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Alex DeLarge Epic Poster Offline Get ready for some of the 'ol in-out, in-out Posts: 3464 Location: Foggy Albion Joined: May 11^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Kensei Shuriken Reply #50 - Jul 4^th, 2016 at 11:42am	Print Post
	5 Foot Step wrote on Jul 4^th, 2016 at 11:22am: The others are correct that no gear gives 22%; however, they ignore the fact that the actual haste spell also gives 22%. So if you are able to reliably mooch it and/or have a stack of cl20 pots there is no optimization reason to give up 2 ranged power. Blinding Speed would just be a convenience feat. I gave up 2 ranged power at creation. I wont min-max at the cost of dumping CON. I guess I'm just gonna have to "live" with it. Key word being LIVE


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Alex DeLarge Epic Poster Offline Get ready for some of the 'ol in-out, in-out Posts: 3464 Location: Foggy Albion Joined: May 11^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Kensei Shuriken Reply #51 - Jul 4^th, 2016 at 11:47am	Print Post
	5 Foot Step wrote on Jul 4^th, 2016 at 11:22am: however, they ignore the fact that the actual haste spell also gives 22%. So if you are able to reliably mooch it and/or have a stack of cl20 pots Are you sure about this? I've been checking all the pots, scrolls, spell etc and spreadsheet ranged alacrity never showed above 15%. It has been tested even. That's where I got my confirmation that only Blinding speed was giving the right amount of ranged speed;


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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Kensei Shuriken Reply #52 - Jul 4^th, 2016 at 11:56am	Print Post
	http://ddowiki.com/page/Attack_speed#Ranged_weapons_anomaly It is inconsistency in descriptions. Haste et al states the value after the reload animation inefficiency. Blinding Speed is the exception that states the value before the reload animation inefficiency.

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Alex DeLarge Epic Poster Offline Get ready for some of the 'ol in-out, in-out Posts: 3464 Location: Foggy Albion Joined: May 11^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Kensei Shuriken Reply #53 - Jul 4^th, 2016 at 12:00pm	Print Post
	5 Foot Step wrote on Jul 4^th, 2016 at 11:56am: http://ddowiki.com/page/Attack_speed#Ranged_weapons_anomaly It is inconsistency in descriptions. Haste et al states the value after the reload animation inefficiency. Blinding Speed is the exception that states the value before the reload animation inefficiency. Apparently Haste spell has been fixed circa u28. Here's the quote from Eth


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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Kensei Shuriken Reply #54 - Jul 4^th, 2016 at 12:04pm	Print Post
	Alex DeLarge wrote on Jul 4^th, 2016 at 12:00pm: Apparently Haste spell has been fixed circa u28. Here's the quote from Eth 5 Foot Step wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 10:59am: Life is pain, Buttercup.

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Alex DeLarge Epic Poster Offline Get ready for some of the 'ol in-out, in-out Posts: 3464 Location: Foggy Albion Joined: May 11^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Kensei Shuriken Reply #55 - Jul 4^th, 2016 at 12:11pm	Print Post
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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Kensei Shuriken Reply #56 - Jul 4^th, 2016 at 2:39pm	Print Post
	Alex DeLarge wrote on Jul 4^th, 2016 at 11:42am: I gave up 2 ranged power at creation. I wont min-max at the cost of dumping CON. I guess I'm just gonna have to "live" with it. Key word being LIVE So you took 12 con instead of 12 int? Which 2 skills did you drop? Do you feel the 60 more HP was worth it?

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	Alex DeLarge wrote on Jul 4^th, 2016 at 11:42am: I gave up 2 ranged power at creation. I wont min-max at the cost of dumping CON. I guess I'm just gonna have to "live" with it. Key words being I was cured, all right! My God! What happened to you, my boy? Are you not the poor victim of this horrible new technique?

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Alex DeLarge Epic Poster Offline Get ready for some of the 'ol in-out, in-out Posts: 3464 Location: Foggy Albion Joined: May 11^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Kensei Shuriken Reply #58 - Jul 4^th, 2016 at 10:38pm	Print Post
	5 Foot Step wrote on Jul 4^th, 2016 at 2:39pm: So you took 12 con instead of 12 int? Which 2 skills did you drop? Do you feel the 60 more HP was worth it? Wisdom:18 -> 16.


