tapster wrote on Feb 7^th, 2017 at 9:39am:


Not on the champs, their deathward is a property not a spell so dispel don't touch it.

WonderfulFoppyBint wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 10:07pm:

I have found the ender set to be pretty horrible. That combined with the steep cost for maintaining full dps on a shiradi build (spamming ruin/gruin) - I've swapped to primarily playing my furythrower for dps. Sense Weakness + burst damage + ips -> its actually quite fun. And I don't have to chug 50-70 pots for a single 10 skull dungeon.

I also think that charms are way over performing. Misadventure has been mvp of a lot of my recent runs . Still haven't decided if I like sorc or lock better for a dc caster - atm I'm leaning lock just because the instakills are straight up broken.

WonderfulFoppyBint wrote on Feb 11^th, 2017 at 10:22pm:



How long do charms last in epic/legendary?

Ran some 5 skull last night, and throwing charm before hold is kinda funny as some mobs will beat up others.   It doesn't last long, but it's worth casting still.

Mass charm has to be OP in Heroics

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Play something other than R1 then you say this again

Vaultaccount wrote on Feb 15^th, 2017 at 7:33am:



Do you suffer from brain damage or penis envy? 


We were talking about charm in heroics and how it doesn't work because of the delay or at least that was my point. I run my Bard in 5-9 skull and he is a absolute beast because of my armies of charmed mobs beating the shit out of everything.

Most OP reaper shit.....don't play it.

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It would be quite difficult for an abortion to be thick-skulled.  That is something to be proud of if accomplished.

Vaultaccount wrote on Feb 15^th, 2017 at 7:33am:


Problem with sorc base is that you can't splash a defensive class on it (monk, pally). This means that you can't be fleshie - have to be undead. Also defenses are a lot lower. Undead healing is a bitch in reaper.

Also there's a lot of debate about the sorc version vs the wiz/fvs/lock version. While the sorc version destroyed in terms of aoe content, it had lower single target dps. Also now that hellball doesn't work for mok, the extra caster levels in arcane blast are nice.

Still imo shiradis aren't great atm.

hydra wrote on Feb 15^th, 2017 at 3:54pm:

how? On any rotation the sorc comes out ahead in casts.

wiz fm per 10 seconds is 2 and half casts, sorc gets 4 casts

wiz mm per 10 seconds is 5 casts, sorc gets 6 casts

same goes for any other spells included in rotation.

hydra wrote on Feb 15^th, 2017 at 3:54pm:

you can be fleshie and you get the same healing that wiz version has, unless comparing to the pally splashed versions gaining slightly more devotion from per point spent in defender.

Digimonk wrote on Feb 15^th, 2017 at 5:47pm:



Double OMG, how bad are you guys at reading? Conflating? really? really really? did you just rush right through the posts so you could say what you wanted without fucking reading the posts and actually understanding my point?

My bard charmer and other charmers are only okay in heroic quests.  That is because in non-reaper the other player dps is so bad ass that they are chewing up mobs before I can even get around to charming them, and when I do charm them it is a pain in the ass because everyone is waiting around for me to dismiss it because we are zerging through content in heroic. (including heroic, epic, legendary... duh...)

Meanwhile (as I have repeated numerous fucking times now guys..) My charmer are kicking ass in any reaper over say 3skulls because  the mobs that I charm are hitting harder then the debuff'd players and they are incredibly helpful in completing quests.

Got it?

-In heroic, epic, legendary, Charmer = blah

-In 3skull or higher Reaper, Charmer =  Yippee!


You and the other reading comp fails need to either learn to read or maybe stop eating lead paint. Yikes!

Vaultaccount wrote on Feb 15^th, 2017 at 7:10pm:



Wrong! you would have actually had to have started reading to be able to stop reading. I love how you try to throw it back on me that you didn't have a fucking clue LMFAO. You were so eager to try and post that you hopped in and totally didn't understand the conversation that so far above your head, priceless.  Watching you try to contribute would be painful if it wasn't so gosh darn funny to watch you repeatedly try and requalify your position and alter your stance, you're a very funny guy! Shame you can't play.

Now one more time for the record and to get back on track as you keep trying to make it about your feels:  Charmers work wonders in Reaper runs at 3Skulls and higher, which is ironic because they are shit in normal non-reaper play.  In other news VA is want's to belong sooo badly. LOL.

hydra wrote on Feb 15^th, 2017 at 6:14pm:

Can give up chain missile sla and take 11 sorc. 11/5/4. loses chain miss sla and is adding burst, aura, FM for 4th level spells and 2nd DoT for your 5th level. Not really a need to do that unless you really wanted more single target dps.

But even without the FM in rotation there really isnt much else to throw into the shiradis.

MM
Scorching Ray(if not fire immune)
Frost Lance(if not cold immune)
Arcane Pulse dot every 3.

The rest of the spells are filler :
Nimbus of Light to keep up empyrean once every 10 seconds.
Arcane Bolt for MoK stacks every 10 seconds.
DoT every 10 seconds(2 dots if wizard).
Maybe Melf's every 12.
TR missiles.
Ruins.

Even without FM the sorc version puts up more missiles and rays over time. This adds up to 6 MM every 9 seconds vs 5 mm every 10 seconds for wizards. Ray is 4 casts every 7 seconds vs 4 casts every 10 seconds for wizards. Not much in short rotations but over the course of 50 seconds the sorc has cast an extra 10+ spells.


hydra wrote on Feb 15^th, 2017 at 6:14pm:

Fleshie would be best way to heal for reaper and the pally splash wins out ahead for survival from defender stance. But the sorc version is still ahead in dps

warlock splashed is 70 more spell power. Possibly slightly more power since not using pale tree in reaper and getting more ap for warlock trees.

For overall performance in reaper I would rank them

Wiz Pally
Sorc
Wiz lock