What the fuck is wrong with the devs the game is stupid easy I am trying to introduce new players to the game the game is ruined by the other players.  Why can't the leader have a slider to make the game so it isn't fucking stupid.   I try to introduce new players to the game who will then pay money and buy things but I dont think the devs could make it any more difficult.   The game is fucking stupid until Legendary Elite

No, it's not.

Get new players to go Elite BB, not repeating any content, and I guarantee at least a dozen deaths by the time they reach 20. And that's assuming they use ranged/casters.

The game is stupid easy for completionists with dozens of PLs, gear, and most importantly, knowledge. All things new players will not have. Perhaps YOU are ruining the game for them by dragging them through content, or warning them of challenging encounters or deadly traps.

Who Cares wrote on Aug 29^th, 2016 at 1:48pm:

+1

no. wrote on Aug 29^th, 2016 at 1:34pm:


Mostly knowledge.  Where the traps are, how to kite, where to stand, how to pull singles or small groups, how to not just rush into a room to get surrounded and killed.

New players with 28 point characters and no past lives just won't survive traps on HE content.  The 'sliding scale' is to play at a lower difficulty level.

They don't know where the traps are, and they can't survive the damage they do on HE.  PRR and MRR from past lives absorbs that damage, and knowledge about the dungeons makes either finding and disarming far more possible, or loading up with consumables to just bull your way through them.

If you run with your friends, play a trapper but also try to teach them to trap for themselves.  Max your UMD for heal wands and rez scrolls, you'll need them.

To OP: your friends must be really special people if they are newbies and think LE is easy, because most people in the game, even if they play for over a year think LE content is challenging and they can't do shit in LE, thats why Shroud runs have been more popular these days than hard runs.

What I want is as grp leader to have a slider to increase crowned enemies etc   Right now I meet new players in the game but we want to grp w/ others as well which inevitably includes long time players.   I want to be able to increase difficulty accordingly for each quest so the game is not boring.  I posted here in hopes maybe they will see it and implement something to this effect.

Daggertooth wrote on Aug 30^th, 2016 at 6:41am:




Everyone knows that Turbine monitors the Vault for good ideas that they regularly implement. 

RAWR RAWR RAWRGITY RAWR

Since I've been rambling about city of heroes I'll mention their difficulty slider system here.

In COH if you wanted to you went to see an NPC security agent. There you could pick from -1 to +4 for the level of mobs compared to the party leader as well as 1-8 for party size adjustment. The truly mighty would run +4×8 solo to push themselves to their limits. Only a small fraction of even the best veterans could handle that solo.

The entire poi t of grouping is to reduce challenge. DDO fucked that up with auto dungeon scaling effecting mob stats rather then mob numbers. As we all know this has a domino effect which hurts anything g but DPS builds. DC checks end up climbing so spell casters and Trappists and really anything g using g the actual d20 system can go from no fail to never work.

We also know those who call for challenge don't really want that. Otherwise we would of never demanded reliable sources for max fort or death block or clickies for every possible circumstance. The idea preparation and meta gaming being able to  negate every lethal force we encounter kept the game hard for new comers and inevitably easier for those who put in time.

Unknown is challenge and the players have long lobbied to know everything and anything actually requiring brain cells to figure out is not tolerated. Let's look back at somethi g classic like the VoN chain.

Von 2 was always a fave for me in the early days. The fall mechanic and beholders helped force paying attention and not to depend on being buffed the mana eating oozes helped make wasteful casting foolish. But it was also largely easier by a large factor after you ran it a few times. I habitually sought out first timers to run with and would play dumb following their lead to enjoy their first time experiences.

Von 4 was much the same but they also fucked up with the way the wheels worked. The info to figure it out should of been in a lore tome in the dungeon guarded by a nasty group of mixed foes so diverse a bit of everything should of been required. It also should of hate a trap and lock to keep those skills in play. Only then should the trick to the wheels be found. And it should of been randomized for each wheel. So as to make doing the brute force try every combo too time consuming g to get through.

In other words meta gaming is what kills challenge in DDO. Its like playing a PNP module over and over in the same campaign setting with the DM never modding it to keep it interesting. I've DMd classics like keep on the borderland many times over the years often having players who have done it before. I always change things up and players who know me know not to count on previous experience.

karavek wrote on Aug 30^th, 2016 at 11:01am:


I don't agree with all of this, but I do agree with dungeon scaling being a poor idea.  I would rather that the difficulty be set for a full party and if you want to solo it, bring your big boy pants and A game.  Making dungeons easier for solo and duo is a mistake.  If you can't solo on elite, try a lower difficulty.

Asheras wrote on Aug 30^th, 2016 at 2:11pm:

Dungeon scaling was the second most boring thing to ever happen to this game.