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Galadriel DQ Assaulter Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 419 Location: Middle Earth Joined: May 20^th, 2015 Gender:	Re: Ranger Tempest Scim with Dex is highest DPS Reply #75 - Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 10:57am	Print Post
	25% off hand DoubleStrike > 10mp + 3d6*1.5mp for procs like MF. Against bosses you may have to test but even then I believe Tempest is the way to go. Sneak Attack isn't subject to crits after all.


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totally DQ Assaulter Offline Posts: 457 Joined: Sep 2^nd, 2013	Re: Ranger Tempest Scim with Dex is highest DPS Reply #76 - Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 11:00am	Print Post
	Asheras wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 9:51am: I just eTR'd my elf tempest ranger and decided to try to set it up for full DPS.� The results are solid.� �Not sure it is on par with khopeshes, but it's better than I expected.� I had been playing with the AA and DWS stuff last eTR life.� Which is the better capstone? DWS - +20 Melee power and +3 sneak dice and +4 dex Tempest- +10 Melee Power and +25% doublestrike on offhand and +4 dex I think you're pretty much forced into going tempest capstone, because there's too much nice stuff in tier 5 tempest, DWS isn't nearly as attractive for a heavily melee-specced toon. My build (sitting a few thousand off 18 at the moment) already has 40 points into it. I've had my damn dragonmark from level one, and never really had a chance to use it for displacement! The 3 clickies of invisibility have been marginally useful though. I scroll when I have time to switch, but it's really useful for certain encounters when you want to drop out of invis for just a couple of seconds to hit a lever or whatever then quickly get invis again to zerg to the next objective. The evasion reflex saves have also been awesome, as well as really not bad AC (I think I'm at about 60 using parasitic breastplate at the moment). On balance I'd say I'd go dex-based again, but I think I'd go human to pick up the boost.


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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Ranger Tempest Scim with Dex is highest DPS Reply #77 - Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 11:12am	Print Post
	totally wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 11:00am: I think you're pretty much forced into going tempest capstone, because there's too much nice stuff in tier 5 tempest, DWS isn't nearly as attractive for a heavily melee-specced toon. My build (sitting a few thousand off 18 at the moment) already has 40 points into it. I've had my damn dragonmark from level one, and never really had a chance to use it for displacement! The 3 clickies of invisibility have been marginally useful though. I scroll when I have time to switch, but it's really useful for certain encounters when you want to drop out of invis for just a couple of seconds to hit a lever or whatever then quickly get invis again to zerg to the next objective. The evasion reflex saves have also been awesome, as well as really not bad AC (I think I'm at about 60 using parasitic breastplate at the moment). On balance I'd say I'd go dex-based again, but I think I'd go human to pick up the boost. Yeah. Good point on the Tempest T5. That's the deal breaker. I kinda like the Melee power of DWS, but you can't miss out on Dual perfection, Cuts, Whirling blands and dance of death.


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palmer01 VoD Slasher Offline Paladin Slayer Posts: 1737 Location: Los Angeles Joined: Apr 14^th, 2015 Gender:	Re: Ranger Tempest Scim with Dex is highest DPS Reply #78 - Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 11:46am	Print Post
	Asheras wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 11:12am: Yeah.� Good point on the Tempest T5.� That's the deal breaker.� I kinda like the Melee power of DWS, but you can't miss out on Dual perfection, Cuts, Whirling blands and dance of death. Curious what feats your looking at as well. I have an idea but its truly been about 3 years since i ran a tempest and 2 years since i ran AA; but since I have a storage full of khopeshes i might just lean towards them. Nontheless, im a bit hazy on this, but since im going dex base - do i need finesse? I thought I saw somewhere in the enhancement tree a bypass so i don't need to pick up this feat and i presume ill have to pick up oversized TWF; its been a while since i melee'd so any help would be appreciated.


