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Jan 7th, 2016 at 5:44pm
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This post is incomplete. Bored at work so started it. Don't have ability to get all the necessary screen shots at work.

Zergod
Bladeforged 13 Wizard/4 Favored Soul/3 Warlock
True Neutral

Stats
To be updated later.
Str-8 Base
Dex-8 Base
Con-20 Base
Int-18 Base
Wis-10 Base
Cha-6 Base

Skills

Max the following
Spellcraft
Concentration
UMD
Perform
Balance
Heal
Repair

Leftover points into Diplomacy

Feats

Heroic
Adamantium Body
Insightful Reflexes
Completionist
Wizard Past Life
Maximize
Empower
Quicken
Extend
Mental Toughness
Improved Mental Toughness

Epic Feats
Wellspring of Power
Master of Knowledge
Ruin
Intensify Spell

Epic Destiny Feats
Spell Power Force
Hellball
Arcane Pulse

Legendary Feats
Scion of the Plane of Fire

Enhancements

To be updated later.

Gear

Goggles: Concordant Opposition SP/Cha skills heroic greensteel
Helmet: Triple Negative SP/Int Skills legendary greensteel
Necklace: Resonation
Trinket:  Manual of Stealthy Pilfering
Cloak: Legendary Construct'a Mantle
Belt: Epic Chord of Reprisals
Gloves: Gauntlet of the Arcane Soldier
Boots: Boots of the Devil Commander
Wrist: Mysterious Bracers
Ring1: Lantern Ring
Ring2: Con Ring
Docent: Docent of the Celestial Sage
Main hand: Thunder forged Kama Impulse/ Red Slot/ Force Crit
Off hand:Golden orb of Death

potential gear changes:

goggles-legendary shroud dominion something
helmet- legendary boundless
necklace- legendary shroud dominion something
trinket- manual of stealthy pilfering
cloak-constructs mantle
belt- epic chord of reprisals
gloves-arcane soldier
boots-legendary dominion something
ring1-dire resonating impulse
ring2-lantern
wrist-legendary shroud escalation sp/int skills
docent-hardy docent of impulse
wep1-glaciation/con7/mrr kama aspect of steam
wep2-mrr/mrr/con2 aspect of steam---possibly  vacuum or something else that will do dps/increase dps but have int on it
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Reply #1 - Jan 7th, 2016 at 9:28pm
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This has to be a trolling attempt.
  
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Reply #2 - Jan 7th, 2016 at 9:42pm
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Sergod wrote on Jan 7th, 2016 at 5:44pm:
Intensify Spell

greater ruin. dont be skeered.

  

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I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Rubbinns takes the bait.
  
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Cool, I was contemplating whether I wanted to LR out the paladin levels.  With the aura bug and 10% extra crit, it seems quite good.  But if they fix the bug in the next update, I don't think it's worth it.
  
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AtomicJew also takes the bait.
  
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Reply #6 - Jan 8th, 2016 at 7:53am
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Are you getting Intense Faith and Smighting IV on this build?
If you're not then fvs2 should be enough...

Just saying, I'm not the specialist here  Tongue
  
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[] wrote on Jan 7th, 2016 at 9:28pm:
This has to be a trolling attempt.



You were the first to nibble fuckwad...
  

Welcome to your sexually transmitted death sentence served in a shit-machine meat suit.
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Why should we do this or any other magic missiles build instead of Sestra's ruin king build? https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/429975-Sestra-s-Build-Thread?p=5678743...
  
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Vaultaccount wrote on Jan 8th, 2016 at 8:56am:
Why should we do this or any other magic missiles build instead of Sestra's ruin king build? https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/429975-Sestra-s-Build-Thread?p=5678743...


It's a fucking TROLLING ATTEMPT you blithering idiot!
  
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Reply #10 - Jan 8th, 2016 at 11:05am
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GrizzlyBear wrote on Jan 8th, 2016 at 7:53am:
Are you getting Intense Faith and Smighting IV on this build?
If you're not then fvs2 should be enough...

Just saying, I'm not the specialist here  Tongue

I am. 15 wiz gains me nothing vs 13 wiz. 2 more fvs is 4 crit and same caster lvl...+1 caster lvl if you want to take the third intense faith but no need as CL 18 either way
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Rubbinns wrote on Jan 7th, 2016 at 9:42pm:
greater ruin. dont be skeered.


nah. intensify all the spells. metas affect shiradi procs
  
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That's it Sersock, reel them in.
  
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I may experiment with g ruin, but probably not...
  
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Vaultaccount wrote on Jan 8th, 2016 at 8:56am:
Why should we do this or any other magic missiles build instead of Sestra's ruin king build? https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/429975-Sestra-s-Build-Thread?p=5678743...

wizard icon gets slightly more spell points, more feats, more spells (DBF, Acid Busrt/Fireball, Force Miss). It gives up 20% crit multiplier.


