximize work on Eldritch Burst and Spirit Blast. It does NOT work on Eldritch Aura.
  

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Arkat wrote on Aug 13th, 2015 at 11:23pm:
Empower and Maximize work on Eldritch Burst and Spirit Blast. It does NOT work on Eldritch Aura.


dang ok that makes sense now thanks!
  
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It also says quicken works with them though I don't notice any difference in activation time.
  
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vageta31 wrote on Aug 13th, 2015 at 11:43pm:
It also says quicken works with them though I don't notice any difference in activation time.

How about whether they're interruptible?
  

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So Elderitch Blast Point blank AOE - Metamagics work

Enlightened Spirit enhancements - Elderich Aura - no Metamagics

From Wiki - Point-blank AoE (aura around Warlock) was what was confusing
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Arkat wrote on Aug 13th, 2015 at 11:23pm:
Empower and Maximize work on Eldritch Burst and Spirit Blast. It's NOT supposed to work on Eldritch Aura.


Fixed that for ya... because it does >_<
  
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ZooperDooper wrote on Aug 15th, 2015 at 2:08am:
Fixed that for ya... because it does >_<


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Baddog wrote on Aug 13th, 2015 at 9:50pm:
Hey Coffee ... do you mind me asking ... why Echew mats ??

Also I read metamagic doesn't effect Eldritch .... which, what I assume, are mostly used when playing (no idea haven't played one yet). What other spells are you using regularly on this build that benefit metamagic?

I mean those feats could be used for armor shield weapon feats so I'm picking with your build you also use other offensive spells as well, which is why I am asking.

I was thinking I only may need extend.

cheers

I'm an echew fan, just don't like farting around with mats (on a Cleric life now and can't fit it in). I use the Emp/Max on the enlightened spirit burst and blast and evards, that's enough of your damage to justify them. Heh, I was wasting the piss out of a feat on heighten the last 2 lives, thanks for asking I'll get it back when I get back to WL.
  
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Coffeetime wrote on Aug 15th, 2015 at 10:10pm:
I'm an echew fan, just don't like farting around with mats (on a Cleric life now and can't fit it in). I use the Emp/Max on the enlightened spirit burst and blast and evards, that's enough of your damage to justify them. Heh, I was wasting the piss out of a feat on heighten the last 2 lives, thanks for asking I'll get it back when I get back to WL.


lol ... I read this while drinking my morning Coffee .... cheers man
  
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