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totally DQ Assaulter Offline Posts: 457 Joined: Sep 2^nd, 2013	Re: Ranger Tempest Scim with Dex is highest DPS Reply #79 - Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 12:20pm	Print Post
	Dex based Tempest Ranger 20 Elf Stats . . . . . . . .36pt . . Tome . . Level Up . . . . . . . .---- . . ---- . . -------- Strength. . . . .8. . . .+6. . . .4: DEX Dexterity . . . 20. . . .+6. . . .8: DEX Constitution. . 16. . . .+6. . . 12: DEX Intelligence. . 12. . . .+6. . . 16: DEX Wisdom. . . . . .8. . . .+6. . . 20: DEX Charisma. . . . .8. . . .+6. . . 24: DEX . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .28: DEX Skills . . . . . 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 . . . . .------------------------------------------------------------ Balance . 2. . .� . . �. . .1 . . 1. . .1 . . 1. . .1 . . 1. . .1 . . 10 Heal. . . 4. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23 Hide. . . 4. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23 Jump. . . 2. 3. . .2 . . 2. . .2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .11 Listen. . . . . . .1 . . 1. . .2 . . 4. . .4 . . 4. 1. 2. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23 Move Si . 4. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23 Spot. . . 4. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23 Swim. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .3 . . 4. . .4 .11 Tumble. . 1. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 UMD . . . 2. . .1 . . 1. . .1 . . 1. . .1 . . 1. . .1 . . 1. . .1 . . 11 . . . . .------------------------------------------------------------ . . . . .28. 7. 7. 7. 7. 7. 8. 8. 8. 8. 8. 8. 8. 8. 9. 9. 9. 9. 9. 9 Feats .1. . . . : Least Dragonmark: Shadow .1 Ranger : Favored Enemy: Undead .3. . . . : Precision .5 Ranger : Favored Enemy: Giant .6. . . . : Maximize Spell .9. . . . : Improved Critical: Piercing 10 Ranger : Favored Enemy: Aberration 12. . . . : Dodge 15. . . . : Mobility 15 Ranger : Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider 18. . . . : Quicken Spell 20 Ranger : Favored Enemy: Elf 21 Epic . : Overwhelming Critical 24 Epic . : Spring Attack 26 Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting 27 Epic . : Epic Damage Reduction 28 Destiny: Holy Strike Spells Ram's Might, Jump, Pass Without Trace, Merfolk's Blessing Cure Light Wounds, Barkskin, Mass Camouflage, Protection from Energy Cure Moderate Wounds, Wild Instincts, Neutralize Poison, Remove Disease Cure Serious Wounds, Freedom of Movement, Who cares Enhancements (80 AP) Elf (12 AP) Elven Accuracy Phiarlan Dragonmark Focus III, Aerenal Weapon Training Lesser Dragonmark of Shadow, Aerenal Weapon Training Greater Dragonmark of Shadow Tempest (42 AP) Shield of Whirling Steel, Tempest, Graceful Death, Deflect Arrows, Whirlwind, Dervish Improved Reaction III, Improved Defense III, Whirling Blades Improved Parry III, Improved Dodge II, Whirling Blades Whirling Blades, Dexterity The Growing Storm III, Whirling Blades, Dexterity Dual Perfection, Cuts: A Thousand Cuts III, Whirling Blades, Dance of Death III Deepwood Stalker (26 AP) Far Shot, Sneak Attack, Exposing Strike, Advanced Sneak Attack Increased Empathy III, Versatile Empathy I Survivalist, Improved Weapon Finesse, Melee/Range Power Boost III Survivalist, Favored Hunter III, Dexterity Survivalist, Killer III


