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Re: Full Retard Reaper Tactics Tank Theory
Reply #25 - Feb 9th, 2017 at 6:41pm
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Asheras wrote on Feb 9th, 2017 at 2:26pm:
I find this discussion interesting. 

So theory build 1:  PDK, combine both the Fighter and Pally defender trees, using the stances from Stalwart and the tier 5 from sacred. 

theory build 2:  wraith PM/EK/? to get wraith concealment, EK mage armor and PRR, mixed with one of the defender trees?  Is this an evasion/dodge kind of build or more of a heavy armor shield build?

What does theory build 2 look like?  I'd like to see more about that.   


Build 2, as Over mentioned, is crazy good. I grp with him on cannith from time to time, and he really really shines, especially when he partners with his buddy who is an aura cleric off tank better than most main tanks...

I won't go into too much details of his build as it is not my place to share the details, but I can say it is insanely effective even at 10 skull quests...
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Re: Full Retard Reaper Tactics Tank Theory
Reply #26 - Feb 10th, 2017 at 8:10am
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zoriaan wrote on Feb 9th, 2017 at 6:41pm:
Build 2, as Over mentioned, is crazy good. I grp with him on cannith from time to time, and he really really shines, especially when he partners with his buddy who is an aura cleric off tank better than most main tanks...

I won't go into too much details of his build as it is not my place to share the details, but I can say it is insanely effective even at 10 skull quests...


That's fine.  Keep it to yourselves.  The only thing worth discussing in the Builds section are...actual builds that people are willing to post and discuss in detail.   

  
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Re: Full Retard Reaper Tactics Tank Theory
Reply #27 - Feb 10th, 2017 at 8:14am
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Metal-Beast wrote on Feb 9th, 2017 at 5:01pm:
Did they not nerf this so that Helf Social Skills all shared a cool down now?


No.  You are thinking of the damage boost enhancements from the Human, PDK, and BF racial enhancement trees. 

The Helf Social skills is a racial trait granted to the race at creation.
  
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Reply #28 - Feb 10th, 2017 at 4:32pm
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5 Foot Step wrote on Feb 8th, 2017 at 6:18pm:
CC Trinket (Sheltering 38, Fort 159, Ins Cha +7)

I'd swap this for Legendary Empowered Dragonscale - (Trinket) - Quality Constitution +4Quality Constitution +4: This item gives the wearer improved health, granting a +4 quality bonus to Constitution., Hit Points +68, Insightful Fortitude Save +6, Fire Resistance +68, Green Augment Slot

CC can give +7 Insight stat, so the Slaver's Trinket only brings +1 Insight to Con.  CC can't bring quality con, and tops out at 57 False Life.

And replace this also:
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Circle of Malevolence (Resistance 12, Incite 45, Intim 25, Vitality 40, I Sheltering 5, 2 slots, +3 mythic, +3 reaper)

There are higher Vitality items, or you can just slot the 40 for equal value.  CC or Slaver's rings would be better here.

Insight/Intim are high enough, and they don't work at all against bosses who just randomly rampage and ignore them anyway.
  

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Re: Full Retard Reaper Tactics Tank Theory
Reply #29 - Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:53pm
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Vaultaccount wrote on Feb 8th, 2017 at 6:49pm:
Dire charge is very useful when the cc fails. CC is never enough on reaper. Dire charge usually is at no fail DCs, and only a few mobs are immune to it, unlike traditional cc. Very useful feat.


Intimidate is a CC. Its great.


The funny thing about this thread is how FFS ripped off Seagryn's Magic Turtle Tank, and then posted a tank with 2k hp. What a scrub. Of course a couple fuckwits eat his inane rat-fink garbage builds.

He's so pathetic he doesn't even have a build and feels the need to post one. Typical for FFS.

If he had balls he would have posted on the other thread with with three FUCKING words...

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would cc work?


That would have been enough you fucking moron. That would have been enough. The answer is  given to you in the second post on this thread. The quality here is pretty low dude. I expect more.

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Re: Full Retard Reaper Tactics Tank Theory
Reply #30 - Feb 11th, 2017 at 10:00pm
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...because FFS jerks himself off with all his builds.
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Reply #31 - Feb 11th, 2017 at 10:03pm
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WonderfulFoppyBint wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:53pm:
The funny thing about this thread is how FFS ripped off Seagryn's Magic Turtle Tank, and then posted a tank with 2k hp. What a scrub. Of course you idiots eat his inane garbage.

