harharharhar wrote on Dec 21^st, 2016 at 7:49pm:


Never. They haven't even started and aren't going to, they know what side their bread is buttered on.

Frank wrote on Dec 21^st, 2016 at 9:30pm:

I got the conditional.  As usual, you completely missed the point though.  The point was, you're an idiot for making a "conditional" statement for something Turbine had definitively answered two days prior just to try and be one of the cool kids.

What next?  Are you going to speculate on some stuff from the MotU release?

As always, you're way behind the curve.   Please try harder to keep up.

Digimonk wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 12:18am:


noamineo wrote on Dec 21^st, 2016 at 11:54pm:

Even in the absence of any legal issues, isn't DDO based on the same code as AC?  If it is, releasing the source could be a really excellent way for them to open up DDO for more hacking and exploits.

So, do we get to start calling the ex-turbine folks SS now?  "The SS banned me" "The SS purged by bank toon with exxxtreme prejudice "

noamineo wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 11:03am:

Why exactly do you think that releasing source code won't possibly lead to exploits?  Not releasing the code has certainly allowed plenty of exploits, so it can't be argued that releasing the code can't possibly change that for the better.  Once you know how exactly how something works it is far easier to break it, and that cannot be denied.

Frank wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 7:23am:

noamineo wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 11:03am:


Yes, it's like trying to explain architecture to a dog who happens to design industrial buildings for a living. But he's just a dog, and you know buildings because you live in one.

I like you, noamineo, but what the fuck is dissolving your brain, did you pop Molly and stare glassy eyed and slack jawed at the mobos until they started to make sense to you? You sound like a fanboi claiming that it must be impossible for Turbine to do whatever it is they aren't doing, and it's just too complex for us to understand. Do you have a picture of Holleyeyes pinned over your bed now, too?

Where are you getting this lawsuit crap, a Facebook news story? In Oracle V Google, the courts found that even releasing the whole header files wasn't infringing, and I said don't even go that far, just list the includes. Cisco V Arista couldn't make infringement stick and Arista copied their command line interface.

Unless Turbine sells the whole product, and you have yet to show me any indication that happened, they own their source and can release it, even if they licensed out their code. I can buy a book and the author can still sell it to somebody else, or make it available for free. They won't get sales after that if they make it free, but I can't sue them because I paid.

So show me some indication that there is a real cause for a lawsuit, or shut your uninformed fanboi blatherhole. Really, I can get Turbine apologist drivel from the mobos, I don't need to come here and hear it from you. They aren't refusing to do it because they can't, they're refusing to do it at worst because they don't give a shit about their customers, or at best because the code might lead to exploits in DDO. Lawsuits 

Meursault wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 10:07pm:

But wait!  Ben Carson ran for President, lost the nomination to Trump, declared himself incompetent to run a department of the government, and then accepted the appointment as Secretary of Housing and Urban Development under Trump.

I'd rather have a dog who lives in a building in that office.  Because dogs are cool, and Carson is a tool.

Toke wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 10:14am:


don't we say that now?  that STUPID SHIT (SS) jerry banned me!

noamineo wrote on Dec 21^st, 2016 at 11:54pm:


Yes, but not just the legal side, I was also refering to this :

Frank wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 7:23am:



The whole point is that releasing the source code opens a legal can of worms that Standing Stones is probably not ready to open.
( and just as side note on the legal can of worm, maybe WB wanted to keep the AC IP in house while killing the MMO so that they could make a mobile game out of it [ I Know it's far fetched ] )

But it also open the can of worms where people, by looking at the code from AC will be able to create tools/hacks for DDO and LoTRo, as there's ample proof basic underlying system is the same. ( DAT files, ... Open World [ Yes Yes, even DDO, you just need to look hard enough to notice it... the only real instances are when the /loc say cInside ], and so on. )
Now I don't expect it could lead to more exploits in the sense we all think here... but knowing the loot table of all the chests,, knowing the spawn rates of some mobs, and knowing the relevant stats of said mob might bring some interesting time to the game.

noamineo wrote on Dec 24^th, 2016 at 3:33pm:


In the history of the game there have been various ways to enter the sky plane unbounded to an instance. I never found an excellent exploit associated with 2 ways I had access, but I did get to explore the 2500ish squared open world that instances are hosted on.

It's like Minecraft looking in at various quests.

According to my knowledge, there's still one or two spots where you can go beyond the invisible walls.

m4lacka wrote on Dec 25^th, 2016 at 9:36am: