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Re: Thrown crit bug left out of patch
Reply #25 - Oct 31st, 2016 at 11:02pm
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I'm just gonna say you're trolling now. This is some bizarre dance where you claim something is broken, when it isn't, and insult everyone who says otherwise while talking up your cabal of elite testers who somehow come to the opposite conclusion of everyone who didn't spend a week testing shit, cause you know hours of statistical analysis will tell you that 30 is a larger number than 50.

It's not a bad tactic. Most of all it makes people waste their time double-confirming shit they already know. I was nearly gonna record a video of my crits but then decided it wasn't worth my time. Usually when I want to troll I just start spamming SFW fetish porn but this is pretty good, but I gotta dock points for not also posting your build/weapon, you really could have had us going but you just couldn't wait to go into full-assfuck mode.
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Re: Thrown crit bug left out of patch
Reply #26 - Nov 1st, 2016 at 2:09am
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Trolling aside, can anyone confirm specifically that the ninja capstone +1xCrit multiplier is working?

It would be good to know that the only shuri thrower that doesn't work is a pure monk.
  
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Re: Thrown crit bug left out of patch
Reply #27 - Nov 1st, 2016 at 9:51am
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Sgtgig wrote on Oct 31st, 2016 at 11:02pm:
I'm just gonna say you're trolling now. This is some bizarre dance where you claim something is broken, when it isn't, and insult everyone who says otherwise while talking up your cabal of elite testers who somehow come to the opposite conclusion of everyone who didn't spend a week testing shit, cause you know hours of statistical analysis will tell you that 30 is a larger number than 50.

It's not a bad tactic. Most of all it makes people waste their time double-confirming shit they already know. I was nearly gonna record a video of my crits but then decided it wasn't worth my time. Usually when I want to troll I just start spamming SFW fetish porn but this is pretty good, but I gotta dock points for not also posting your build/weapon, you really could have had us going but you just couldn't wait to go into full-assfuck mode.


He is clearly trolling.  Just look at his posting in this thread:

https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/479820-Reaper-Preview-2-Run-Review-wit...

The same "You aren't worthy to share any information with.  You give me info and then I mock it.  I give no info and pretend that the devs give a shit what I say and that I have a cabal of elite testers on all servers, none of whom I will reveal.  Nor will we share our data.  But don't worry I'm on the case.  You can sleep well tonight that I will right all the wrongs for you."  Condescending liar is all I see here.  You don't have a canadian girlfriend that is a super model and you don't have any credibility or past track record to support your claims of quality testing or dev involvement.  It's all a big troll.  Well played, honestly.  Got me to post a few times. 

Here is, from that thread, his allmighty, super reliable, vetted, expert testing methodology, btw:

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That is absolute hogwash Severlin, hogwash.

Allow me to suggest exactly how you and ANYONE else can reproduce the problem with the very least amount of time and hassle.

Simply do the following:

1-start a vet lev bard, or iconic with 5 bard levels
2-invest 6 points in the swashbuckler tree to get the second core, swashbuckling stance
3-buy 500 shurkien or any other throwing weapon
4-toggle on swashbuckling
5-throw weapon until you confirm a critical,
6-write down the damage
7-do this 10 times
8-toggle off swashbuckling
9-repeat steps 5-7
10- average the damage of the ten confirmed criticals with and without swashbuckling on
11-compare the two averages


Now of course you should really do at least 200-500 crits for a really good benchmark, but just following those simple steps will prove that the thrown critical bug is alive and well. For those folks who enjoy themselves, take the time and do it with as many Crit multiple buff classes/abilities as you have access to. Try ninja master, 3rd core Kensai, swash buckling, holy sword, .... try as many as you have time and you will find that IN EVERY INSTANCE the crit multiplier buff is NOT BEING APPLIED TO THROWN WEAPONS.

Is that clear enough for you Severlin? or is it 'too vague' still? and BTW how exactly did you confirm it was working? how many confirmed crits damage did you average together?


Lol.  Wish I had seen this before posting yesterday.  Total /fail on his part. 

OK.  I'm out on this troll topic.  Cya.
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Re: Thrown crit bug left out of patch
Reply #28 - Nov 8th, 2016 at 3:43pm
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No son, that is not our full-on testing anyone who actually took the time to read the thread instead of skimming for slant would have been able to tell you I made that post in response to Severlin's coy attempts to dodge the issue him not actually testing live. What was outlined in the post? that was the very minimum testing steps that I outlined for Severlin and others unfamiliar with testing. Notice where I said "you should really do at least 200-500 crits"? Or did you notice it and then try to ignore my actual words so you could craft yourself a exit-post from this thread you had dug yourself a hole that was too deep? I've seen on the mains you have Cordovan and the other blindmen to bail you out when you trip yourself up with blind zealotry, but here in this place I see you need to actively ignore words to try to get out.