He's so pathetic he doesn't even have a build and feels the need to post one. Typical for FFS.

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Reply #32 - Feb 13th, 2017 at 10:39am
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Rubbinns wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 10:03pm:
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Reply #33 - Feb 13th, 2017 at 12:48pm
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WonderfulFoppyBint wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:53pm:
The funny thing about this thread is how FFS ripped off Seagryn's Magic Turtle Tank, and then posted a tank with 2k hp. What a scrub. Of course a couple fuckwits eat his inane rat-fink garbage builds.
To be fair, that ac stacking concept was posted on shithole DDO forums way earlier - in that "Elven steel maiden" thread.
Screenshots and all, which is quite refreshing because most "discussions" are litanies and "theorycrafting" about builds people don't actually play themselves.
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Reply #34 - Feb 13th, 2017 at 1:15pm
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Asheras wrote on Feb 10th, 2017 at 8:10am:
That's fine.  Keep it to yourselves.  The only thing worth discussing in the Builds section are...actual builds that people are willing to post and discuss in detail.   



I would assume it's heavy armor build, but I'd be interested in more details as well Smiley
  
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Reply #35 - Feb 13th, 2017 at 2:28pm
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painkiller wrote on Feb 13th, 2017 at 1:15pm:
I would assume it's heavy armor build, but I'd be interested in more details as well Smiley

sounds like it's 12 wiz/5pally/3warlock. unless the ac lines from ftr and pally stack in which case it's 12/4/4.

tier 5 pale
tier 4 defender
tier 3 es
tier 2 ek
  

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Reply #36 - Feb 13th, 2017 at 2:55pm
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WonderfulFoppyBint wrote on Feb 11th, 2017 at 9:53pm:
The funny thing about this thread is how FFS ripped off Seagryn's Magic Turtle Tank


You are an idiotic troll. Having the same level split does not equal having the same build.

Also, 2007 called, and it want's it's shitty Intimitank build back.
  

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Reply #37 - Feb 14th, 2017 at 12:05am
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5 Foot Step wrote on Feb 13th, 2017 at 2:55pm:
You are an idiotic troll. Having the same level split does not equal having the same build.

Also, 2007 called, and it want's it's shitty Intimitank build back.


Sorry I guess I didn't get through to you.
I'm not a troll.
I would never encourage a player to roll this piece of garbage.

I've seen and playtested things with that low of HP vs Bosses in high skull content and it does not work.

A working intimidate on someone who isn't afraid of getting hit is greater "tactics" than your flaccid fop. Your job as a tank is to enable high skull completions of quests that require face tanking. The tank is the literal question as to whether or not X is possible. (If you're one of those pussy morons who safe-spots everything, then that's on you. I don't play the game like a god damn cheese-machine like some of the brain-dead individuals around here.)
  

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Reply #38 - Feb 14th, 2017 at 2:05am
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are 5 foot and foopy a couple?
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Reply #39 - Feb 14th, 2017 at 3:58am
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Lhynn wrote on Feb 14th, 2017 at 2:05am:
are 5 foot and foopy a couple?


They are still working it out, like in those romantic comedy movies  Kiss
  

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Reply #40 - Feb 14th, 2017 at 10:47am
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WonderfulFoppyBint wrote on Feb 14th, 2017 at 12:05am:
I've seen and playtested things with that low of HP vs Bosses in high skull content and it does not work.


Not going to be an issue with reaper enhancements filled out.

WonderfulFoppyBint wrote on Feb 14th, 2017 at 12:05am:
A working intimidate on someone who isn't afraid of getting hit is greater "tactics" than your flaccid fop. Your job as a tank is to enable high skull completions of quests that require face tanking. The tank is the literal question as to whether or not X is possible.


Intimidate is great, that's why this build has a 130. But when all you can do intimidate you are a boring one trick pony at best and a waste of space when the enemies are immune.
  

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Reply #41 - Feb 14th, 2017 at 11:19am
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Arguing over tanks?  What has DDO evolved into?
  