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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Ranger Tempest Scim with Dex is highest DPS Reply #80 - Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 12:21pm	Print Post
	palmer01 wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 11:46am: Curious what feats your looking at as well. I have an idea but its truly been about 3 years since i ran a tempest and 2 years since i ran AA; but since I have a storage full of khopeshes i might just lean towards them. Nontheless, im a bit hazy on this, but since im going dex base - do i need finesse? I thought I saw somewhere in the enhancement tree a bypass so i don't need to pick up this feat and i presume ill have to pick up oversized TWF; its been a while since i melee'd so any help would be appreciated. You don't need finesse.� You get everything you need in the enhancement trees for tempest and dws.� For feats I think I have: Precision Weapon Focus Slashing IC: Slash Power Attack Cleave Great Cleave Power Critical +1 other feat of choice if human.� If Elf, you are done.� For epic feats, Overwhelming Crit, Perfect TWF and Holy Strikes all add to DPS.� Do what you want at 24 and 27.� � I like to work in quicken and maybe maximize for heals. I did a build where I did Dodge,Mobility, Spring Attack, CE, and Whirlwind instead of PA/Cleave/Great Cleave/Power Critical.� Whirlwind is a nice attack to have.� 4[W], 360 degree arc.� Plus that yields 7% passive dodge and no penalty to move on the run.� That was fun too, but less DPS, I think.�
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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Ranger Tempest Scim with Dex is highest DPS Reply #81 - Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 12:23pm	Print Post
	totally wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 12:20pm: Dex based Tempest Ranger 20 Elf Stats . . . . . . . .36pt . . Tome . . Level Up . . . . . . . .---- . . ---- . . -------- Strength. . . . .8. . . .+6. . . .4: DEX Dexterity . . . 20. . . .+6. . . .8: DEX Constitution. . 16. . . .+6. . . 12: DEX Intelligence. . 12. . . .+6. . . 16: DEX Wisdom. . . . . .8. . . .+6. . . 20: DEX Charisma. . . . .8. . . .+6. . . 24: DEX . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .28: DEX Skills . . . . . 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 . . . . .------------------------------------------------------------ Balance . 2. . .� . . �. . .1 . . 1. . .1 . . 1. . .1 . . 1. . .1 . . 10 Heal. . . 4. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23 Hide. . . 4. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23 Jump. . . 2. 3. . .2 . . 2. . .2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .11 Listen. . . . . . .1 . . 1. . .2 . . 4. . .4 . . 4. 1. 2. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23 Move Si . 4. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23 Spot. . . 4. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23 Swim. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .3 . . 4. . .4 .11 Tumble. . 1. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 UMD . . . 2. . .1 . . 1. . .1 . . 1. . .1 . . 1. . .1 . . 1. . .1 . . 11 . . . . .------------------------------------------------------------ . . . . .28. 7. 7. 7. 7. 7. 8. 8. 8. 8. 8. 8. 8. 8. 9. 9. 9. 9. 9. 9 Feats .1. . . . : Least Dragonmark: Shadow .1 Ranger : Favored Enemy: Undead .3. . . . : Precision .5 Ranger : Favored Enemy: Giant .6. . . . : Maximize Spell .9. . . . : Improved Critical: Piercing 10 Ranger : Favored Enemy: Aberration 12. . . . : Dodge 15. . . . : Mobility 15 Ranger : Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider 18. . . . : Quicken Spell 20 Ranger : Favored Enemy: Elf 21 Epic . : Overwhelming Critical 24 Epic . : Spring Attack 26 Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting 27 Epic . : Epic Damage Reduction 28 Destiny: Holy Strike Spells Ram's Might, Jump, Pass Without Trace, Merfolk's Blessing Cure Light Wounds, Barkskin, Mass Camouflage, Protection from Energy Cure Moderate Wounds, Wild Instincts, Neutralize Poison, Remove Disease Cure Serious Wounds, Freedom of Movement, Who cares Enhancements (80 AP) Elf (12 AP) Elven Accuracy Phiarlan Dragonmark Focus III, Aerenal Weapon Training Lesser Dragonmark of Shadow, Aerenal Weapon Training Greater Dragonmark of Shadow Tempest (42 AP) Shield of Whirling Steel, Tempest, Graceful Death, Deflect Arrows, Whirlwind, Dervish Improved Reaction III, Improved Defense III, Whirling Blades Improved Parry III, Improved Dodge II, Whirling Blades Whirling Blades, Dexterity The Growing Storm III, Whirling Blades, Dexterity Dual Perfection, Cuts: A Thousand Cuts III, Whirling Blades, Dance of Death III Deepwood Stalker (26 AP) Far Shot, Sneak Attack, Exposing Strike, Advanced Sneak Attack Increased Empathy III, Versatile Empathy I Survivalist, Improved Weapon Finesse, Melee/Range Power Boost III Survivalist, Favored Hunter III, Dexterity Survivalist, Killer III Scim's are slashing weapons. The above would work for rapiers or short swords, though.


