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kum-gulp VoD Slasher Offline I Love Tired Vault Memes! Posts: 1812 Joined: Jul 16^th, 2010	Re: Sev posts about Reincarnation XP Reply #100 - Nov 7^th, 2015 at 12:35pm	Print Post
	palmer01 wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 10:40am: That is one thing I noticed in abundance as well. I look at the LFM's and practically everyone is Anon...... They may be like me - I set mine anon for good reasons years ago but reading this is the first prompt I've had since coming back to play to even look. I'll check all mine aren't now, but presumably I'm not the only forgetful one.


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Meursault Horoluth Raider Offline I Love Freedom of Speech Posts: 2410 Location: Hartford, CT; USA Joined: Aug 22^nd, 2013 Gender:	Re: Sev posts about Reincarnation XP Reply #101 - Nov 7^th, 2015 at 12:36pm	Print Post
	Darkrok wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 12:25pm: I didn't know that...was a new bug from after I took a break from the game...so thanks for that. I've just been dealing with the crappy LFM's for a few months now.� Glad I could help I haven't checked lately, but this has been a problem for several updates, but hasn't been in the known issues list. WTF is the point of a known issues list if you don't put your known issues on it?!

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Darkrok Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1066 Joined: Nov 10^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Sev posts about Reincarnation XP Reply #102 - Nov 7^th, 2015 at 12:59pm	Print Post
	Meursault wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 12:36pm: Glad I could help� I haven't checked lately, but this has been a problem for several updates, but hasn't been in the known issues list. WTF is the point of a known issues list if you don't put your known issues on it?! Are we sure they're known issues to Turbine? Seems like the only known issues there are the issues they know they don't know.

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Tangelina Waterworks Kobold Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 142 Joined: Oct 9^th, 2014	Re: Sev posts about Reincarnation XP Reply #103 - Nov 7^th, 2015 at 2:37pm	Print Post
	Yobai wrote on Nov 6^th, 2015 at 11:54am: you think someone would blacklist you for going afk?� is that even a thing any more? Yeah i was gonna say the same thing, maybe because I haven't been black listed for a long time or if I did I sure didn't know about it


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higgildypiggildy Stormreaver Piker Offline I just mock the world Posts: 664 Joined: Dec 8^th, 2011	Re: Sev posts about Reincarnation XP Reply #104 - Nov 7^th, 2015 at 4:19pm	Print Post
	The LFM not listing names is NOT a bug. 100% for sure. The 5-10 seconds of lag from getting all names of all online players was done at login time and delayed people getting on. So they changed the behaviour so that you get names when you go to the who tab. That way you get the 10s delay when it is convenient for you.

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Meursault Horoluth Raider Offline I Love Freedom of Speech Posts: 2410 Location: Hartford, CT; USA Joined: Aug 22^nd, 2013 Gender:	Re: Sev posts about Reincarnation XP Reply #105 - Nov 7^th, 2015 at 4:54pm	Print Post
	higgildypiggildy wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 4:19pm: The LFM not listing names is NOT a bug.� 100% for sure.� The 5-10 seconds of lag from getting all names of all online players was done at login time and delayed people getting on.� So they changed the behaviour so that you get names when you go to the who tab.� That way you get the 10s delay when it is convenient for you.� Not that I doubt you, but that's WAI?! They force you to download the whole 500 Who list to resolve the 50 names on the LFM panel? Or even the 10-15 names of the leaders? Instead of making the view that populates the LFM include the name? Because that would take all of 10 minutes to code, and add all of 10 ms transmit time over DSL, nevermind over a faster connection. They probably spent more time making the Who refresh the LFM than they would have fixing the query to include the name�

	Turdbin, keep changing the DDO rules, because McDonalds sold over 200 billion hamburgers by changing the recipe for their Special Sauce every couple of months to keep interest up.
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DropBear Dropbear Awareness Society Offline Don't forget to look up.... Posts: 4380 Location: Landdownunder Joined: Oct 11^th, 2013	Re: Sev posts about Reincarnation XP Reply #106 - Nov 7^th, 2015 at 4:56pm	Print Post
	Meursault wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 4:54pm: Not that I doubt you, but that's WAI?! They force you to download the whole 500 Who list to resolve the 50 names on the LFM panel? Or even the 10-15 names of the leaders? Instead of making the view that populates the LFM include the name? Because that would take all of 10 minutes to code, and add all of 10 ms transmit time over DSL, nevermind over a faster connection. They probably spent more time making the Who refresh the LFM than they would have fixing the query to include the name� Yes M, that was their fix. It was to delay the impact on startup. Don't try to rationalise it - because Turdbine, it is the path to the dark side.

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[] Madame President Offline Posts: 10532 Joined: Oct 16^th, 2015	Re: Sev posts about Reincarnation XP Reply #107 - Nov 7^th, 2015 at 4:58pm	Print Post
	sup, hamster cocks?


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Meursault Horoluth Raider Offline I Love Freedom of Speech Posts: 2410 Location: Hartford, CT; USA Joined: Aug 22^nd, 2013 Gender:	Re: Sev posts about Reincarnation XP Reply #108 - Nov 7^th, 2015 at 5:39pm	Print Post
	DropBear wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 4:56pm: Yes M, that was their fix. It was to delay the impact on startup. Don't try to rationalise it - because Turdbine, it is the path to the dark side. Wait, from startup?! That info will be stale by the time they open the LFM so they have to refresh it anyway, they save nothing. And it costs at least one and possibly two additional round trips to the server. And they have to pay that additional overhead over and over again, because as people log off and new ones log on, the local copy of the Who list will be stale, and they'll again have to download the whole 500 long list. Or maintain and transmit concurrency information so they can download only change sets, but that's a huge amount of overhead to save downloading 50 names� That right there is a reason to avoid a server merge, that's painful with 500 people online, that delay will really be apparent if they have 2-3k users to download every time somebody wants to checks the LFMs.