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Reply #42 - Feb 14th, 2017 at 12:40pm
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Reply #43 - Feb 14th, 2017 at 12:42pm
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5 Foot Step wrote on Feb 14th, 2017 at 10:47am:
Intimidate is great, that's why this build has a 130. But when all you can do intimidate you are a boring one trick pony at best and a waste of space when the enemies are immune.


I'm sorry. Which mobs are vulnerable to tactics and not Intimidate?

Intim works on intelligent undead.
Elementals.

Dire charge would help with Vermin. That's the only thing I can think of.
  

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Reply #44 - Feb 14th, 2017 at 12:44pm
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5 Foot Step wrote on Feb 14th, 2017 at 10:47am:
Not going to be an issue with reaper enhancements filled out.


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Reply #45 - Feb 14th, 2017 at 1:08pm
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There's trip as well,...but far more importantly, this build can hold aggro through DPS.
  

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Reply #46 - Feb 14th, 2017 at 2:55pm
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Sorry i just have to post this.

So in other words, do this build at cap for 4 quests that people might "maybe" run and you wont be capable to be of any significant use at all because all you can do is being 1 shot because you dont have reaper trees filled out. Seems pretty dumb to me to do that if i get the whole mechanism behind this build, am i wrong?
Unless there is some kind reaper xp xploit bug /pm plx lol/ this build is not really ... good... atm...
Maybe in 14 months once you fill out reaper tree which will be around the time you might maybe do it while being at lv 30.

In the meantime the rest of the community is in heroics happily ever after farming reaper xp and getting stronger with proper builds.

Just gtfo from tank builds imho, if you want a reaper tank do a freaking warlock and farm heroics or some bshit on lower skulls.
Not like we need a freaking tank to complete most 10 skulls anyways (kiting and sspots ftw)

They screwed up reaper anyways with the whole reaper trees bshit in the first place
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Reply #47 - Feb 14th, 2017 at 3:10pm
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Lelouch wrote on Feb 14th, 2017 at 2:55pm:
Sorry i just have to post this.

So in other words, do this build at cap for 4 quests that people might "maybe" run and you wont be capable to be of any significant use at all because all you can do is being 1 shot because you dont have reaper trees filled out. Seems pretty dumb to me to do that if i get the whole mechanism behind this build, am i wrong?
Unless there is some kind reaper xp xploit bug /pm plx lol/ this build is not really ... good... atm...
Maybe in 14 months once you fill out reaper tree which will be around the time you might maybe do it while being at lv 30.

In the meantime the rest of the community is in heroics happily ever after farming reaper xp and getting stronger with proper builds.

Just gtfo from tank builds imho, if you want a reaper tank do a freaking warlock and farm heroics or some bshit on lower skulls.
Not like we need a freaking tank to complete most 10 skulls anyways (kiting ftw)

They screwed up reaper anyways with the whole reaper trees bshit in the first place


I would definitely say farm out the reaper xp first. That isn't even up for debate.

I agree that I would rather play something that is useful and performs well in all content, but people were interested in tanks and want to play one regardless, so I looked into it...with the hope that one day one of my mains that was a tank back in the day can tank meaningful endgame content again in a final life situation.

Also having some characters on the same build is a drag. With 10+ characters I need to look into diversification anyway.
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Reply #48 - Feb 14th, 2017 at 4:46pm
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5 Foot Step wrote on Feb 14th, 2017 at 3:10pm:
I would definitely say farm out the reaper xp first. That isn't even up for debate.


I'm sorry, on the one hand this is retarted.
On the other hand, you're a fucking idiot.
There is a third option but that is dependent on your exploit-fu. When we post builds that are dependent on an exploit though it tends to get it fixed. So that leads back to the previous options.
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Reply #49 - Feb 14th, 2017 at 4:50pm
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5 Foot Step wrote on Feb 14th, 2017 at 3:10pm:
I would definitely say farm out the reaper xp first. That isn't even up for debate.

I agree that I would rather play something that is useful and performs well in all content, but people were interested in tanks and want to play one regardless, so I looked into it...with the hope that one day one of my mains that was a tank back in the day can tank meaningful endgame content again in a final life situation.

Also having some characters on the same build is a drag. With 10+ characters I need to look into diversification anyway.


With 10+ characters -> the idea of you filling reaper xp/trees is laughable as a premise.

You obviously didn't test high skull tanks/etc while on lamm.

I strongly advice anyone from using this build.
  
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