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totally DQ Assaulter Offline Posts: 457 Joined: Sep 2^nd, 2013	Re: Ranger Tempest Scim with Dex is highest DPS Reply #82 - Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 12:24pm	Print Post
	That's the build I'm currently working towards. As I said, I haven't had a bit of luck using displacement from elf yet, and haven't really needed it. If you have infinite displace clickies from the shroud, it's obviously utterly useless, so you could take pretty much anything else. I would probably go human, and take extra weapon focuses, or maybe imp crit: bludgeon. I actually swapped that in for imp crit ranged for a bit to use ribcrackers, and if think pulverizer would stack with it in epics, which could be cool. You don't need weapon finesse at all.


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totally DQ Assaulter Offline Posts: 457 Joined: Sep 2^nd, 2013	Re: Ranger Tempest Scim with Dex is highest DPS Reply #83 - Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 12:25pm	Print Post
	Asheras wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 12:23pm: Scim's are slashing weapons.� The above would work for rapiers or short swords, though.� Yeah, I've mostly been running it as a rapier/shortsword build. As I said on the imp crit feats, I would see them pretty much as hot-swappable until cap. A really nice progression for me has been 4 - 13 2 x tiefling assassins blade + 2 x sunblade + 2 x crafted light mace holy of undead bane, then from 14 I've been using a razored (want a second) + royal scimitar, two ribcrackers and two turbulent epees (at some point I'll grind out 2 x Min 2 GS shortswords, but epee is actually pretty good as a general dr breaker).
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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Ranger Tempest Scim with Dex is highest DPS Reply #84 - Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 12:26pm	Print Post
	totally wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 12:24pm: That's the build I'm currently working towards. As I said, I haven't had a bit of luck using displacement from elf yet, and haven't really needed it. If you have infinite displace clickies from the shroud, it's obviously utterly useless, so you could take pretty much anything else. I would probably go human, and take extra weapon focuses, or maybe imp crit: bludgeon. I actually swapped that in for imp crit ranged for a bit to use ribcrackers, and if think pulverizer would stack with it in epics, which could be cool. You don't need weapon finesse at all. IC Bludgeon would be nice, too. After spending so much time in Mabar beating on Skellies and liches.


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palmer01 VoD Slasher Offline Paladin Slayer Posts: 1737 Location: Los Angeles Joined: Apr 14^th, 2015 Gender:	Re: Ranger Tempest Scim with Dex is highest DPS Reply #85 - Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 12:34pm	Print Post
	what about oversized twf? thought that was importante! lol. curious to know TF warhammers compared to scimi or khos would be like as I always find myself batteling undead/skellies


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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Ranger Tempest Scim with Dex is highest DPS Reply #86 - Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 12:48pm	Print Post
	palmer01 wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 12:34pm: what about oversized twf? thought that was importante! lol. curious to know TF warhammers compared to scimi or khos would be like as I always find myself batteling undead/skellies Tempest Core 2: Quote: Tempest: +10% stacking chance to make off-hand attacks when dual wielding weapons. You now treat Scimitars as if they were light melee weapons. While you are dual wielding, you can use your dexterity modifier to hit with light melee weapons. Note: Does not work with handwraps. No need for oversize TWF or finesse for scims on a ranger. This makes scims light weapons and makes light weapons use dex when dual wielding. The dex for damage comes from the DWS tree.


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palmer01 VoD Slasher Offline Paladin Slayer Posts: 1737 Location: Los Angeles Joined: Apr 14^th, 2015 Gender:	Re: Ranger Tempest Scim with Dex is highest DPS Reply #87 - Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 12:52pm	Print Post
	Asheras wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 12:48pm: No need for oversize TWF or finesse for scims on a ranger.� This makes scims light weapons and makes light weapons use dex when dual wielding. holy crap! have i been outdated for a while. thats good news - gonna have to go scim now.


