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Barb Epic Riftmaker Build
Jul 30th, 2016 at 2:00pm
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I understand it may not be max DPS in the game, but hoping someone could point me to a strong Human Barb-based 2HF build. I have a level 11 barb I'm looking to dust off. Thanks!
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Re: Barb Epic Riftmaker Build
Reply #1 - Jul 30th, 2016 at 2:50pm
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16 barb 2 druid 2 bard

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36 Ravager (crit rage/blood strength)
8 Swasbuckling En Pointe (AoE double attack)
13 FB Supreme Cleave
23 Free AP


Druid wolf form will convert riftmaker to twf on most newer special attacks like supreme cleave and En Pointe, which will mean they will double hit with it at Riftmaker's  crit profile.

This will give you strong single target wolf damage, and strong AoE THF damage at the same time.
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Re: Barb Epic Riftmaker Build
Reply #2 - Jul 30th, 2016 at 6:55pm
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Sounds great Tilo, I'll give it a shot!
  
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Reply #3 - Jul 31st, 2016 at 12:51am
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Mmm I guess heroic feats are 3xTWF, PA, Cleave, GC, IC:B, IC:S

Will need to swap to a heavy shield for double MRR vs reflex against heavy AoE fights like Abishai.

If you do more bard levels, you can heal with sustaining song in heroics. It's 2 hp/sec modified by spell power ~100, and HAMP ~100 for 8 hp/sec, with enough charges and duration to do an entire quest.

I'd probably do 6 bard, and pick the bard levels up much earlier for self healing if I started at 1. After supreme cleave, of course.
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Reply #4 - Jul 31st, 2016 at 12:21pm
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So you're thinking 12 barb/6 bard/2 druid instead of 16/2/2?
  
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Reply #5 - Jul 31st, 2016 at 6:28pm
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Ya that or 12/6/2 barb/fighter/bard

Fighter would add crit multiplier and dire charge DC feats, barb crit range and healing, and bard En Pointe, using true THF

With 23 ap you could pick up opportunity attack.

I guess it depends on the feats you already have.
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Reply #6 - Aug 1st, 2016 at 1:09am
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This is thread is a total circle jerk.
  
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Re: Barb Epic Riftmaker Build
Reply #7 - Aug 1st, 2016 at 1:31pm
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http://www.ddovault.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1416652172/391#391

Changes struck through. Feat order is not terribly important, you can take the THF line earlier.

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5FS's Second Pick Riftmaker (v3.1)


Race: Human/PDK
Alignment: Neutral
Class: 20 Barbarian


Stats:..........Level 1 (36 pt build)

Strength............18 (+ level ups)
Dexterity...........13 (+4 tome or better required) 8
Constitution.......17 18
Intelligence........10 12
Wisdom..............8
Charisma............8


Feat Progression

Level 1   : Power Attack, Weapon Focus
Level 3   : Weapon Focus
Level 6   : Completionist
Level 9   : Improved Critical-Piercing  Slash
Level 12 : Two Weapon Handed Fighting
Level 15 : Improved Two Weapon Handed Fighting
Level 18 : Greater Two Weapon Handed Fighting
Level 21 : Overwhelming Critical
Level 24 : Weapon Focus
Level 26 : Perfect Two Weapon Handed Fighting
Level 27 : Power Critical
Level 28 : First Blood Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
Level 29 : Harbinger Dire Charge
Level 30 : Epic DR
Level 30 : Arborea



Enhancements

Ravager: 36 AP

Core 4/6
Barbarian Power Attack 3/3
Ritual Scarring 3/3
Hardy Rage 3/3
Do You Like Pain? 3/3
Action Boost: Melee Power 3/3
I Like Pain 3/3
+1 Str
+1 Str
I Hit Back 3/3
Critical Rage 2/2
Blood Strength

Frenzied Berserker: 41 AP

Core 6/6
Die Harder 1/3
Power Rage 3/3
Extra Rage 3/3
Athletics 3/3
Blood Tribute 3/3
Blood Trail Mad Munitions 3/3
Supreme Cleave 3/3
Wade In Angry Arms 3/3
Sprint Boost 3/3
Extra Action Boost 3/3
+1 Con
+1 Con


Human: 3 AP

Damage Boost
Heal Amp

Epic Destiny: Divine Crusader

Purge the Wicked
Bane of Undeath
Interrogation
Endless Turning 1/3

Consecration 3/3
Confront Any Foe

Sacred Ground

Crusade
No Regret

Celestial Champion
Castigation
Heavenly Presence

Strike Down

Twists: 4/3/2/1/1

Sense Weakness
Balanced Attacks Something else...
Hail of Blows
Tunnel Vision
Extra AB


The DPS will be great, but with 1-2 shot deaths on LE, the heal over time nature of Blood Strength will not be helpful and there is no option for burst healing. It'll be a top build anywhere else, but in LE you will be frustrated unless you have a dedicated healer or are willing to play in rez fest mode.
  