	Turdbin, keep changing the DDO rules, because McDonalds sold over 200 billion hamburgers by changing the recipe for their Special Sauce every couple of months to keep interest up.
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higgildypiggildy Stormreaver Piker Offline I just mock the world Posts: 664 Joined: Dec 8^th, 2011	Re: Sev posts about Reincarnation XP Reply #109 - Nov 7^th, 2015 at 5:50pm	Print Post
	Meursault wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 5:39pm: Wait, from startup?! That info will be stale by the time they open the LFM so they have to refresh it anyway, they save nothing. Well, in fact, people who login after you are logged in do notify your as yet unset who list of themselves (same with logouts).� But yes, it would obviously be better to get the 25 leaders names from the leaders list (or 100 names from all in LFM groups).� Their basic design for the who list is an observer list that notifies everyone about any change to it.
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Starkjade Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Rogue Scholar Posts: 7082 Location: Canadia Joined: Aug 27^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Sev posts about Reincarnation XP Reply #110 - Nov 7^th, 2015 at 5:52pm	Print Post
	I always type in the first three letters of my name into the who panel, then hit search as soon as I log in. Seems to make the LFM names appear more quickly.

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DropBear Dropbear Awareness Society Offline Don't forget to look up.... Posts: 4380 Location: Landdownunder Joined: Oct 11^th, 2013	Re: Sev posts about Reincarnation XP Reply #111 - Nov 7^th, 2015 at 5:59pm	Print Post
	Meursault wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 5:39pm: Wait, from startup?! That info will be stale by the time they open the LFM so they have to refresh it anyway, they save nothing. And it costs at least one and possibly two additional round trips to the server. And they have to pay that additional overhead over and over again, because as people log off and new ones log on, the local copy of the Who list will be stale, and they'll again have to download the whole 500 long list. Or maintain and transmit concurrency information so they can download only change sets, but that's a huge amount of overhead to save downloading 50 names� That right there is a reason to avoid a server merge, that's painful with 500 people online, that delay will really be apparent if they have 2-3k users to download every time somebody wants to checks the LFMs. They mumbled something about reducing the load on the servers, but to my mind it was simply about giving the appearance of faster startup times. From my perspective it is akin to putting delays on your startup programs, so non-essential crap starts 30 secs later.� For me the Lfm and who list are not very high priority so I'm ok with it not loading if I don't need it. Running off a high end PC with SSD, it doesn't make much difference, but my lower end slave PC's do notice the faster startup. Now whether it makes any difference to the game or server loads I don't know.
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Meursault Horoluth Raider Offline I Love Freedom of Speech Posts: 2410 Location: Hartford, CT; USA Joined: Aug 22^nd, 2013 Gender:	Re: Sev posts about Reincarnation XP Reply #112 - Nov 7^th, 2015 at 6:45pm	Print Post
	higgildypiggildy wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 5:50pm: Well, in fact, people who login after you are logged in do notify your as yet unset who list of themselves (same with logouts).� But yes, it would obviously be better to get the 25 leaders names from the leaders list (or 100 names from all in LFM groups).� Their basic design for the who list is an observer list that notifies everyone about any change to it.� OMG, that's hysterical. I'd love to see a mousetrap designed by Turbine employees

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Revaulting Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Posts: 10143 Location: Not in my pants Joined: Apr 3^rd, 2014 Gender:	Re: Sev posts about Reincarnation XP Reply #113 - Nov 7^th, 2015 at 8:04pm	Print Post
	Meursault wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 12:36pm: WTF is the point of a known issues list if you don't put your known issues on it?! They would've put "Not updating known issues list" on the list, but it was an update to the known issues....

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Who Cares Not this guy ^^^ Offline You sir, are a dickbag. Posts: 1951 Joined: Dec 5^th, 2014	Re: Sev posts about Reincarnation XP Reply #114 - Nov 7^th, 2015 at 10:00pm	Print Post
	All you really need to do to update that who list and get the LFM panel un-turbined is go to the who list, uncheck the "any" box then drag the slider down.

	Fuck Off, That is all Strakeln wrote on Feb 10^th, 2016 at 9:17pm: WC can do whatever he wants. [] wrote on Feb 6^th, 2017 at 11:26pm: Public Service Announcement: your servers are not dead; if you can't find groups, it means you suck and/or nobody likes you.
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RemRemi Ex Member I Love Drama!	Re: Sev posts about Reincarnation XP Reply #115 - Nov 8^th, 2015 at 1:03am	Print Post
	Starkjade wrote on Nov 7^th, 2015 at 5:52pm: I always type in the first three letters of my name into the who panel, then hit search as soon as I log in.� Seems to make the LFM names appear more quickly. Me too, still takes foooooooooorever.


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totally DQ Assaulter Offline Posts: 457 Joined: Sep 2^nd, 2013	Re: Sev posts about Reincarnation XP Reply #116 - Nov 8^th, 2015 at 4:45am	Print Post
	I don't need to do most of that, simply clicking on the slider and nothing else works for me.


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