harharharhar wrote on Jul 7^th, 2016 at 12:39pm:


Calculations with buffers

So, hide breakdown?

Ranged is for pussies.

DoRayEgon wrote on Aug 12^th, 2016 at 4:55pm:

20 rogue mech times.

Full blitz and full archer focus stacks. Camo scroll, tenser scroll, gh scroll, flame bolts.

107 or more seconds for hvy repeat
109 or more seconds for gxbow

46 int, 84 hide, 28 dubshot, and 80 ranged power.

Rubbinns wrote on Aug 12^th, 2016 at 8:19pm:

now take into account people have higher dubshot items, dubshot past lives, monk and ranger lives along with toee off hand item. This build easily shits on mechs.

same pure mech but now in fury:

80 seconds great xbow

95 heavy repeater

Rubbinns wrote on Aug 12^th, 2016 at 8:19pm:


This build, when I was still playing, or very slightly different versions, were basically God Mode, when you had all the best equipment and PL's, ePLs, etc.

Some believed me, a lot didn't. Everyone who played with me seemed to understand.

I'm glad someone else actually tested this and people can take it from someone else. And I agree, there is no other conceivable ranged build that is even close to this sort of endgame badassery. The only build that could ever come close on trash numbers were top tier tree builds. Wolf builds did not in my experience. Shiradi nukers did not. Mechs did not. Paladins and Rangers did not, and Barbs were a joke. Versus red names, I don't think it has any competition.

You can tweak it like I used to, for a little more defense, or a little more burst and less sustained, or whatever. I liked my 14Monk/6Ranger the best honestly, but that's just me. End of the day though 10k+Manyshot+Fury is just too good versus everything else.

harharharhar wrote on Aug 13^th, 2016 at 7:41pm:

yeah that seems great too. trying these out has made me a fan. I dont even wanna log onto my mech anymore ;(

Also if you never understood my seemingly irrational hatred of 5FS in regard to thrower builds, you should now. His insistence that I cheated at tests or that he should be forgiven for 20 Monks or whatever other BS he would come up with made my head explode. There's a reason he never posted a single red name test result, play video, or any other sort of evidence for any of the crap he would say.

http://imgur.com/a/bpL78
46 seconds.

http://imgur.com/a/lytKe
41 seconds

http://imgur.com/D0s9WKP
40 seconds

A try hard time and pretty decent set up. Camo, Tenser, Ram's, Primal Scream, Flame Arrows, and 49 ranged power.

Still missing toee off hand for 20 ranged power. I had to use a redemption for 2d6 holy and red slot electric 138. Missing every relevant dps past life epic or heroic, and completionist, also missing max twists and fate points. Missing insightful dex 7, insightful wisdom 7 swap. Equipped were Dex 15 boots, wisdom 14/insightful int 6 cloak, and celestial guardian outfit from character copy and tr of my mech on live in order to have past life rogue and 34 points with some slightly better gear.

64 dex with surge running, 44 wisdom, 49 ranged power.

Character sheet
http://imgur.com/a/htAXp

The time can be lowered with any of the above, easily. Damage modifiers do not scale symmetrically with throwers and other builds due to chance at extra stars. The build rewards past lives and gearing more so than all other ranged builds because of that. And because doubleshot does not divide by three compared to a repeater mech it gains more over them as well. Mechs have a high floor but lower ceiling compared to this. Stand by it being the best ranged build in the game, by far, and possibly best overall build in the entire game.

AP + gear layout used
http://imgur.com/a/stSwv

AP secondary AP trees
http://imgur.com/pCjmKNp

ED and twists
http://imgur.com/a/4sjTB

Edit : Just got a 35 seconds without 10k. without using 10k Was actually in earth stance. Being in earth is better since the majority of the dps is coming from manyshot. Swapping out to wind might slow me down, but should be even faster if I dont forget to build ki for 10k before I start.

Rubbinns wrote on Aug 15^th, 2016 at 5:10pm:


You mean only with normal shuriken throwing? And does that include clicking sniper/arrow of death/adrenaline?

Vaultaccount wrote on Aug 15^th, 2016 at 5:47pm:

Not even if this build wasnt allowed to use manyshot or 10k and just had boosts and stars. It still beats out a mech in LD using boosts and repeater/grt xbow.

Every facet, this build wrecks.

If I dont use 10k, or manyshot, or even slayer button. It still comes in at 110 seconds in LD. 10-15 seconds lower if only allowing slayer. This is without the two insane bursts.