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U28 monkcher
Nov 8th, 2015 at 11:51am
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Are monkcher worth playing after the enhancement pass? An if so does anyone have a good build?
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Reply #1 - Nov 8th, 2015 at 12:06pm
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monkcher was sub-par pre-nerf.
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Reply #2 - Nov 8th, 2015 at 12:27pm
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Depends what you're running really. What do you intend to do?
  
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Reply #3 - Nov 8th, 2015 at 4:48pm
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I'm playing a Monkcher Shuriken Hybrid in FOTW and last night in ToEE  on EE it was just absolutely insane. Trash melts, red names melt, it totally bananas. Was with a pure 20 Ranger TWF/Ranged and he's a good player and he wasn't close. Another guy was pure pally Twf, and a pure Warlock. All stand out Khyber players.

Could not even come close to keeping up on kills or Red named Deeps. They are all arguably even better players than me. But the build made me look really really good.
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Reply #4 - Nov 8th, 2015 at 6:43pm
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Yeah I played a bunch this week and I didn't see one pure Ranger Player that could come close to keeping up with any meta builds.  They are definitely better than they were prior to the pass but they are not comparable. 

What I find worth mentioning is the pent up demand there was for a decent ranger buff. So many people I play with are running and trying to tweak pure rangers to make them sustainable. Really good long term players, trying everything they can to make it work with a sub-par structure.

Turbine really missed they boat, if they had done a decent pass on rangers instead of using them as a convenient trigger for a wide nerf I firmly believe it would have driven as much growth in player hours as that Swashbuckler release did.

People love the idea of Rangers, especially ranged versions, but this was not the pass they waited for.

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Reply #5 - Nov 8th, 2015 at 7:13pm
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Grand wrote on Nov 8th, 2015 at 6:43pm:
So many people I play with are running and trying to tweak pure rangers to make them sustainable.



Proof you're running with nothing but idiots since pure rangers are inherently sub-par (lol @ unsustainable; it's not agriculture, lern 2 words, faggot!)
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Reply #6 - Nov 8th, 2015 at 8:38pm
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[] wrote on Nov 8th, 2015 at 7:13pm:
(lol @ unsustainable; it's not agriculture, lern 2 words, faggot!)


Irony, anyone?
  
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Reply #7 - Nov 8th, 2015 at 8:49pm
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WeHaveLived wrote on Nov 8th, 2015 at 8:38pm:
Irony, anyone?



No joke, what a imbecile he is. Get's worse :http://www.ddovault.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1445817246/287#286

He is so stupid it hurts.
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Reply #8 - Nov 8th, 2015 at 8:58pm
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Re: U28 monkcher
Reply #9 - Nov 9th, 2015 at 4:23am
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go 14 monk 6 ranger half elf rogue dilettante, if u dont want sniper shot go 20monk half elf rogue dilettante, FOTW


  
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Reply #10 - Nov 9th, 2015 at 4:58am
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wouldnt ranger 12 beat everything out now?
  

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Re: U28 monkcher
Reply #11 - Nov 9th, 2015 at 8:14am
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Rubbinns wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 4:58am:
wouldnt ranger 12 beat everything out now?


It is interesting, but 12 ranger means 6 or 8 monk, and i don't know how much the 10k with only few lvls of monk will help..

so imo, 14monk 6 ranger or 20 ranger are best choices.

some crazy fool might also want to test 14 pal 6 monk, but still, i dont like 10k with few lvls of monk
  
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Reply #12 - Nov 9th, 2015 at 8:54am
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Grand wrote on Nov 8th, 2015 at 6:43pm:
People love the idea of Rangers, especially ranged versions, but this was not the pass they waited for.

I know many, many people who have started this game and then quit purely through disappointment with the Ranger class.
  
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Reply #13 - Nov 9th, 2015 at 9:53am
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kum-gulp wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 8:54am:
I know many, many people who have started this game and then quit purely through disappointment with the Ranger class.


fucking A: so much THIS!
  
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Reply #14 - Nov 9th, 2015 at 5:54pm
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Rubbinns wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 4:58am:
wouldnt ranger 12 beat everything out now?


my hybrid is 12 ranger for bow and shuriken crit threat.

And for the noobs saying 6 monk doesn't make 10k worth it: do the math.

At end game I'm running around with 50-54 (if I eat cookies) Wisdom. That's 100-108 Ranged Power during 10k. That' 50 Average full time RP. But since its a burst build in FoTW, 100 half the time suits it better. That is worth 6 Monk levels by itself, but on top of that, I still get 30% Doubleshot during my bursts.

Sure, More doubleshot is nice when I'm chucking Shuriken, but with ~70 Dexx2, Main Hand Throw, and Doubleshot with 6 monk that's around ~80% during 10k, even additional 30% Doubleshot from being 12 Monk just isn't that material, since I'm already throwing 100%+140%+80% = 320% at 6 monk. Adding 100% RP to that during 10k with Adrenaline and Sniper Shot seals the deal.

The extra ranger levels for feats and Crit threat on bows and shuris are way better, as are the Ranger trees versus the garbage Monk trees.

Saying you shouldn't take 10k on a thrower is insane (post most recent changes to 10k). Saying you should forgo 12 Ranger for more Monk levels for negligible Doubleshot increases is unwise, IMO.
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Reply #15 - Nov 9th, 2015 at 9:16pm
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lern 2 AA faggots.

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Re: U28 monkcher
Reply #16 - Nov 11th, 2015 at 3:12pm
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harharharhar wrote on Nov 8th, 2015 at 4:48pm:
I'm playing a Monkcher Shuriken Hybrid in FOTW and last night in ToEE  on EE it was just absolutely insane. Trash melts, red names melt, it totally bananas. Was with a pure 20 Ranger TWF/Ranged and he's a good player and he wasn't close. Another guy was pure pally Twf, and a pure Warlock. All stand out Khyber players.

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whats the build
  
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Reply #17 - Nov 11th, 2015 at 3:18pm
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Reply #18 - Nov 11th, 2015 at 9:13pm
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Reply #19 - Nov 11th, 2015 at 9:14pm
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Those damage numbers are quite low.
  
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Reply #20 - Nov 11th, 2015 at 10:25pm
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