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Optimal build for dps?
Jun 17th, 2016 at 3:25am
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Ignoring any and all factors besides dps, what is the highest dps build at the moment?

Wolf (10drd/6rgr/4ftr), tempest str khopesh (20rgr), assassin dex blitz (20rog), shiradi w/ pots (13wiz/4fvs/3wlk or 10sor/6wiz/4fvs), or something else?

I'm going to be testing the above listed builds, as well as, any suggested when lamm opens up in the coming month.

Thanks in advance for any and all help/responses.
  
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Reply #1 - Jun 17th, 2016 at 5:29am
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http://www.ddovault.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1461864099/104#104

long thread, lot of info there.

Wolf and trees.

I suspect goldie's shiradi template would come out to around 50-60 seconds on joy-joy.

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also didnt get to try kensei after the live patch. will get around to trying most of those next lama build.

  

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Reply #2 - Jun 17th, 2016 at 7:18am
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Thank you for the link and all the effort spent testing!

Don't think anything (non-wolf) will match that wolf time you have posted. Just wow!

If you don't mind me probing for more details, what were your hp/prr/ac/dodge at (rough guess if you don't have an exact number please)?
  
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Reply #3 - Jun 17th, 2016 at 9:08am
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Dwarf, pure artificer, dual wielding Dwarven Axes; there's literally nothing better.
  
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[] wrote on Jun 17th, 2016 at 9:08am:
Dwarf, pure artificer, dual wielding Dwarven Axes; there's literally nothing better.


In the hands of an expert, sure.  But a newb would struggle to control the power of this one.
  
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DoRayEgon wrote on Jun 17th, 2016 at 9:41am:
But a newb would struggle to control the power of this one.


You calling that faggot a newb?  That's fucking racist.
  
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[] wrote on Jun 17th, 2016 at 9:45am:
You calling that faggot a newb?  That's fucking racist.


Sorry meant noob.
  
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DoRayEgon wrote on Jun 17th, 2016 at 9:49am:
Sorry meant noob.


That's better.  For those of you in the dark (no pun intended) "newb" is short for "New Black"; someome who, while genetically African-American, has no semblance of a black identity; synonymous with "Uncle Tom."
  
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Reply #8 - Jun 17th, 2016 at 3:07pm
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Dr Faustus wrote on Jun 17th, 2016 at 7:18am:
what were your hp/prr/ac/dodge at (rough guess if you don't have an exact number please)?

That build has the defenses of an eggshell. Literally nothing besides dodge. It's just to get the fastest lama kobold time Cheesy. It can be played but it will need huge number of past lives, will need to use dodge rotations like Meld, and Elab Parry, and displace clickies, forcefield/shadow cookie, etc.

Tilo's sneakzilla has defensive roll while still having insane dps and can go in heavy armor if needed.
  

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Reply #9 - Jun 17th, 2016 at 6:55pm
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20 US/ES/SE Warlock, because you can pull 30 mobs at a time. Fey of course, for wings when slowed by red alert to pull another 5.

But that's just in 99% of the game.

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Reply #10 - Jun 17th, 2016 at 7:17pm
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I was going for single target damage (because that's where it counts in LE shroud).

Wouldn't tree be better aoe dps anyways? I mean I haven't seen a single warlock solo EH (or for that matter even EN) doj, whereas tree builds are capable of doing it with ease (even the old, harder doj).
  
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Reply #11 - Jun 17th, 2016 at 7:22pm
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Dr Faustus wrote on Jun 17th, 2016 at 7:17pm:
I was going for single target damage (because that's where it counts in LE shroud).


That's EXACTLY what Dwarven Axe dual-wield is for!
  
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Reply #12 - Jun 17th, 2016 at 7:33pm
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--YnBFlxpkI

dude on my server ee doj solo monk tree
  

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Impressive - figured it was only a matter of time that someone would be able to given the raids nerfing. Still really impressive accomplishment!
  
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Reply #14 - Jun 18th, 2016 at 4:38pm
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Rubbinns wrote on Jun 17th, 2016 at 5:29am:
also didnt get to try kensei after the live patch. will get around to trying most of those next lama build.



Live testing and calcs is showing it is on part with ranger.
More hp, more prr. Self-heals aren't as good and less incorp / dodge.

Ranger is better IMO if you have the hp PLs. I'm able to hit 2350 hp though with a LGS set and tovens on the fighter though---so I can take a direct hit from Sor'jek and survive.

It's nice to have cleaves / laywaste on a TWF after not having done that for years---need 4+ targets though for it to be worth it.

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Reply #15 - Jun 20th, 2016 at 11:15am
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Dr Faustus wrote on Jun 17th, 2016 at 3:25am:
Ignoring any and all factors besides dps, what is the highest dps build at the moment?

Wolf (10drd/6rgr/4ftr), tempest str khopesh (20rgr), assassin dex blitz (20rog), shiradi w/ pots (13wiz/4fvs/3wlk or 10sor/6wiz/4fvs), or something else?

I'm going to be testing the above listed builds, as well as, any suggested when lamm opens up in the coming month.

Thanks in advance for any and all help/responses.


Dr Faustus wrote on Jun 17th, 2016 at 7:17pm:
I was going for single target damage (because that's where it counts in LE shroud).


If single target DPS is your only consideration, you want pure dex assassin in LD.

http://www.ddovault.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1458078943

(Though I haven't been able to get the level 18 TA core to work anymore recently.  Angry)
  

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Reply #16 - Jun 20th, 2016 at 1:14pm
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Melee AoE - Wolf
Melee Single Target - Assassin (maybe wolf too)

Ranged - Mech

Not sure about Magic...
  
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Reply #17 - Jun 20th, 2016 at 2:47pm
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20 human ranger khopesh
  
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12fighter/6ranger/2paladin with kensei, tempest stuff (thousand cuts dance of death), divine might, and know the angles? Curious how that would compare to other options.
  
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Sergod wrote on Jun 20th, 2016 at 3:07pm:
12fighter/6ranger/2paladin with kensei, tempest stuff (thousand cuts dance of death), divine might, and know the angles? Curious how that would compare to other options.

that should be good due to trip boosting. probably around the same as 15/5 pally tempests now.
  

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Reply #20 - Jun 20th, 2016 at 9:32pm
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Cleric has more dps than any two of these builds put together if all you want is single target boss burst. Maybe even more than any three of these...

Mmm, in a raid setting...
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Sergod wrote on Jun 20th, 2016 at 3:07pm:
12fighter/6ranger/2paladin with kensei, tempest stuff (thousand cuts dance of death), divine might, and know the angles? Curious how that would compare to other options.


Will lose crit expansion or DoD there somewhere since you can't take 2 Tier 5s and Ranger crit expansion is at Level 12.
  
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DoRayEgon wrote on Jun 21st, 2016 at 9:21am:
Will lose crit expansion or DoD there somewhere since you can't take 2 Tier 5s and Ranger crit expansion is at Level 12.


Ya wouldnt have any crit expansion.
  
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Reply #23 - Jun 21st, 2016 at 9:53am
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11 Rogue 6 Fighter 3 Ranger w/Khopesh

Tier 5 Kensai, rest pts in StD defensive stance, tempest 10% off hand, harper int to hit/dmg and KtA

Should have about 8 sneak dice with expanded range/multiplier on khopesh.
  
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