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Reply #25 - Oct 27th, 2016 at 11:06am
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Reply #26 - Oct 27th, 2016 at 8:14pm
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Thanks for posting 5FS I was inspired so now I am working on Mauler of Silvanus, 6 pally/8  figther (ken)/ 6  monk (Hen).


Personally, I was contemplating a 12/6/2 fighter/fvs(maybe pally)/monk.  I already have a maul user anyway, and this lets you go Divine Might + Power Surge.
  
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Reply #27 - Oct 28th, 2016 at 10:26am
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WonderfulFoppyBint wrote on Oct 25th, 2016 at 5:47pm:
Checked the threat today. It is functioning as advertised.


Thanks for testing. Little bit lower DPS, but it was expected to be fixed and doesn't break the build.

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choco wrote on Oct 26th, 2016 at 11:09am:
would Zeal add another 10% to this?


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Improved bludgeoning critical is only stacking partially.

With blessing of Silvanus running with holy sword on one build, or with blessing running with the kensai 'keen edge and strike without out thought' buffs you still end up with a profile of 16-20X4 which isn't terrible but it sure ain't super amazing.

Many people were expecting something like 14-20X4.  Also please understand this is before ED's are brought to bear.

*please note number confirmed with actually strikes as opposed to the tool tip garbage.


I don't know what you're on about. I was expecting 15-20x4 with Improved Crit, Holy Sword, and Pulverizer in effect. That is still the best THF crit profile in the game that doesn't rely on a decrepit old procless great sword.
  

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Re: U33 Maul Pally
Reply #28 - Oct 28th, 2016 at 10:11pm
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5 Foot Step wrote on Oct 25th, 2016 at 5:50pm:
Str:
18 base
7 levels
17 enhancement
7 insight
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26 insight (divine might)
3 action surge
=111 str


A minor nit: you're counting two lots of insight bonus, which won't stack. Should be 104 str total.

Thanks for posting the build, I TRed a toon into a similar build after reading this.
  
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Re: U33 Maul Pally
Reply #29 - Oct 29th, 2016 at 10:44am
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bugblatterbeastoftraal wrote on Oct 28th, 2016 at 10:11pm:
A minor nit: you're counting two lots of insight bonus, which won't stack. Should be 104 str total.

Thanks for posting the build, I TRed a toon into a similar build after reading this.


Calculations corrected.
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Reply #30 - Nov 8th, 2016 at 11:03am
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Str:
18 base
7 levels
17 enhancement
4 quality
2 profane
1 exceptional
2 completionist
7 tome
2 ship
5 primal scream
1 kotc
1 human
6 strong defense
2 artifact
26 insight (divine might)
3 action surge
=104 str

Cha:
16 base
17 enhancement
4 quality
4 capstone
2 profane
1 exceptional (augment)
2 completionist
7 insight
7 tome
2 ship
1 AP
=63

MP:
70 blitz
30 epic levels
20 arborea
18 LD levels
8 enhancement
6 thf x3
6 wf x3
10 capstone
5 empowered smite
5 censure outsiders
4 artifact
12 mythic
=196


DS
9 pastlife
17 enhancement
10 sacred
5 ptwf
7 insight
3 twist
=51%


eSoS, for comparison

4.25[2d6]+16 enhancement+70 1.5str+10 pa+22 deadly+3 monk pl+3 divine favor+5 Advancing Blows= 158.75x2.2 (14-20x4+4 crit profile) = 349.25+36.8 (23 seeker) x 2.96 (MP) = 1142.708 x 1.51 (DS) = 1725.48908

plus procs:

94.56 SA + 7.84 Ruby + 72.52 light = 174.92 x 1.51 (DS) = 264.1292

plus Glancing Blows: 72.52 light and 60% of (base x MP = 469.9) on 75% of animations = 265.845
and 25% chance of 102.4 on 75% of animations = 19.2

= 2274.66328 average autoattack damage per animation w/ eSoS

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2374.017205 average autoattack damage per animation w/ t3 tf maul

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Re: U33 Maul Pally
Reply #31 - Nov 8th, 2016 at 3:12pm
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Reply #32 - Nov 8th, 2016 at 3:50pm
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Technomage wrote on Nov 8th, 2016 at 3:12pm:
It's ridiculous how relevant the ESoS still is.


Yeah, I was surprised it came out that close. It got a huge boost up from the recent gear power creep.
  

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Reply #33 - Nov 8th, 2016 at 3:58pm
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Technomage wrote on Nov 8th, 2016 at 3:12pm:
It's ridiculous how relevant the ESoS still is.


Simultaneously, it's ridiculous how irrelevant melee still is.
  
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Reply #34 - Nov 8th, 2016 at 6:13pm
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Simultaneously, it's ridiculous how irrelevant melee still is.

You like that Warlock Easy Button, huh? Figures.
  

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Reply #35 - Nov 13th, 2016 at 12:10am
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Technomage wrote on Nov 8th, 2016 at 3:12pm:
It's ridiculous how relevant the ESoS still is.



