[] wrote on Oct 28^th, 2015 at 10:20am:


If you quit playing why did you want to buy cred from Hag?

I don't know about DPS but good god I'm always happy to have a FotW anything running FoT with us. Just had 2 pure rangers running FotW in an EN FoT raid over the weekend. I was tanking the SR'er. Pulled him back to the wall and a few seconds later I have to intim because 1) he's peeled off of me and 2) his health has dropped about half. A few seconds later I warn them (SR'er almost down). I finish typing just in time to get the raid completion message.

So yeah, FotW probably doesn't hold a candle DPS-wise to Dreadnought. That ranged power from blitzing adds insane amounts of damage on a constant basis. But for raids that you can set up a well-timed Furyshot FotW is really nice still and those two pure rangers were dealing out massive amounts of damage in a very short time frame. I played a Furyshot archer about 18 months ago before I took a break from DDO and know how fast he could drop things in FoT - these guys were outperforming that by quite a bit. I didn't have top-end gear at that point...had a fully upgraded Pinion but most of the gear was top of the line level 24-25 stuff rather than the top of the line level 28 stuff. Maybe it's just the gear creep that we've had coupled with Ranged Power but Furyshot didn't come close to that kind of damage 18 months ago. I mentioned the nerfs to Manyshot, etc. to them because I was honestly curious - they seemed really happy with their build performance - and they said if anything they felt that they'd been buffed in the recent passes.

harharharhar wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 4:48pm:


So basically from your experience and my own second-hand experience the demise of the FotW archer and Furyshot is greatly exaggerated?

And don't forget the much larger base damage profile of comparative long-bows and shuriken that factors into the high numbers.

Excepting of course the the base damage aberrations like Snowstar, shadow star.

5 Foot Step wrote on Oct 29^th, 2015 at 3:01am:


Anyone who thinks a fury build is only useful for "1 second quests" shouldn't really give build advise/opinions.

LD and Fury both have their place, depending on a number of things (build, specific quest/fight)

If you don't understand certain quests, fights, and Fury's use with other traits to maximize the damage per shot since you have a limited amount, and come up with strategies to extend your fury throughout the quest...then yes, you should probably stick with LD.

And if you are talking purely DPS here, burst or duration, again, I don't understand how you can dismiss Fury

500k hp is not a measurement of 1 second of burst. Turbine turbined procs and base crit, so it is obvious FoTW is what is left.

harharharhar wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 10:32am:


I was talking about the base damage of the TF longbow v.s. TF shuriken, and how much larger it is and therefore benefits from the FoTW both from it's larger multiplier as well as it's larger base damage.

I referenced the aberrant Snow&shadow only in regards to how normally the difference in base damage between a Longbow and shuriken are very significant. 

4.5[1d8] v.s. 4.5[1d2],  but more importantly, I was agreeing with you conclusion and adding the comment regarding base damage as further support of it.

You don't play, you didn't understand the rules, you can't spell, for these and other reasons please go away and play with your dolls.