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Galadriel DQ Assaulter Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 419 Location: Middle Earth Joined: May 20^th, 2015 Gender:	Re: Ranger Tempest Scim with Dex is highest DPS Reply #88 - Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 12:05am	Print Post
	Asheras wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2015 at 12:48pm: The dex for damage comes from the DWS tree. Graceful Death: While you are dual wielding weapons, you can use your Dexterity modifier for damage with light melee weapons. Requires: Tempest, Ranger level 6 Spend that 1 AP somewhere else unless you want it for bows as well. No real reason to though on a melee even with the tweaked out MS unless it's low levels or you can't reach a mob.


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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Ranger Tempest Scim with Dex is highest DPS Reply #89 - Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 6:27am	Print Post
	Galadriel wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 12:05am: Graceful Death: While you are dual wielding weapons, you can use your Dexterity modifier for damage with light melee weapons. Requires: Tempest, Ranger level 6 Spend that 1 AP somewhere else unless you want it for bows as well. No real reason to though on a melee even with the tweaked out MS unless it's low levels or you can't reach a mob. Good catch. I forgot that was in both trees.


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totally DQ Assaulter Offline Posts: 457 Joined: Sep 2^nd, 2013	Re: Ranger Tempest Scim with Dex is highest DPS Reply #90 - Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 7:06am	Print Post
	Galadriel wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 12:05am: Spend that 1 AP somewhere else unless you want it for bows as well. No real reason to though on a melee even with the tweaked out MS unless it's low levels or you can't reach a mob. You also need it for rapiers I believe, as they count as finessable, but are not light weapons.


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Galadriel DQ Assaulter Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 419 Location: Middle Earth Joined: May 20^th, 2015 Gender:	Re: Ranger Tempest Scim with Dex is highest DPS Reply #91 - Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 7:08am	Print Post
	totally wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 7:06am: You also need it for rapiers I believe, as they count as finessable, but are not light weapons. Rapiers yes, Scimmies no.


