Best build/AP split and way to play a Shirdai Warlock in epics?  Assume pure Walock not a Wiz/Sorc multiclass.

WonderfulFoppyBint wrote on Apr 10^th, 2017 at 12:02pm:


Wow, totally forgot they had access to sleet storm.  Fey would work I assume?

I agree, the split above is tight.  Great damage and great for groups (if they are letting Locks in lol)

However, my available play time is low so I solo most of time @ level R1 and working on Arcane EPLs in Draconic so doing 41 in ES, 14 TS, 7 SE and the rest in DB for Breath, Wings HP and Hamp.

Mokune wrote on Apr 11^th, 2017 at 7:38am:

I am intrigued by this thread.

I recently read a mobo post where some guy was screaming that Staunch was superior to Shining Through... and that Enlightened Spirit in general was a trap for suckers because the DPS was better in the other trees.

Obviously, I discounted his opinion 100% because mobos, but now I'm wondering if there wasn't a kernel of truth in it based on what I'm reading here.

Are you running ES and Spirit Blasting through Heroics where the added defense mean more?

How much survivability are you giving up by abandoning the ES tree and capstone?

Inquiring minds want to know... 

Does Quick Draw reduce the cooldown between firing off blasts and using an ability like consume? I found the delay between blasting/consume/stricken/blasting very annoying.

WonderfulFoppyBint wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 9:57am:


Yeah, I'd have to go with no too.  The most annoying thing about Warlocks in blasting mode
is they don't stop immediately - there is a slight delay, like and additional blast, before you can
do something else.  Boils my piss sometimes as it feels really klunky.

[Metal-Beast wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 12:09pm:


ymmv but yesx2 my friend

a 2nd finger is invaluable, the spell points are nice, the crit chance is groovy, and the wave works good with cone.

On the other hand I agree that chain is better most of the time because distance = safety.

Metal-Beast wrote on Jun 7^th, 2017 at 12:13am:


Basically yes.  I primarily used TS and some SE for low levels till I can swap almost all AP to ES for medium armor and brilliance then it's on @ 12+

I am on yet another DB Lock life now.  Have a 5 pcs Heroic Slavers set, some Celestial Leather with Mod Fort augment and other crafted gear for some Dodge, etc for lower levels.

@ 15 now and swapped out slaver's for level 15 named items and Cannith Crafted gear.

Emp, Max, Quicken, Enlarge, SF Enchant, Spell Pen.

TS 34 pts Core 4 and Tier 5s Eldritch Ball and the Eldritch Blast Dice
SE 12 pts for Feeding Frenzy and Cone
DB Remaining points.  I have Hp, Hamp, Spell Pen, Breath Weapon and +1 Breath DCs.  Working towards the Breath Augmentation to see if any will work with Warlock Eldritch attacks...

If it does work I will have 19 pts in DB, 41 in TS and 12 in SE leaving me with 8 pts to spend where ever.

With the HP bump in reaper mode Stanch is useable.  I never used it much if ever.  It's more of an oh shit button than a constant like shining through. 

As long as I am grouping I will run with this.  I have good DCs/Spell Pen from 3x caster PLs and gearing.

I can always go back the tried and true 41 ES, 31 TS, 8 SE that works effing brilliant any time.