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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Kensei Shuriken Reply #59 - Jul 14^th, 2016 at 2:02pm	Print Post
	Modified for 32 pt 1st life: Strength............8 Dexterity...........18 (+ level ups) Constitution........10 Intelligence........12 Wisdom.............16 Charisma............8 Level 1� �: Point Blank Shot Level 1(H) Quick Draw Level 2(M1) Shuriken Expertise Level 3� �: Dodge Level 3(F1) Weapon Focus Thrown Level 4(M2) Precision Level 5(R2) Rapid Shot Level 6� �: Mobility Level 7(F2) Weapon Focus Ranged Level 9� �: Improved Critical Thrown Level 12 : Master of Forms Level 12(M6) 10K Stars Level 13(F4) Weapon Specialization Thrown Level 14(R4) Precise Shot Level 15 : Improved Precise Shot Level 17(F6) Weapon Specialization Ranged Level 18 : Grandmaster of Forms Level 21 : Overwhelming Critical Level 24 : Combat Archery Level 26 : Epic Spellpower Level 27 : Shot on the Run Level 28 : Doubleshot Level 29 : Harbinger of Chaos Level 30 : Great Dexterity Level 30 : Scion of Arborea
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Toke Stormreaver Piker Offline ... or maybe I was just smoking something. Posts: 744 Joined: Jan 7^th, 2014	Re: Kensei Shuriken Reply #60 - Jul 16^th, 2016 at 10:49am	Print Post
	5 Foot Step wrote on May 27^th, 2016 at 4:25pm: Enhancements Kensei: 33 AP Core 3/6 Extra Action Boost 3/3 (6 pts) Weapon Group Specialization 4/4 (8 pts) Haste Boost 3/3 Ascetic Training (Contemplation) 3/3 Dex +1 Dex +1 Critical Mastery 1/3 Strike at the Heart A Good Death One with the Blade Keen Edge I think you can't take 4th weapon group specialization without fighter 8 to get greater weapon focus.

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Alex DeLarge Epic Poster Offline Get ready for some of the 'ol in-out, in-out Posts: 3464 Location: Foggy Albion Joined: May 11^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Kensei Shuriken Reply #61 - Jul 17^th, 2016 at 8:00am	Print Post
	Toke wrote on Jul 16^th, 2016 at 10:49am: I think you can't take 4th weapon group specialization without fighter 8 to get greater weapon focus. You think in the past. Search for Fighter enhancement pass. You'll figure it out.


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Toke Stormreaver Piker Offline ... or maybe I was just smoking something. Posts: 744 Joined: Jan 7^th, 2014	Re: Kensei Shuriken Reply #62 - Jul 17^th, 2016 at 11:11am	Print Post
	Hmm. When I looked at the tool tip on the tree in game, it still says that prereq and the wiki still has the prereq.

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WonderfulFoppyBint Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Poooop Posts: 5947 Location: stockholm victim of hag master Joined: Oct 23^rd, 2013	Re: Kensei Shuriken Reply #63 - Aug 20^th, 2016 at 8:18am	Print Post
	Someone confirmed the multiplier is actually working right?

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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Kensei Shuriken Reply #64 - Aug 20^th, 2016 at 11:31am	Print Post
	Toke wrote on Jul 16^th, 2016 at 10:49am: I think you can't take 4th weapon group specialization without fighter 8 to get greater weapon focus. This is true, I never went back and fixed it until today. It wasn't a prereq for the T5 stuff, so no big deal. WonderfulFoppyBint wrote on Aug 20^th, 2016 at 8:18am: Someone confirmed the multiplier is actually working right? Sadly, it is not. You still want Strike w/o Thought for the doubleshot though.

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WonderfulFoppyBint Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Poooop Posts: 5947 Location: stockholm victim of hag master Joined: Oct 23^rd, 2013	Re: Kensei Shuriken Reply #65 - Aug 20^th, 2016 at 11:33am	Print Post
	5 Foot Step wrote on Aug 20^th, 2016 at 11:31am: This is true, I never went back and fixed it until today. It wasn't a prereq for the T5 stuff, so no big deal. Sadly, it is not. You still want Strike w/o Thought for the doubleshot though. Ty mate~~~

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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Kensei Shuriken Reply #66 - Aug 30^th, 2016 at 1:00pm	Print Post
	I should test out the helf capstone. 41 AA 15 Helf 14 NS 9 KS 1 DWS If it works out, I can drop 2 fighter levels, for 12/4/4 picking up abundant step and more monk RP. Maybe even 16/2/2 or 18/2. Would have to see how the feats work out.

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Doodle Abbot Raider Offline Shoot first ask questions later! Posts: 991 Location: Purgatory Joined: Jun 16^th, 2015 Gender:	Re: Kensei Shuriken Reply #67 - Sep 2^nd, 2016 at 12:49pm	Print Post
	So the multiplier from strike isn't working? I just tr and was doing variation of this build 10/6/4.


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Doodle Abbot Raider Offline Shoot first ask questions later! Posts: 991 Location: Purgatory Joined: Jun 16^th, 2015 Gender:	Re: Kensei Shuriken Reply #68 - Sep 2^nd, 2016 at 3:33pm	Print Post
	So can someone confirm strike with no thought multiplier doesn't work on a shuriken? It does on melee, but haven't gotten 6 levels of ftr yet to know for sure.


