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Nov 18th, 2016 at 6:35pm
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Is it still a top end build or have they neutered it fully now?
  
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Reply #1 - Nov 19th, 2016 at 12:20am
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It was never a "top end build" you stupid fuck, it's an abomination designed to exploit a very particular glitch.
  
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Reply #2 - Nov 19th, 2016 at 1:02am
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[] wrote on Nov 19th, 2016 at 12:20am:
It was never a "top end build"



Oh Martin, such a silly boy.
  
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Reply #3 - Nov 19th, 2016 at 6:24am
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[] wrote on Nov 19th, 2016 at 12:20am:
It was never a "top end build" you stupid fuck, it's an abomination designed to exploit a very particular glitch.


I don't know mang, the devs re-legitimized Fury Shot. They could go the way of Eve online and say Wolves and Trees are a legit expression of the rules they wrote. Just bump up the numbers for balance.
  
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Reply #4 - Nov 19th, 2016 at 8:19am
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Grand wrote on Nov 18th, 2016 at 6:35pm:
Is it still a top end build or have they neutered it fully now? 


Still the supreme melee dps, but can be a bit of a glass cannon
  
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Reply #5 - Nov 19th, 2016 at 9:35am
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It's nothing more than worthless flavor, designed to show off meh 'sploits.
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Re: Wolfs post U33
Reply #6 - Nov 19th, 2016 at 9:36am
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Vaultaccount wrote on Nov 19th, 2016 at 8:19am:
Still the supreme melee dps, but can be a bit of a glass cannon


This.  Basically.

The attack rate is sick.  They don't have the big crits that some other builds do, so the burst damage is a little less, but make up for it with speed.  Tend to lack some AoE dps options when clearing trash.  Their single target/boss DPS is stellar. 

The biggest weakness is probably that they don't get great AC, PRR, MRR, Saves, or HP going.  They do have decent self healing.

  
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Reply #7 - Nov 19th, 2016 at 9:40am
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Asheras wrote on Nov 19th, 2016 at 9:36am:
They do have decent self healing.


...which doesn't make a dick of difference in the one-shot end-game era.  Keep playing: one day, you'll figure it out.
  
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Reply #8 - Nov 19th, 2016 at 3:27pm
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the highest sustained melee dps. capable of (if spec'd)sub 20 second red named kobold kill times. roughly 25k dps.
  

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Reply #9 - Nov 19th, 2016 at 7:40pm
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Vaultaccount wrote on Nov 19th, 2016 at 8:19am:
Still the supreme melee dps, but can be a bit of a glass cannon



Asheras wrote on Nov 19th, 2016 at 9:36am:
This.  Basically.

The attack rate is sick.  They don't have the big crits that some other builds do, so the burst damage is a little less, but make up for it with speed.  Tend to lack some AoE dps options when clearing trash.  Their single target/boss DPS is stellar. 

The biggest weakness is probably that they don't get great AC, PRR, MRR, Saves, or HP going.  They do have decent self healing.




Rubbinns wrote on Nov 19th, 2016 at 3:27pm:
the highest sustained melee dps. capable of (if spec'd)sub 20 second red named kobold kill times. roughly 25k dps. 



Sounds like it's time to howl for a life.







[] wrote on Nov 19th, 2016 at 12:20am:
It was never a "top end build" you stupid fuck,



Cool story bro.
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Vaultaccount wrote on Nov 19th, 2016 at 8:19am:
Still the supreme melee dps, but can be a bit of a glass cannon



^This right here. I've 2 Wolfs I do most of my serious grinding with.
  
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Reply #11 - Nov 21st, 2016 at 9:06am
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[] wrote on Nov 19th, 2016 at 9:40am:
...which doesn't make a dick of difference in the one-shot end-game era.  Keep playing: one day, you'll figure it out.


Spoken like a guy who hasn't played the current end-game era.  If you did, you'd know why your comment was so incorrect. 
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Reply #12 - Nov 21st, 2016 at 9:23am
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Asheras wrote on Nov 21st, 2016 at 9:06am:
Spoken like a guy who hasn't played the current end-game era.  If you did, you'd know why your comment was so incorrect. 



I don't think he would know even if he still played TBH.
  
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Reply #13 - Nov 23rd, 2016 at 12:49pm
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Asheras wrote on Nov 21st, 2016 at 9:06am:
Spoken like a guy who hasn't played the current end-game era.  If you did, you'd know why your comment was so incorrect. 


Something is either correct, or incorrect; it's binary.  Since there are no degrees or scale of "correct", applying "so" is (by definition) a misplaced modifier.  Clearly, you're the product of a very public education, you stupid fuck.
  
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Reply #14 - Nov 23rd, 2016 at 1:06pm
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[] wrote on Nov 23rd, 2016 at 12:49pm:
Something is either correct, or incorrect; it's binary.  Since there are no degrees or scale of "correct", applying "so" is (by definition) a misplaced modifier.  Clearly, you're the product of a very public education, you stupid fuck.


While the statement is binary, it is accepted vernacular to use the "so" to express magnitude.  If you make $4.50 per hour at McDonalds, then, if said you made $5 per hour, that would be incorrect.  However, if I said you made $15 per hour, this would also be incorrect and even further from the correct amount.  To describe such a larger deviance, a modifier can be applied to the "incorrect" to describe the magnitude of the erroneous statement.

Clearly, such complexity is beyond you and the limited Puerto Rican education system and ignorant upbringing.  Luckily for you, grammar isn't a core skill requirement for day laborers or fast food workers.
  
