harharharhar wrote on Mar 14^th, 2016 at 3:15pm:


Build drama is weak.

harharharhar wrote on Mar 15^th, 2016 at 11:46am:


Accusation of lying? No.

Knowing that you had an axe to grind, I merely attempted to explain the flaws that I noticed in your testing (Poor destiny, stance, and weapon choices). Sorry if it came off a little condescending, but you're the one that started slinging shit.

So I just finally hit 30 last night (combo of RL stuff and lag monster making me not care to play).

I will post final gear/twists/APs/Feats in a day or so. Not too much to change, but a few tweaks here and there. So far looking like a beast.

Cripey wrote on Mar 19^th, 2016 at 2:02pm:


It's an interesting idea, as this build came together pre-Gnome.

Not sure I'd want to lose the human damage boost, but it's probably a perfectly good alternative.

5 Foot Step wrote on Mar 19^th, 2016 at 4:56pm:

5 Foot Step wrote on Mar 19^th, 2016 at 4:56pm:

5 Foot Step wrote on Mar 19^th, 2016 at 4:56pm:

Ok, that was pretty damned funny.   I'll give you that.   

WonderfulFoppyBint wrote on Mar 20^th, 2016 at 1:52pm:


you can do better than that on a fury shuri.

However, this thread is not about FuryShuri's, it's about Terror arrow DC builds

Feel free to post your Thrower build, so we can actually talk about it.


I still think 14Monk/6Ranger is the highest Fury thrower build possible, but I'd be happy to be proven wrong.

I tweaked your build by merging it with mortal fear 2.0 for higher DCs , double shot, and defense, and I think more dps due to imbue levels.

Elf Lawful Goodness

1 Warlock 6 Monk 6 Fighter 6 Monk 1 Warlock

Feats:
1 PL: Bard Warlock Pact: Fey (1 DC)
2: Monk Free: Shuriken Monk: Shuriken Expertise
3  Completionist (1 DC) Monk: Deflect Arrows
6 SF: Enchant
7 Monk: 10k Stars
8 Fighter Free: Point Blank Shot
9 GSF: Enchant  Fighter Free: Rapid Shot (1 DC)
11 Fighter Free: Quick Draw
12 PL: Wiz
13 Fighter Free: Precise Shot
15 IPS (Dex 19, tomes +4)
18 Maximize (for Mass CSW SLA)
21 Arcane Insight Average (1 DC)
24 Embolden (2 DC)
26 + Spell Power
27 Haste
28 Double Shot
29 Chaos
30 Scion of Feywild (4 DC)
30 Empower (for Mass CSW SLA)

Stats:
Max Dex
Max Wisdom, all level ups in wisdom

Enhancements:

AA 41 4 DC 2 Wisdom, Final Strike, Imbues for bosses 25% double strike (4 DC)
Elf 14 AA, (1 DC)
SE 2 4 Fort Debuff
NiS 13 More shurikens, dex to damage, 1 wisdom
ES 1 Warlock Aura
StD 9


Wisdom@20 = 18 + 5 level ups +5 tome + 2 ship + 8 item + 3 stance + 6 ED + 3 Enhancement + 2 Completionist = 52

ED: Exalted Angel 3 DC 6 Wisdom
Twists: 3-2-2-1-1  Whirling Wrists, Draconic Presence, Spell School Specialist: Enchantment, Enlightenment, Wisdom 6 DC

EE Spell Equivalent Level 20 terror arrows breakdown:
Vorpal and Not a Spell 6 DC
Feats 4 DC
ED total 9 DC
Item (+4 Enhancement +1 Insight) 5 DC
Augment 1
Ship Buff 1 DC
Enhancements 5 DC
Stats 21 DC
Base 20 DC
Debuff Fort -4 Fort Save
Debuff Fear -2 All Saves
Endless Night Augment -2 All Saves

Weapon: Dawnbringer/Endless Night Socketed


75 Terror Arrows DC, with -4 Fort applied on hit @ level 20.

Spell Pen: Unnecessary: applied on-hit.

Lvl 30 over level 20:

+2 Wisdom (Tome)
+2 Wisdom (Level Ups)
+14 Wisdom (15/7 LGS item)
+1 Wisdom (Exceptional Globe of Imp)
+2 Wisdom (Profane)
+2 Wisdom Yugo
+1 ED
24 Higher Wisdom
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+12 DC from Wisdom
+4 DC (4/1 to 6/3 Item Enhancement)
+1 DC (Augment 1 to 2)
+7 Feats
+1 DC (Profane Armor)
25 Higher DC overall
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Net Spell Equivalent DC @30 100 Will Save, 104 Fort Save, bypassing spell pen. Dispelling shot for DW champs/mobs.

Weapon: Epic Dawnbringer or Mortal Fear socketed Endless Night with Offhand LGS 15/7 Wisdom tier 2

Tweaked it again, replacing ranger with fighter for more feats and defensive stance, which will add 225 spell power to Mass CSW SLA.

Now I really like how it sits.

As to DCs vs debuffs, it's not possible to vorpal and not apply the neg level or fear effect. The fort debuff one could count separately. But then I'd have two different categories of stuff to count, when all I care about is the sum of both for comparison to my other DC caster builds.


It's been too long since I've played a monk. Will I want more ki regen twisted instead of 1 wisdom? Probably...

5 Foot Step wrote on Apr 1^st, 2016 at 11:17am:


Get it at monk 12 (lvl 19), tossed in enlightenment. Moved points over to NiS for shadow fade and wisdom. Now its rocking! thx

Yup, at a DC of 81-83 you will be fine spending anything more in the way of gear, ehance, lv-ups, is going to downgrade your dps and overall performance.

Note that I'm talking about 'real DC', not the number achieved by inflating with de-buffs and vorpal effects. In fact for anyone other than Jakelala I would advise against counting the tainted blood because you are 'counting' on hits and effects that may not be applied and are not applied right away.

Also, adding in or counting on a Vorpal effect is counter intuitive you should be geared and prepare so that when you get the Vorpal the PK, takes the mob down.

After 5 months of these builds I can tell you, that anything below 80 wont work consistently, and anything over 83 is over kill. On those occasions where the higher number is needed is what the arcane insight feat following a dispel shot is for, not to be a 'overall' addition to DC numbers.

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FTFY.