Sergod wrote on Jan 8th, 2016 at 12:24pm:
I may experiment with g ruin, but probably not...

is only a feat swap. Using it properly is key. Unless you have infi pots. Then there is no reason you don't want to spam both ruins non-stop. The timing is after all your clickies, stacks, and AS proc. Huge spike dmg here. Looking at 90K combo with low force power of 700~. Higher multiplier and critical range makes these builds the best ruin casters. 
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I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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I enjoy playing wizard. Don't really care about a warlock build.
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Sergod wrote on Jan 8th, 2016 at 12:56pm:
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Goggles: Concordant Opposition SP/Cha skills heroic greensteel
Helmet: Triple Negative SP/Int Skills legendary greensteel
Necklace: Resonation
Trinket:  Manual of Stealthy Pilfering
Cloak: Legendary Construct'a Mantle
Belt: Epic Chord of Reprisals
Gloves: Gauntlet of the Arcane Soldier
Boots: Boots of the Devil Commander
Ring1: Lantern Ring
Ring2: Con Ring
Docent: Docent of the Celestial Sage
Main hand: Thunder forged Kama Impulse/ Red Slot/ Force Crit
Off hand:Golden orb of Death


Abisahi 3pc with Intense Faith gets your CM CL to 19 without Gauntlets Soldier. Probably easier to gear up without that and take 17 CL CM. 1 less projectile, not biggest loss.

Maybe spell cost reduction item from Goggles or Gloves?

Necklace : should probably give up Resonation for Noxious Embers. Gives you an extra 17% to everything including procs, hellball, ice/lightning dots, and fireball/acid.

Wrist : you didnt list one. either Dissolution or Inferno Bracers makes sense there. I would go Inferno as it also frees up your con ring slot, and spellcraft +20 augment/item. Plus way easier to farm.

Trinket : Both Litany of the Dead for turn the page clickies. Keeping Manual is fine for the spellcraft boost. Might also want Planar Compass for Ghostly and more prr/mrr. 

  

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I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Rubbinns wrote on Jan 8th, 2016 at 1:34pm:
Abisahi 3pc with Intense Faith gets your CM CL to 19 without Gauntlets Soldier. Probably easier to gear up without that and take 17 CL CM. 1 less projectile, not biggest loss.

Maybe spell cost reduction item from Goggles or Gloves?

Necklace : should probably give up Resonation for Noxious Embers. Gives you an extra 17% to everything including procs, hellball, ice/lightning dots, and fireball/acid.

Wrist : you didnt list one. either Dissolution or Inferno Bracers makes sense there. I would go Inferno as it also frees up your con ring slot, and spellcraft +20 augment/item. Plus way easier to farm.

Trinket : Both Litany of the Dead for turn the page clickies. Keeping Manual is fine for the spellcraft boost. Might also want Planar Compass for Ghostly and more prr/mrr. 



Procs use the critical of the spell they proc off of. It would benefit hellball however. Hmm.
I use mysterious bracers for MRR. At 142 prr 91 mrr. I use litany clicking obv
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My gear is fluid still, especially with shroud gear changing it. I need a dire resonating ring of impulse to replace the con ring and Ill use an ash int kama
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Vaultaccount wrote on Jan 8th, 2016 at 8:56am:
Why should we do this or any other magic missiles build instead of Sestra's ruin king build? https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/429975-Sestra-s-Build-Thread?p=5678743...


This build is superior to ruin king.  Ruin king is all about the big crit number, but this build is more consistent.

1) 20% extra crit damage is much less of an increase now, due to other crit multiplier increases.  In fact, it's pretty much matched by the 4% crit from T4 AoV.  Math:

Assume 70% base crit chance
Base 2.95 crit multiplier for this build (MOK, scion of fire, core 2 TS)

0.2 crit multi increase for ruin king = 5.9% dps increase
4% crit chance increase for this build = 3.3% dps increase

So the 20% crit damage increase is almost completely matched by two more FvS levels. 

2) This build has a much easier time gearing out (no 3pc abishai required).  With new gear and greensteel, I don't see how you can fit 3pc abishai effectively.

3) More chain missiles - although CM is still majorly bugged, it's clear that you get more procs with more caster levels.
  
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Goggles: Concordant Opposition SP/Cha skills heroic greensteel
Helmet: Triple Negative SP/Int Skills legendary greensteel
Necklace: Resonation
Trinket:  Manual of Stealthy Pilfering
Cloak: Legendary Construct'a Mantle
Belt: Epic Chord of Reprisals
Gloves: Gauntlet of the Arcane Soldier
Boots: Boots of the Devil Commander
Ring1: Lantern Ring
Ring2: Con Ring
Docent: Docent of the Celestial Sage
Main hand: Thunder forged Kama Impulse/ Red Slot/ Force Crit
Off hand:Golden orb of Death


Docent with insightful impulse +70.
  
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Sergod wrote on Jan 8th, 2016 at 2:54pm:
dire resonating ring

doesnt Reprisal cover sonic?
  

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Dire resonating = force
  
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AtomicMew wrote on Jan 8th, 2016 at 2:58pm:
Docent with insightful impulse +70.


ya and  legendary boundless for insightful potency...if i can find a docent of con/impulse that would be sweet
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