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Reply #15 - Nov 23rd, 2016 at 1:10pm
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Asheras wrote on Nov 23rd, 2016 at 1:06pm:
While the statement is binary, it is accepted vernacular to use the "so" to express magnitude.  If you make $4.50 per hour at McDonalds, then, if said you made $5 per hour, that would be incorrect.  However, if I said you made $15 per hour, this would also be incorrect and even further from the correct amount.  To describe such a larger deviance, a modifier can be applied to the "incorrect" to describe the magnitude of the erroneous statement.

Clearly, such complexity is beyond you and the limited Puerto Rican education system and ignorant upbringing.  Luckily for you, grammar isn't a core skill requirement for day laborers or fast food workers.   


Your example is very riddled with so inaccurate uses of syntax, grammer, punctuation, basic subject-verb agreement-or lack there of-that it's totally laughable.  You type like Meat-Head's wife: a ditzy, highschool dropout that decided to suck some fat fuck's cock for life, instead of pursuing an education and starting a career.
  
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Reply #16 - Nov 23rd, 2016 at 2:31pm
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[] wrote on Nov 23rd, 2016 at 1:10pm:
Your example is very riddled with so inaccurate uses of syntax, grammer, punctuation, basic subject-verb agreement-or lack there of-that it's totally laughable.  You type like Meat-Head's wife: a ditzy, highschool dropout that decided to suck some fat fuck's cock for life, instead of pursuing an education and starting a career.


Lol.  Your only come back is vague grammar nazi comments mixed with homophobic slurs?

Sad.
  
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Reply #17 - Nov 23rd, 2016 at 2:33pm
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Asheras wrote on Nov 23rd, 2016 at 2:31pm:
Lol.  Your only come back is vague grammar nazi comments mixed with homophobic slurs?

Sad. 


Where, except in your mind, is there any faggot shit in my statement; faggot?
  
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Asheras wrote on Nov 23rd, 2016 at 2:31pm:
Lol.  Your only come back is vague grammar nazi comments mixed with homophobic slurs?

Sad. 



Yes, very sad.
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Reply #19 - Nov 23rd, 2016 at 10:50pm
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What's the preferred split on a Wolf these days?

I've never rolled one myself but I'm kicking around the idea for an alt.

Basically I wanna know how much gear i can save myself from grinding.

  

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Reply #20 - Nov 23rd, 2016 at 11:48pm
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Metal-Beast wrote on Nov 23rd, 2016 at 10:50pm:
What's the preferred split on a Wolf these days?

I've never rolled one myself but I'm kicking around the idea for an alt.

Basically I wanna know how much gear i can save myself from grinding.



Skip it: it's only designed to take advantage of an exploit where special weapon effects stay on when you switch between them in wolf form.  In theory, you could cycle through an astoundingly wide array of weapons and keep all their damage effects active, even after you swap out weapons and move on to others.  The glitch only works in wolf form, and without that, the "build" is complete shit.  It's pretty good with it, but I'd still prefer ranged or arcane DPS; much more survivable.
  
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Reply #21 - Nov 23rd, 2016 at 11:48pm
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Metal-Beast wrote on Nov 23rd, 2016 at 10:50pm:
What's the preferred split on a Wolf these days?

I've never rolled one myself but I'm kicking around the idea for an alt.

Basically I wanna know how much gear i can save myself from grinding.



assuming all builds go harrier and killer +  swf/twf and DoD.

11/6/3monk for highest dps.
includes a lot of monk ki attacks and is fastest red named time in a vacuum.

10/6/4ftr for stance.

12rogue/5/3druid for more dps than fighter splashes due to higher sneak attack while having slightly higher defenses than monk variant. And no need to rotate monk ki attacks.

check 5's thread for his gear layouts.
  

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Reply #22 - Nov 24th, 2016 at 3:17am
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Rubbinns wrote on Nov 23rd, 2016 at 11:48pm:
assuming all builds go harrier and killer +  swf/twf and DoD.

11/6/3monk for highest dps.
includes a lot of monk ki attacks and is fastest red named time in a vacuum.

10/6/4ftr for stance.

12rogue/5/3druid for more dps than fighter splashes due to higher sneak attack while having slightly higher defenses than monk variant. And no need to rotate monk ki attacks.

check 5's thread for his gear layouts.



If I could get wolf stats/dps/speed but in the bear animation I would be all over that.
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Reply #23 - Nov 24th, 2016 at 10:14am
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Rubbinns wrote on Nov 23rd, 2016 at 11:48pm:
assuming all builds go harrier and killer +  swf/twf and DoD.

11/6/3monk for highest dps.
includes a lot of monk ki attacks and is fastest red named time in a vacuum.

10/6/4ftr for stance.

12rogue/5/3druid for more dps than fighter splashes due to higher sneak attack while having slightly higher defenses than monk variant. And no need to rotate monk ki attacks.

check 5's thread for his gear layouts.



How about 10 druid/ 6 ranger/ 4 Warlock- 4 Warlock for Spiritual Retribution? -3d6 light dmg that scales with spell power on each hit, so maybe 12d6 extra dmg per hit with a Wolf's attack speed and doublestrikes. Crap idea? idk
  
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Reply #24 - Nov 24th, 2016 at 11:49am
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OSeanessy wrote on Nov 24th, 2016 at 10:14am:
3d6 light dmg that scales with spell power on each hit, so maybe 12d6 extra dmg per hit with a Wolf's attack speed and doublestrikes.


Monk is better than warlock.

fists of light now does 4d6 light dmg that scales. And there is fist of iron or other monk elemental ki strikes that will also scale with Melee Power. Saves the build from having to slot radiance aug/item. I believe deft strikes 10% off hand is working. Cant be conclusive until lama goes up again and deft strike is tested against non-deft set up. Few small things like twisting dance of flowers and 5% movement speed as well.

  

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