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palmer01 VoD Slasher Offline Paladin Slayer Posts: 1737 Location: Los Angeles Joined: Apr 14^th, 2015 Gender:	Re: Ranger Tempest Scim with Dex is highest DPS Reply #92 - Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 9:34am	Print Post
	OK, well i tinkered around and this is what I came up with. Mind you I have a heroic stone - so I figured to run up to level 8 then eat the stone. That being said, if you see something I don't need or something I should pick up other then what I have, please enlighten me. If you have a question regarding something, let me know and i will try to answer as best as I can. Otherwise I am going to TR my old toon and move forward with this char this week or next. Thanks in advance. Level 28 Lawful Good Human Male (20 Ranger \ 8 Epic) Hit Points: 480 Spell Points: 371 BAB: 20\20\25\30\30 Fortitude: 17 Reflex: 25 Will: 9 Starting Feat/Enhancement Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats (36 Point) (Level 1) (Level 28) Strength 11 16 Dexterity 18 36 Constitution 16 21 Intelligence 10 15 Wisdom 11 16 Charisma 10 15 Tomes Used +2 Tome of Strength used at level 7 +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7 +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7 +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7 +2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7 +2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7 +5 Tome of Strength used at level 20 +5 Tome of Dexterity used at level 20 +5 Tome of Constitution used at level 20 +5 Tome of Intelligence used at level 20 +5 Tome of Wisdom used at level 20 +5 Tome of Charisma used at level 20 Starting Feat/Enhancement Base Skills Modified Skills Skills (Level 1) (Level 28) Heal 4 34 Hide 8 44 Jump 4 34 Listen 0 16 Move Silently 8 44 Search 0 32 Spot 4 34 Swim 3 20 Tumble 4.5 21.5 Use Magic Device 2 21 Level 1 (Ranger) Feat: (Selected) Dodge Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead Feat: (Human Bonus) Least Dragonmark of Passage Level 3 (Ranger) Feat: (Selected) Mobility Level 5 (Ranger) Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Elemental Level 6 (Ranger) Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell Level 9 (Ranger) Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons Level 10 (Ranger) Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider Level 12 (Ranger) Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell Level 15 (Ranger) Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Construct Feat: (Selected) Power Attack Level 18 (Ranger) Feat: (Selected) Cleave Level 20 (Ranger) Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Elf Level 21 (Epic) Feat: (Selected) Epic: Overwhelming Critical Level 24 (Epic) Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell Level 26 (Epic) Feat: (Epic Destiny) Primal Sphere: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting Level 27 (Epic) Feat: (Selected) Epic: Epic Damage Reduction Level 28 (Epic) Feat: (Epic Destiny) Divine Sphere: Holy Strike Enhancement:Human - Human Versatility: Damage Boost (Rank 1) Enhancement:Human - Human Adaptability: Dexterity (Rank 1) Enhancement:Human - Orien Dragonmark Focus (Rank 1) Enhancement:Human - Improved Recovery (Rank 1) Enhancement:Human - Don't Count Me Out (Rank 1) Enhancement:Human - Lesser Dragonmark of Passage (Rank 1) Enhancement:Human - Ambidexterity (Rank 1) Enhancement:Human - Improved Recovery (Rank 1) Enhancement:Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Far Shot (Rank 1) Enhancement:Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Sneak Attack (Rank 1) Enhancement:Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Exposing Strike (Rank 1) Enhancement:Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Sneak Attack (Rank 1) Enhancement:Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Favored Protection (Rank 1) Enhancement:Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Favored Protection (Rank 2) Enhancement:Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Favored Protection (Rank 3) Enhancement:Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Increased Empathy (Rank 1) Enhancement:Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Increased Empathy (Rank 2) Enhancement:Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Survivalist I (Rank 1) Enhancement:Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Empathic Healing (Rank 1) Enhancement:Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Improved Weapon Finesse (Rank 1) Enhancement:Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Survivalist II (Rank 1) Enhancement:Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Thrill of the Hunt (Rank 1) Enhancement:Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Favored Hunter (Rank 1) Enhancement:Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Favored Hunter (Rank 2) Enhancement:Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Dexterity (Rank 1) Enhancement:Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Survivalist III (Rank 1) Enhancement:Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Dexterity (Rank 1) Enhancement:Tempest (Rgr) - Shield of Whirling Steel (Rank 1) Enhancement:Tempest (Rgr) - Tempest (Rank 1) Enhancement:Tempest (Rgr) - Graceful Death (Rank 1) Enhancement:Tempest (Rgr) - Deflect Arrows (Rank 1) Enhancement:Tempest (Rgr) - Whirlwind (Rank 1) Enhancement:Tempest (Rgr) - Dervish (Rank 1) Enhancement:Tempest (Rgr) - Improved Defense (Rank 1) Enhancement:Tempest (Rgr) - Improved Defense (Rank 2) Enhancement:Tempest (Rgr) - Improved Defense (Rank 3) Enhancement:Tempest (Rgr) - Whirling Blades (Rank 1) Enhancement:Tempest (Rgr) - Improved Parry (Rank 1) Enhancement:Tempest (Rgr) - Improved Parry (Rank 2) Enhancement:Tempest (Rgr) - Improved Parry (Rank 3) Enhancement:Tempest (Rgr) - Whirling Blades (Rank 1) Enhancement:Tempest (Rgr) - Storm Dancer (Rank 1) Enhancement:Tempest (Rgr) - Critical Mastery (Rank 1) Enhancement:Tempest (Rgr) - Critical Mastery (Rank 2) Enhancement:Tempest (Rgr) - Critical Mastery (Rank 3) Enhancement:Tempest (Rgr) - Whirling Blades (Rank 1) Enhancement:Tempest (Rgr) - Dexterity (Rank 1) Enhancement:Tempest (Rgr) - Storm Tempest (Rank 1) Enhancement:Tempest (Rgr) - Elaborate Parry (Rank 1) Enhancement:Tempest (Rgr) - The Growing Storm (Rank 1) Enhancement:Tempest (Rgr) - Whirling Blades (Rank 1) Enhancement:Tempest (Rgr) - Dexterity (Rank 1) Enhancement:Tempest (Rgr) - Dual Perfection (Rank 1) Enhancement:Tempest (Rgr) - Evasive Dance (Rank 1) Enhancement:Tempest (Rgr) - A Thousand Cuts (Rank 1) Enhancement:Tempest (Rgr) - Whirling Blades (Rank 1) Enhancement:Tempest (Rgr) - Dance of Death (Rank 1) Enhancement:Tempest (Rgr) - Dance of Death (Rank 2) Enhancement:Tempest (Rgr) - Dance of Death (Rank 3)