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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Kensei Shuriken Reply #69 - Sep 2^nd, 2016 at 4:18pm	Print Post
	Sadly, it is not. You still want Strike w/o Thought for the doubleshot though.
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Doodle Abbot Raider Offline Shoot first ask questions later! Posts: 991 Location: Purgatory Joined: Jun 16^th, 2015 Gender:	Re: Kensei Shuriken Reply #70 - Sep 2^nd, 2016 at 7:09pm	Print Post
	5 Foot Step wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2016 at 4:18pm: Yeah I saw that. Haven't paid much attention to updates/fixes lately. Haven't played much either and thought they might have done something since 8/20 to rectify it. Guess not thank you.


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Doodle Abbot Raider Offline Shoot first ask questions later! Posts: 991 Location: Purgatory Joined: Jun 16^th, 2015 Gender:	Re: Kensei Shuriken Reply #71 - Sep 2^nd, 2016 at 7:10pm	Print Post
	Wow it didn't copy your post. Oh well. Thanks 5foot


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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Kensei Shuriken Reply #72 - Oct 5^th, 2016 at 5:20pm	Print Post
	L Executioner's Helm (Ins deception +7, Relentless Fury, Seeker 17, Mythic +3) Slave craft neck (False Life 68, Accuracy 28/-/Q Hide 5) E Litany (+2 stats, +4 hit and damage) Mysterious Cloak (45 exc Hamp, 25 ins MRR) Slave Craft Belt (Sheltering 45/ Deadly 14/-/Q PRR) Slave craft ring (Wiz 371/Magnetism 185/-/Q Wis 4 CC Ring (Hide 22 of Protection 12 Ins Dex 7) EE Backstabber Gloves (Imp Deception, SA +5) Slave craft Boots (Dex 17/AP 28/Tendon Slice/Q Dex 4) Slave craft Bracers (Con 17/Devotion 185/-/Q Con 4) Visions of Precision (Wis 12, Ins Wis 4, Ki 3, Mythic +3) ToEE robe (Fort 150, lesser displace, Absorption 30, Resistance 12, Mythic +4) T3 TF Shuri/ToEE offhand (Mythic +4) Epic Dynamistic (DS 8%, RP 4) ToEE set +20 RP, SP Slave Lord's Might set +2 Art Str & Dex, +4 Art RP, +4 Art Deadly Grindy and awkward, missing dodge, hamp, way over the MRR cap. Maybe a 3-piece would fit better.
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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Kensei Shuriken Reply #73 - Oct 5^th, 2016 at 5:56pm	Print Post
	L Executioner's Helm (Ins deception +7, Relentless Fury, Seeker 17, Mythic +3) Slave craft neck (Sheltering 45, Healing Lore/-/Q Wis 4/+3 Mythic) E Litany (+2 stats, +4 hit and damage) LGS Cloak (70 HP, 39 dex skills) L Animated Rope (SA +14, Dodge 17, Mythic +3) L Ring of Prowess (Deadly 14, Accuracy 28, RP 8, Mythic +3) CC Gloves(DS 9 of Hamp 61 Ins Dex 7) Voice of Deceit (Imp Deception) Slave craft Boots (Dex 17/AP 28/Tendon Slice/Q Dex 4/+3 Mythic) Slave craft Bracers (Con 17/Devotion 185/-/Q Con 4/+3 Mythic) Visions of Precision (Wis 12, Ins Wis 4, Ki 3, Mythic +3) ToEE robe (Fort 150, lesser displace, Absorption 30, Resistance 12, Mythic +4) T3 TF Shuri/ToEE offhand (Mythic +4) EE Quiver of Poison ToEE set +20 RP, SP Slave Lord's Might set +4 Art RP, +4 Art Deadly
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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Kensei Shuriken Reply #74 - Nov 26^th, 2016 at 6:59pm	Print Post
	L Executioner's Helm (Ins deception +7, Relentless Fury, Seeker 17, Mythic +3) E Golden Guile (Improved Deception, Ghostly) E Litany (+2 stats, +4 hit and damage) CC Cloak (Spell Saves 12/Dodge 15/i Wis 7/2 slots) Slave craft belt (False life 68/Deception 14/-/Q PRR 11/Mythic 3) L Ring of Prowess (Deadly 14, Accuracy 28, RP 8, Mythic +3) CC Gloves(DS 9 of Hamp 61 Ins Dex 7) Slave craft ring (Wis 17, Resistance 14/-/Q Wis 4/+3 Mythic) Slave craft Boots (Dex 17/Magnetism 185/Tendon Slice/Q Dex 4/+3 Mythic) Slave craft Bracers (Con 17/Devotion 185/-/Q Con 4/+3 Mythic) LGS Goggles (70 HP, 39 dex skills) Outfit of the Celestial Guardian (Fort 159, Q Deadly 3, Sheltering 38, Parrying 7, Deathblock 9, Angelic Grace, 2 slots, mythic +4) T3 TF Shuri/Rebellion (-25% threat, Sneak Attack +5, Improved Deception, Armor Piercing 20%, red slot) EE Quiver of Poison Slave Lord's Might set +2 Dex/Str, +4 Art RP, +4 Art Deadly Added Ghostly, more dex, more wis, more spellpower, and double stacked Improved Deception.
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