That's pretty shocking to me, but good to hear as well because I still have two of them in stock.
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Reply #36 - Nov 13th, 2016 at 11:15am
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I previously miscalculated the glancing blow damage, making eSoS appear a bit closer to TF that it should. My bad, fixed now. In recompense, I offer another calc:

Heroic SoS, for comparison

2.75[2d6]+11 enhancement+70 1.5str+10 pa+22 deadly+3 monk pl+3 divine favor+5 Advancing Blows= 143.25x2.2 (14-20x4+4 crit profile) = 315.15+36.8 (23 seeker) x 2.96 (MP) = 1041.772 x 1.51 (DS) = 1573.07572

plus procs:

94.56 SA + 72.52 light = 167.08 x 1.51 (DS) = 252.2908

plus Glancing Blows: 72.52 light and 60% of (base x MP = 424.02) on 75% of animations = 245.199
and 25% chance of 94.56 on 75% of animations = 17.73

= 2088.29552 average autoattack damage per animation w/ SoS

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2274.66328 average autoattack damage per animation w/ eSoS


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2374.017205 average autoattack damage per animation w/ t3 tf maul
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Reply #37 - Nov 13th, 2016 at 11:18am
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Reply #38 - Nov 13th, 2016 at 5:31pm
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5 Foot Step wrote on Nov 13th, 2016 at 11:15am:
I previously miscalculated the glancing blow damage, making eSoS appear a bit closer to TF that it should. My bad, fixed now. In recompense, I offer another calc:

Heroic SoS, for comparison

2.75[2d6]+11 enhancement+70 1.5str+10 pa+22 deadly+3 monk pl+3 divine favor+5 Advancing Blows= 143.25x2.2 (14-20x4+4 crit profile) = 315.15+36.8 (23 seeker) x 2.96 (MP) = 1041.772 x 1.51 (DS) = 1573.07572

plus procs:

94.56 SA + 72.52 light = 167.08 x 1.51 (DS) = 252.2908

plus Glancing Blows: 72.52 light and 60% of (base x MP = 424.02) on 75% of animations = 245.199
and 25% chance of 94.56 on 75% of animations = 17.73

= 2088.29552 average autoattack damage per animation w/ SoS

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2274.66328 average autoattack damage per animation w/ eSoS


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2374.017205 average autoattack damage per animation w/ t3 tf maul



That still looks like a pretty attractive whip progression to me, SoS 10-20, ESoS 20-27, TFmaul 28-30. Your break down is nice, thanks.
  
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Reply #39 - Nov 13th, 2016 at 6:45pm
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Hag Master wrote on Nov 13th, 2016 at 5:31pm:
That still looks like a pretty attractive whip progression to me, SoS 10-20, ESoS 20-27, TFmaul 28-30. Your break down is nice, thanks.


Whip?  Break down?  Yeah, you're a degenerate faggot all right.
  
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Reply #40 - Nov 13th, 2016 at 7:22pm
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Hag Master wrote on Nov 13th, 2016 at 5:31pm:
That still looks like a pretty attractive whip progression to me, SoS 10-20, ESoS 20-27, TFmaul 28-30. Your break down is nice, thanks.


Might as well add Carnifex 4-9,...I'm not doing math for that though.
  

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5 Foot Step wrote on Nov 13th, 2016 at 7:22pm:
Might as well add Carnifex 4-9,...I'm not doing math for that though.



I've got a few legacy lootgen items that I rotate though toons on the TR train that should do the trick. I did a quick skim of the build section 5FS, it looks like you have a pretty comprehensive take on the current build theory these days.
  
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a pretty comprehensive take on the current build theory these days.   


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Reply #45 - Nov 16th, 2016 at 10:55am
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Hag Master wrote on Nov 14th, 2016 at 3:45am:
I've got a few legacy lootgen items that I rotate though toons on the TR train that should do the trick. I did a quick skim of the build section 5FS, it looks like you have a pretty comprehensive take on the current build theory these days.   


DPS builds at least. We'll see if reaper changes that.
  

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5 Foot Step wrote on Nov 16th, 2016 at 10:55am:
DPS builds at least.


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Reply #47 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 12:19am
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5 Foot Step wrote on Nov 13th, 2016 at 11:15am:
I previously miscalculated the glancing blow damage, making eSoS appear a bit closer to TF that it should. My bad, fixed now. In recompense, I offer another calc:

Heroic SoS, for comparison

2.75[2d6]+11 enhancement+70 1.5str+10 pa+22 deadly+3 monk pl+3 divine favor+5 Advancing Blows= 143.25x2.2 (14-20x4+4 crit profile) = 315.15+36.8 (23 seeker) x 2.96 (MP) = 1041.772 x 1.51 (DS) = 1573.07572

plus procs:

94.56 SA + 72.52 light = 167.08 x 1.51 (DS) = 252.2908

plus Glancing Blows: 72.52 light and 60% of (base x MP = 424.02) on 75% of animations = 245.199
and 25% chance of 94.56 on 75% of animations = 17.73

= 2088.29552 average autoattack damage per animation w/ SoS

vs

2274.66328 average autoattack damage per animation w/ eSoS


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2374.017205 average autoattack damage per animation w/ t3 tf maul


Yeah, looks good and all but a more relevant question:

Can you twitch a maul like you can twitch eSoS (or Falchion)?
  

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Reply #48 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 12:52pm
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Finished my centered 8Ftr/6Monk/6Pal Mauler last night.

15-18x4, 19-20x7 crits.

Seeing some VERY nice numbers!
  

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Reply #49 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 12:58pm
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Technomage wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 12:52pm:
Finished my centered 8Ftr/6Monk/6Pal Mauler last night.

15-18x4, 19-20x7 crits.

Seeing some VERY nice numbers!


nice

Alex DeLarge wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 12:19am:
Yeah, looks good and all but a more relevant question:

Can you twitch a maul like you can twitch eSoS (or Falchion)?


if anyone could answer this, would be awesome.

I have no idea how to twitch. Interrupt after 3rd attack animation with a cleave?
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