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totally DQ Assaulter Offline Posts: 457 Joined: Sep 2^nd, 2013	Re: Ranger Tempest Scim with Dex is highest DPS Reply #93 - Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 10:01am	Print Post
	Don't put points in wis as a ranger. Ever. I would strongly suggest taking precision rather than power attack and cleave. Cleave will break your animations slowing you down, and you will be doing perfectly respectable aoe dps with dance of death. Improved critical ranged would be better for times when you have to switch to bow, taking combat archery and pbs rounds it out nicely. This has the added bonus that if you're finding EEs unsurvivable, you could switch to primary bow user just by switching enhancements. I would also suggest that if you're stoning to 20, you don't take maximise and take empower heal instead as it affects cocoon, it's only listed in mine for levelling purposes. The 27 feat is a matter of preference, but with epic reflexes and the kind of dex you'll have, you could have almost no-fail reflex saving throws. For enhancements, dump some of human line, it's too expensive for too little benefit. Killer is a must have, and I would also probably take full evasive dance. Empathic healing is also pretty useless (I did try it out during one of my respecs). If you are going to use the bow a lot, dump something or other in DWS to pick up improved weapon finesse. My take on it would be something like: Human Ranger Ranger 20 True Neutral Human Stats . . . . . . . .36pt . . Tome . . Level Up . . . . . . . .---- . . ---- . . -------- Strength. . . . .8. . . .+7. . . .4: DEX Dexterity . . . 18. . . .+7. . . .8: DEX Constitution. . 18. . . .+7. . . 12: DEX Intelligence. . 12. . . .+7. . . 16: DEX Wisdom. . . . . .8. . . .+7. . . 20: DEX Charisma. . . . .8. . . .+7. . . 24: DEX . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .28: DEX Skills . . . . . 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 . . . . .------------------------------------------------------------ Balance . 2. . .1 . . 1. . .1 . . 1. . .1 . . 1. . .1 . . 1. . .1 . . 11 Concent . . . . . . . . . . . .2 . . 2. . .2 . . 2. 1. 3. 1. 3. 1. 3. 20 Heal. . . 4. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23 Hide. . . 4. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23 Move Si . 4. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23 Search. . 4. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23 Spot. . . 4. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23 Swim. . . 2. 2. . .2 . . 2. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 22 Tumble. . 1. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 UMD . . . 2. �. �. �. �. �. �. �. �. �. �. �. �. �. �. �. �. �. �. �. 11 . . . . .------------------------------------------------------------ . . . . .32. 8. 8. 8. 8. 8. 9. 9. 9. 9. 9. 9. 9. 9 10 10 10 10 10 10 Feats .1. . . . : Point Blank Shot .1 Human. : Dodge .1 Ranger : Favored Enemy: Undead .3. . . . : Precision .5 Ranger : Favored Enemy: Giant .6. . . . : Quicken Spell .9. . . . : Improved Critical: Slashing 10 Ranger : Favored Enemy: Aberration 12. . . . : Improved Critical: Ranged 15. . . . : Empower Healing Spell 15 Ranger : Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider 18. . . . : Mobility 20 Ranger : Favored Enemy: Elf 21 Epic . : Overwhelming Critical 24 Epic . : Combat Archery 26 Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting 27 Epic . : Epic Reflexes 28 Destiny: Doubleshot Spells Ram's Might, Jump, Merfolk's Blessing, Pass Without Trace Cure Light Wounds, Barkskin, Mass Camouflage, Protection from Energy Cure Moderate Wounds, Wild Instincts, Neutralize Poison, Remove Disease Cure Serious Wounds, Freedom of Movement, Mass Longstrider, Summon Nature's Ally IV Enhancements (80 AP) Human (6 AP) Damage Boost Action Surge: Dexterity III, Improved Recovery Deepwood Stalker (28 AP) Far Shot, Sneak Attack, Exposing Strike, Advanced Sneak Attack Stealthy III, Increased Empathy III, Versatile Empathy II Survivalist Survivalist, Favored Hunter III, Dexterity Survivalist, Killer III, Dexterity Tempest (46 AP) Shield of Whirling Steel, Tempest, Graceful Death, Deflect Arrows, Whirlwind, Dervish Improved Defense III, Whirling Blades Improved Parry III, Whirling Blades, Haste Boost III Whirling Blades, Dexterity Elaborate Parry III, The Growing Storm III, Whirling Blades, Dexterity Dual Perfection, Evasive Dance III, Cuts: A Thousand Cuts III, Whirling Blades, Dance of Death III
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Starkjade Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Rogue Scholar Posts: 7082 Location: Canadia Joined: Aug 27^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Ranger Tempest Scim with Dex is highest DPS Reply #94 - Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 10:15am	Print Post
	Maybe go human instead of elf for your last favoured enemy. Human is definitely the most common enemy in the game. Elf used to be a great idea when MotU came out, but the higher-level stuff like Wheloon, ToEE, ENecro and the U28 chain have a metric buttload of humans.

