Seems to me getting a wizi from 1-20 would be easier than getting a gimped shiradi-less set up from 15-20, followed by the 20-30 as shiradi since you're iconic if all you really want is wizi past lives.

If you need wizard past lives you can dump the sorc. You do not need it.

Go 15 wizard / 3 paladin / 2 FvS.

15-20 on 15 wizard levels is easy. If you go with the sorc/wiz/fvs split it will be painful. I am doing it right now. (10sorc is enough to make it bearable but only just.)

WonderfulFoppyBint wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 2:42pm:


I'll try that, then. Just looking for anything with "easy button" in the tittle

You don't really need paladin levels at all.  You could just do 15/4/1. You have ranged DPS, quickened reconstruct and displace.  That's more than most builds already.

WonderfulFoppyBint wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 8:40pm:

I had to drop recon sla, sergod was right ; AP tight as fuck.

my set up on robot
Archmage and AoV always 35 and 28. every time with 6 wiz and 4 fvs levels. every version ever.
4 ap bf for asf 15% reduction
6 in EK for asf 5% reduction
6 in tainted Scholar for depravity, 30 sp, 3 spellcraft and 10% magic crit multi
1 ap Soul Eater for 5 universal spellpower.

If not going for the warlock levels that leaves 7 ap spare.

@Nom you could go gnome iconic and heal using undead form in scalemail. It's actually better than robots because of the constant ticks, death burst also deals dmg to mobs while healing, save a feat for adam body, and saves some ap from bf racial that can go into EK for the 10% asf and 0.5 universal per point spent. 11 ap in EK. 6 has to go into PM for shroud of zombie. 

WonderfulFoppyBint wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 8:40pm:


Yes definitely



Rubbinns wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 8:56pm:


Is a tempting idea, but I never got the hang of palemaster-ing. Might be time to finally change that my only real requirement for self-healing is that it be unlimited or nearly so(no set "charges") and that I not have to switch out an item to do it(UMD scroll healing works ok, but if you're a melee you basically stop all DPS to scroll).

So deathburst would be fine. Plus it helps that on my main I actually have a shitload of past lives and awesome gear, something not available on my alts

So that's 13 wizard/4 fvs/3 paladin to do it off a bladeforged. If going from a deep gnome, what's the split?

[] wrote on May 31^st, 2016 at 3:17pm:

noamineo wrote on Jun 1^st, 2016 at 1:33pm:

yes, and undead immunities
Immunity to all mind-affecting effects (charms, compulsions, phantasms, patterns, and morale effects).
Immunity to poison, sleep effects, paralysis, stunning, disease, and death effects.
Not subject to critical hits/sneak attacks - All Undead are treated as having 100% fortification and sneak attack immunity. If you have effects that reduce fortification, you will be able to critical hit but not sneak attack them.
Not subject to nonlethal damage, ability drain, or energy drain. Immune to damage to its physical ability scores (Strength, Dexterity, and Constitution), as well as to fatigue and exhaustion effects.


check out eth's thread for how it works in general
https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/475680-10-6-4-Sorc-Wiz-FvS-Undead-Shir...

AtomicMew wrote on Jun 1^st, 2016 at 3:26pm:

insane right?

those are crits. belt is 70+ hamp, pm tree 10 hamp, 600~ neg power, spell crit multipliers.

edit : after watching some of his vids, it's aura snapshots current crit chance, power and multiplier when cast. Supremacy, Empyrean, buffs = go.

Rubbinns wrote on Jun 1^st, 2016 at 3:43pm:


eth stated that 1% spell crit damage = 3.5 spellpower.  I didn't believe it, but I did the math and he is right (arcane supremacy makes no difference on the relative value).  So I've vastly overestimated crit damage.  I still think the 4 piece material set is worth it (equivalent to about 100 spellpower), but it's a closer call on a 5th piece instead of e.g. earthen mantle. 6% additional HP is still pretty nice.   

That also calls into question the 3 warlock splash, which is equivalent to about ~40 spellpower, and you're giving up caster levels and the ability to splash something else (sorc, barb).  I'm now thinking the warlock splash is clearly not optimal based on those numbers.   

Also, he takes noxious embers instead of resonation.  I'm not sure I agree with that. 

AtomicMew wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 2:52am:

The caster levels are the only thing that bothers me, because I like max missile spam, otherwise the warlock splash offers more power than sorc or w/e. Depravity is 25 spell power and 2 dcs to your spells, 3 spellcraft, and 4.5 from 6 ap spent. Another point in soul eater for 1st core is 5 universal. 7 ap for a total of 37.5 spellpower. Not sure anything for 3 levels and 7 ap is getting 37 universal. And if 10 crit multi is 35 spellpower then that is 72.5 total

AtomicMew wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 2:52am:

I feel like it a toss up, certainly a swap out on a boss, but against packs of trash you're getting 17% on your hellball, energy burst, fireball/acid blast/chain lightning/prismatic, shiradi sonic core, and his aura. There is also the 150 combustion there

WonderfulFoppyBint wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 11:03am:

shiradi procs use the spell they came from, the sonic from core 4 uses sonic.