Anyone who reads that thread will see that even in the midst of all the poo-poo'ing and damage control all the other blindmen threw at me not one could post a list of a measly 10 crits much less decent 200 and a average. The most anyone posted was 3 crits, that's right 3 little crits out series of ten shots, not even taking the time to run a series of ten CRITS.  They avoided it because just like Severlin they are more interested in saying that a bug is fixed then it being fixed.


Last thing, as a public service I'm calling you out as a self-important liar now. You sadly tried to claim the following to make yourself look like a big shot: "I know who you are In game and who your son is".  Yet when I clearly and publicly challenged you to post that and prove it what were you forced to do?  Well instead of posting our toon names like you claimed, you predictably had to try to spin-doctor your way out of the thread post-haste because you had been caught telling a lie so you could try and feel important and special. The same reason you wanted to be on the PC I imagine.
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Re: Thrown crit bug left out of patch
Reply #29 - Nov 8th, 2016 at 4:07pm
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No son, that is not our full-on testing anyone who actually took the time to read the thread instead of skimming for slant would have been able to tell you I made that post in response to Severlin's coy attempts to dodge the issue him not actually testing live. What was outlined in the post? that was the very minimum testing steps that I outlined for Severlin and others unfamiliar with testing. Notice where I said "you should really do at least 200-500 crits"? Or did you notice it and then try to ignore my actual words so you could craft yourself a exit-post from this thread you had dug yourself a hole that was too deep? I've seen on the mains you have Cordovan and the other blindmen to bail you out when you trip yourself up with blind zealotry, but here in this place I see you need to actively ignore words to try to get out.

Anyone who reads that thread will see that even in the midst of all the poo-poo'ing and damage control all the other blindmen threw at me not one could post a list of a measly 10 crits much less decent 200 and a average. The most anyone posted was 3 crits, that's right 3 little crits out series of ten shots, not even taking the time to run a series of ten CRITS.  They avoided it because just like Severlin they are more interested in saying that a bug is fixed then it being fixed.


Last thing, as a public service I'm calling you out as a self-important liar now. You sadly tried to claim the following to make yourself look like a big shot: "I know who you are In game and who your son is".  Yet when I clearly and publicly challenged you to post that and prove it what were you forced to do?  Well instead of posting our toon names like you claimed, you predictably had to try to spin-doctor your way out of the thread post-haste because you had been caught telling a lie so you could try and feel important and special. The same reason you wanted to be on the PC I imagine. 


Quit getting trolled so hard; I mean really, who gives a fuck?
  
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Re: Thrown crit bug left out of patch
Reply #30 - Nov 9th, 2016 at 1:01am
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No son, that is not our full-on testing anyone who actually took the time to read the thread instead of skimming for slant would have been able to tell you I made that post in response to Severlin's coy attempts to dodge the issue him not actually testing live. What was outlined in the post? that was the very minimum testing steps that I outlined for Severlin and others unfamiliar with testing. Notice where I said "you should really do at least 200-500 crits"? Or did you notice it and then try to ignore my actual words so you could craft yourself a exit-post from this thread you had dug yourself a hole that was too deep? I've seen on the mains you have Cordovan and the other blindmen to bail you out when you trip yourself up with blind zealotry, but here in this place I see you need to actively ignore words to try to get out.

Anyone who reads that thread will see that even in the midst of all the poo-poo'ing and damage control all the other blindmen threw at me not one could post a list of a measly 10 crits much less decent 200 and a average. The most anyone posted was 3 crits, that's right 3 little crits out series of ten shots, not even taking the time to run a series of ten CRITS.  They avoided it because just like Severlin they are more interested in saying that a bug is fixed then it being fixed.


Last thing, as a public service I'm calling you out as a self-important liar now. You sadly tried to claim the following to make yourself look like a big shot: "I know who you are In game and who your son is".  Yet when I clearly and publicly challenged you to post that and prove it what were you forced to do?  Well instead of posting our toon names like you claimed, you predictably had to try to spin-doctor your way out of the thread post-haste because you had been caught telling a lie so you could try and feel important and special. The same reason you wanted to be on the PC I imagine. 


I want you to mathematically show that everyone only doing a few dozen crits, like I did, are full of shit and should have had a larger sample size. You can't just pull a suggested n value out of your ass and claim anyone who doesn't approach it has useless/incomplete data. There are methods to choosing sample sizes.

you might also want to take a look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Range_(statistics) , which is the entire reason I don't believe the bug exists despite not calculating a mean. The range of my non-swash crits and the range of my swash crits weren't even close to overlapping. Because of that, I don't really need to do any further tests. This is an incredibly simple concept.
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