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Re: Barb Epic Riftmaker Build
Reply #8 - Aug 1st, 2016 at 4:56pm
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5 Foot Step wrote on Aug 1st, 2016 at 1:31pm:

I'd swap focuses for cleaves, twist in some LD cleaves, and cleave away.
Maybe chaotic good for blessed blades.
  
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Re: Barb Epic Riftmaker Build
Reply #9 - Aug 1st, 2016 at 5:41pm
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crunch wrote on Aug 1st, 2016 at 4:56pm:
I'd swap focuses for cleaves, twist in some LD cleaves, and cleave away.
Maybe chaotic good for blessed blades.


It's already got 5 cleave buttons. How many do you need?
  

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Reply #10 - Aug 1st, 2016 at 5:54pm
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Riftmaker is only 17-20x4 or 12 crit factor on a pure barb, or 1.6 non-crit hits worth of damage.

Fighter makes it 17-20x5 or 16 crit factor.

En Pointe + Fighter is 5-20x4 or 48 crit factor, but is a double hit for 2-4x2 5-20x8 or 115 crit factor, or 7 non-crit hits worth of damage.

En Pointe + Druid is 1.8 hits for twf double hitting 5-20x3 for 2-4x3.6 5-20x10.8, for 9 non-crit hits worth of damage. Mmm forgot if it was a triple hit after druid or quad hit. I just remember it being very good with a LGS heavy ooze pick. The on vorpal proc damage would hit for 7-8k after balanced attacks and combat brute.

It's not the amount of cleaves, its the quality. Especially when some hit for 5x as much as others.
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Re: Barb Epic Riftmaker Build
Reply #11 - Aug 1st, 2016 at 7:42pm
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Well, I had already taken 12 based on the first reco, so I'm currently 11 barb/1 druid...don't really want to buy any wood...
  
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Reply #12 - Aug 1st, 2016 at 7:59pm
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Yah it all works out. 20 barb,  barb/fighter/druid/bard combos.

Could even do barb/fighter/druid. Lose en Pointe, gain twf Supreme Cleave with Riftmaker at 17-20x5. Depends on wether or not you have thf or twf feats already, just pick something that fits.
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Re: Barb Epic Riftmaker Build
Reply #13 - Aug 1st, 2016 at 8:32pm
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Currently up to greater thf with PA, cleave, and stunning blow...wouldn't be a problem to swap a couple though if needed
  
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Reply #14 - Aug 1st, 2016 at 9:03pm
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swap the thf to twf since you are doing druid route
  
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Reply #15 - Aug 1st, 2016 at 9:14pm
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So then go with 12 barb/6 bard/2 druid and switch to twf or back to original of 16/2/2?

  
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Reply #16 - Aug 1st, 2016 at 11:36pm
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12/6/2 with 6 as bard or fighter, twf ya
  
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Reply #17 - Aug 18th, 2016 at 3:17pm
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Heya when you get to epics, can you test out if the self damage from supreme cleave triggers echoes of the ancesters -

Shadowdancer: Gain a +1 Dexterity, a +2 to saving throws vs. traps and a 1d6 Sneak Attack damage bonus. In addition, every time you are hit, you have a 5% chance of being affected by Lingering Shadows for 4 seconds. Lingering Shadows grants you displacement, a +4 to hit and +2 damage, and +15% attack speed, but is removed if you are damaged. Lastly, you gain a +20% to the duration of your Songs.
  
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Reply #18 - Aug 20th, 2016 at 7:21pm
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Can do.
  
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Reply #19 - Aug 31st, 2016 at 12:43am
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16 barb 2 druid 2 bard

Enhancements
36 Ravager (crit rage/blood strength)
8 Swasbuckling En Pointe (AoE double attack)
13 FB Supreme Cleave
23 Free AP


Druid wolf form will convert riftmaker to twf on most newer special attacks like supreme cleave and En Pointe, which will mean they will double hit with it at Riftmaker's  crit profile.

This will give you strong single target wolf damage, and strong AoE THF damage at the same time.



I'm interested in trying something like this out. I always hear about wolf builds but haven't given them much thought until recently when I've been thinking about getting some more past lives.

This was sort of geared for TC, but for someone who is starting from level 1 what would be the optimal split and feat choice for pure zerging? I have 4 PL's at the moment and a +6 to all tome.
  
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Re: Barb Epic Riftmaker Build
Reply #20 - Aug 31st, 2016 at 4:18am
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vageta31 wrote on Aug 31st, 2016 at 12:43am:
I'm interested in trying something like this out. I always hear about wolf builds but haven't given them much thought until recently when I've been thinking about getting some more past lives.

This was sort of geared for TC, but for someone who is starting from level 1 what would be the optimal split and feat choice for pure zerging? I have 4 PL's at the moment and a +6 to all tome.


If you want  barbarian past life just go pure barbarian...they are really strong, trust me. No need to multiclass a barbarian...

They can zerg heroic content as good as any toon and crush legendary elite content...

Plus its a barbarian, they are fun to play!
  
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