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Galadriel DQ Assaulter Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 419 Location: Middle Earth Joined: May 20^th, 2015 Gender:	Re: Ranger Tempest Scim with Dex is highest DPS Reply #95 - Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 10:28am	Print Post
	Mostly what totally said but I would drop PBS for Spring Attack Dex boost and Elaborate Parry lines for Tempest Electrical line Empathy line for Favoured Damage and Defense lines Doubleshot/Holy Strike for Elusive Target Swim for Concentration Favoured Enemy debatable Mostly its all to your preference as the base build performs really well and all the above is really just fluff.
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totally DQ Assaulter Offline Posts: 457 Joined: Sep 2^nd, 2013	Re: Ranger Tempest Scim with Dex is highest DPS Reply #97 - Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 10:35am	Print Post
	Starkjade wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 10:15am: Human is definitely the most common enemy in the game.� Elf used to be a great idea when MotU came out, but the higher-level stuff like Wheloon, ToEE, ENecro and the U28 chain have a metric buttload of humans. I've also seen people argue for dragon, simply because of the number of raid dragon bosses. In the end, these feats are probably hot-swappable depending on content you're running.


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Starkjade Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Rogue Scholar Posts: 7082 Location: Canadia Joined: Aug 27^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Ranger Tempest Scim with Dex is highest DPS Reply #98 - Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 10:40am	Print Post
	totally wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 10:35am: I've also seen people argue for dragon, simply because of the number of raid dragon bosses. In the end, these feats are probably hot-swappable depending on content you're running. Not a bad idea, my (now) pure ranger is staying as a first-life at cap, so I have dragon because raiding and high-level chest farming is about all she ever does. Best to swap as you level up, and pick the things you'll be fighting most (undead, elemental) early on when that bit of extra damage makes more of a difference.

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palmer01 VoD Slasher Offline Paladin Slayer Posts: 1737 Location: Los Angeles Joined: Apr 14^th, 2015 Gender:	Re: Ranger Tempest Scim with Dex is highest DPS Reply #99 - Nov 3^rd, 2015 at 11:14am	Print Post
	thanks guys, much appreciated. I will look into your advice after work and see how he pans out. im glad no one said anything about the dragonmark as i want Ddoor. but then again i noticed its not in your updated version. lol
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