harharharhar wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2016 at 1:08am:

I do tenser, gh, camo, haste. Basics. And w/e else the build has itself. Ram's, Animal growth, Spiderskin etc.

Go all out and use every potion you can get. Cookies cant be used in dojo, sadly. Take evey non-dps feat out. Take every dps feat and put in.

I get 10 stacks of blitz, make sure fully buffed, click sneak of shadows button and then turn around to another kobold for the test. Same with unbridled. Have it ready and start the dps. Stack archer's focus up too. After that it's just rotations of boosts and click attacks.

For the thrower I would ;

Twist ; dance of flowers, stay frosty, whirling wrists, haste boost.

Start in earth stance and shadow arrow for max crit multiplier. It is higher potential during manyshot than staying in wind for shuris.

hit boosts first. Then manyshot -> unbridled -> slayer -> attack clickies. Spam adrenaline while unbridled sets up for next timer and spam slayer. Both should never be off cooldown. Swap to shuris and 10k when manyshot ends. easier and faster if you hotkey weapon swaps and macro boosts. im trying to get rapid stress injury in my wrists though

Rubbinns wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2016 at 3:06am:


This is exactly what i did with my transfered toon from live. 12/6/2 OP's build with one change.
I capped INT instead of WIS for KTA. I think it is a few points more consistent damage during bow time, which is the most important during a boss fight, imo.  I'm missing my Festive INT augment which would net me 54 INT using the LGS int swap weapon. I also didn't twist whirling wrist, i sacrificed throw speed for dps, the loss is not such big deal to me.  I'm missing 1 twist point, which i'm working on getting currently on live. Grim, Crit Damage, A Dance of Flower, Enlightenment and cocoon. I kept the twist as i would use during quests, but i think Stay Frosty would've been a better choice instead of Dance of Flower.

Buffs i used:
- Commendation pots
- Tenser
- KTA
- Sneak of Shadows
- Rams might
- Camouflage
Missing Yugo pots and prob some others(?)

Timing: 17s

Maybe i could've had a lower timing if i had macro'd my clickies, if i had whirling wrist and the other stuff.

Rubbinns wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2016 at 3:06am:


Thought the haste boost didn't apply for ranged, or there was a cap at speed?

Halfmaniac wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2016 at 10:23am:

17 seconds is a ridiculous, sick time. assuming your toon has all dps past lives? I don't think the wolves can match that time. thanks for the tries.

Halfmaniac wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2016 at 10:23am:

not much of a difference there.

Halfmaniac wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2016 at 10:23am:

it is, you're correct. 10k isn't even needed if going under 30 second kill times, and shurikens arent getting used if under 20 seconds.

Vaultaccount wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2016 at 10:58am:

idk, now that you mentioned it someone could go and test it. or someone else knows anything about this? haste boost seems to work for my mech and seemed to work for shuri tossing. maybe it only looked that way to me.

harharharhar wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2016 at 3:47pm:


So that means there is a cap?

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News flash - there's more to DDO than killing a boss. 

Even if those builds kill the dojo kobold 2s faster, they're going to suck during all the time you spend killing trash without furyshot charged and boosts running so why bother?  This thread has already shit all over the fight club rule. 

Coming up with a build that can kill the kobold in 10s even if it sucks at everything else in the game will just get stuff nerfed for no reason.  All the devs will hear about from the mobo paladins is "OMGZ  10 SECONDZ MANYSHOOTZ TIMEZ!!!!111!!  NERFZ THEM!!!111"

It's just like the ship runspeed buff.  It was completely fine, didn't hurt anyone, and was even a nice little quality of life perk for most players.   All it took to get it removed was one overly chatty fanboi (fangirl?) trying to look smart and impress the sheep on the mobos and *poof*, there it went.

Digimonk wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 12:45am:

this is the only thing i have left to entertain me in this game

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pure manyshot speed kill?

hmm...

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dont need this on kobold. swap w weapon focus.

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what is this for?

points in
14 helf
41 aa
6 harper
11 dws

that is the core.

is the extra sneak worth dance of flowers + earth stance?

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dm/kta then? 1 fvs over arty?

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I thought the entire point of the build was to down the kobold during the manyshot, so there should be no downtime?

Digimonk wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 12:45am:


QFT. It is interesting, but I'm even more interested in optimizing what is practical in actual play.

() wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 10:26am:



Tell us more about manyshots "four arrows every time!" princess. 

Rubbinns wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 1:44pm:

I vote to call it the Hireling build. 

It'll be about as useful as a divine hireling that you summon and park at the entrance to a mission you're soloing so you can summon it to you for a res if you screw up and die.  Highly useful for that one particular function, terrible at everything else.