am running this and it's a frigging glass cannon but it is fun.  big damage AOE and about 220 hit points at level 14...I kill a lot of stuff and I die every quest (almost) and it's a nice change.  will see how it goes in epic, but is a lot of fun in heroic

Mkay, so I figured I was leaving too much damage on the table. Since I'm going int based, I can drop electric loop which is the weakest SLA and and 2% crit for KTA, while getting dire charge at 29.

Can swap tactics gear in and abishai out at 29. Maybe swap abishai out earlier. Maybe not even use it.

This will bring the multiplier up another 1.5x, for 60x damage.

The remaining sorc SLA shocking grasp has no save, so we can dump stat charisma, and go max int/con, fixing some of the glass cannon problems.

Ludicrous speed! Now!

Vaultaccount wrote on Jun 21^st, 2016 at 10:09am:


That was pretty funny actually.

@Tilo looking to TR into this after I finish my 20 MOD runs would you be able to provide the leveling order? Also what are the projected hits/crits looking like for the SLAs on this? is it the DPS listed in your post X multiplier?

Would you be able to post the leveling order? Not sure which classes go where on the way to 20th.

ah, you wouldn't want to finish with 1 arti to max out trap skills?

Mmm now that I'm swapping to KTA and dropped abishai set I've been rethinking race and level split.

Definitely want to swap 1 sorc level to arti for caster levels. So 13/4/3.

Think it would be best to drop two more and go 15/2/3 and get reconstruct. I have a feeling if we are dire charging into the middle of the fray we will need it.

I haven't figured that out yet. Level 27 as vangaurd wolf still. With 31 total ED points, as a robot can swap up twists as well to get more DCs.

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looks like :
20 ap into air savant for tier 3 and core 2 (spell crit, electrocution)

39 ap into arcanotech for tier 5 and core  4

14 ap into archmage for tier 3 and core 1.   --  tilo, why core 2 in am tho? the fak, breh. web, knock? seems like waste of 1 ap. if you spend more than 14 in am and more than 6 into kta would be impossible to put 21 into savant for electric loop sla tier 1. yw

6 harper for kta

The high level full AoE rotation:

Dire Charge > Lightning Motes SLA > Blast Rod SLA > Lightning Sphere SLA > Lightning Motes > Blast Rod > Lightning Sphere

even if dire charge fails to stun is going to do something like:

(40x + 30x) Lightning Sphere SLA 84
(40x + 30x) Blast Rod SLA 169
(40x + 30x) Lightning Motes 130
Arcane bolt 0
1/2 a fire spell 0

= 70x 383 = 27k.

Dire charge stunned targets will take more.

What's nice about it is that it is an unending rotation you can just repeat until you run out of mobs, with stuns and no-save dazes every few seconds tossed in to reposition. I think mana will hold. We'll find out.

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I wouldnt spend more than 6 for kta. it's a one time thing per pack of trash right before dire charge. Like an energy burst sorta. The loop is just for some other type of cc, if your dc is good enough to not get saved on, then loop's will dc would be highly effective. hellball is your only spell that cannot be evaded.

Edit: am wrong, sphere cant be saved for daze effect, and it's fort based for damage so cannot be evaded. possibly better putting another point into kta then to save mana costs.

I cant in good conscience allow you to take blur sla for ap. ;p

15/2/3 loses approx 20 spellpower from less ap into savant and no core 2, loss of 1 CL, and 2% electric crit chance. Not really sure where else 10 ap will recoup some of that. At least not feasibly, can get 6 universal power and 1 more int from harper i suppose.

Rubbinns wrote on Jun 29^th, 2016 at 1:27pm:


Hellball, static shock, shocking grasp, and sphere cant be evaded.

You and I have displacement clickies, but not everyone does Honestly I have them but stopped using them a long time ago. Someone in this thread was even asking about 5 wiz, which would also work. It would lose caster levels and reconstruct but you could smoothen the rotation by taking arcane blast as a T5.

Spell power loss is relatively small, as is 2% crit when you are at 70%. CL loss is only on shocking grasp, since you are moving levels to arti. Gain of a working dire charge for closing the gap for shorter range spells and stun I hope will pay off. Will find out!

On electric immunes in heroics use a repeater and runearm. In epics toss a few no-save dazes and let your party take everything apart, tossing hell balls and rune arm blasts.

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I do not. I had**. But was butsekzd by turbine. New account aint got shit on it, breh.

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Recon is worth it anyway even if the loss was higher. Not sure how high your other repair spells are getting. If you can get one to hit for 800 you dont need recon then and can keep more spellpower.

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And Arcane Supremacy. No displacement is huge, imo. Should prolly get displace self cast on build and see how high you can push repair spells with repair amp cloak and metas.