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Silky Shroud Slacker Offline Posts: 1267 Joined: Dec 7^th, 2011 Gender:	DDO lawsuit Sep 10^th, 2017 at 1:05am	Print Post
	Sooooo https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/489593-Need-Logs-for-Discord-Server-fo... Quote: 09-09-2017, 08:31 PM #1 Taimasan Taimasan is offline Community Member Taimasan's Avatar Join Date Sep 2009 Location DTC, Colorado Posts 2,151 Default Need Logs for Discord Server for my Racial Discrimination Case My lawyer is asking for the logs for the DDO Discord for the past month. Since I am banned and have been past my self imposed ban Ague will not let me back. I have offered to talk to him IRL to get these logs. If anyone can give me the logs for the past 40 days I will be in your debt. This is for my court case and I am being stonewalled. Thank you for your time. https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/487792-An-explanation-I-d-love-to-hear... http://tinyurl.com/VictoryLap2016 Love Live Eternal Faith ~Sarlonian 4 lyfe~ Reply With Quote Reply With Quote 09-09-2017, 08:42 PM #2 Rykka Rykka is online now Community Member Rykka's Avatar Join Date Aug 2013 Location The Land of Ice and Snow Posts 1,654 Default Quote Originally Posted by Taimasan View Post My lawyer is asking for the logs for the DDO Discord for the past month. Since I am banned and have been past my self imposed ban Ague will not let me back. I have offered to talk to him IRL to get these logs. If anyone can give me the logs for the past 40 days I will be in your debt. This is for my court case and I am being stonewalled. Thank you for your time. You realize that Discord server is not run by SSG. It's just a private server. I used to play Mechwarrior and Tribes, so I embrace the lag. Reply With Quote Reply With Quote 09-09-2017, 08:45 PM #3 Taimasan Taimasan is offline Community Member Taimasan's Avatar Join Date Sep 2009 Location DTC, Colorado Posts 2,151 Default Quote Originally Posted by Rykka View Post You realize that Discord server is not run by SSG. It's just a private server. I understand completely this is just a last ditch effort to have a paper trail as advised by my counsel. https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/487792-An-explanation-I-d-love-to-hear... http://tinyurl.com/VictoryLap2016 Love Live Eternal Faith ~Sarlonian 4 lyfe~ Reply With Quote Reply With Quote 09-09-2017, 08:48 PM #4 Taimasan Taimasan is offline Community Member Taimasan's Avatar Join Date Sep 2009 Location DTC, Colorado Posts 2,151 Default And I have also offered to meet the Discord mod face to face. I live about a hour away. Would also like to note this that I made the effort to meet face to face. https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/487792-An-explanation-I-d-love-to-hear... http://tinyurl.com/VictoryLap2016 Love Live Eternal Faith ~Sarlonian 4 lyfe~ Reply With Quote Reply With Quote 09-09-2017, 09:54 PM #5 Knobull Knobull is offline Community Member Knobull's Avatar Join Date Dec 2012 Posts 1,359 Default Only Discord will have that, and word on the street is that they sell it for big money. feedback.discordapp.com/forums/326712-discord-dream-land/suggestions/10346535-al low-self-hosted-servers Their website provides no way to contact them directly. I would trust Discord about as far as I could throw them. They don't tell you who they are or where they are or even a mailing address: discordapp.com/company The Wikipedia page gives us some clues as to who they are: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discord_(software) Hmmm... Hammer & Chisel http://hammerandchisel.com redirects to https://discordapp.com/company They are really trying to hide who they are. This is extremely suspicious behaviour for a communications software developer. These people definitely cannot be trusted. They're only redirecting the root of the hammerandchisel.com domain though: http://hammerandchisel.com/privacy/ that privacy page does list an email address: support@hammerandchisel.com - I wonder if they answer it? (my guess would be no) Looks like bloomberg has the dirt: www.bloomberg.com/research/stocks/private/snapshot.asp?privcapId=243221325 Company Overview Hammer & Chisel, Inc. provides a communication application for gamers. It offers Discord, a communication platform that includes voice and text chat for gamers and can be used on desktops and phones. The company was incorporated in 2012 and is based in Campbell, California. 1901 South Bascom Avenue Suite 1180 Campbell, CA 95008 United States Founded in 2012 Key Executives For Hammer & Chisel, Inc. Mr. Jason Citron Founder and Chief Executive Officer Mr. Eros Resmini CMO Mr. Stanislav Vishnevskiy Chief Technology Officer Mr. Will Boyer Director of Marketing Compensation as of Fiscal Year 2017. (IANAL) I would say that based on this, your counsel will have to subpoena Jason Citron personally. Teamspeak is far superior. Discord is clearly for hipster "modern UI/UX" kiddies who have no idea about how real server technologies work and have never seen a command line or config file. "... none but ourselves can free the mind." - Marcus Garvey, 1937 Reply With Quote Reply With Quote 09-09-2017, 10:00 PM #6 Taimasan Taimasan is offline Community Member Taimasan's Avatar Join Date Sep 2009 Location DTC, Colorado Posts 2,151 Default Quote Originally Posted by Knobull View Post Only Discord will have that, and word on the street is that they sell it for big money. feedback.discordapp.com/forums/326712-discord-dream-land/suggestions/10346535-al low-self-hosted-servers Their website provides no way to contact them directly. I would trust Discord about as far as I could throw them. They don't tell you who they are or where they are or even a mailing address: discordapp.com/company The Wikipedia page gives us some clues as to who they are: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discord_(software) Hmmm... Hammer & Chisel http://hammerandchisel.com redirects to https://discordapp.com/company They are really trying to hide who they are. This is extremely suspicious behaviour for a communications software developer. These people definitely cannot be trusted. They're only redirecting the root of the hammerandchisel.com domain though: http://hammerandchisel.com/privacy/ that privacy page does list an email address: support@hammerandchisel.com - I wonder if they answer it? (my guess would be no) Looks like bloomberg has the dirt: www.bloomberg.com/research/stocks/private/snapshot.asp?privcapId=243221325 (IANAL) I would say that based on this, your counsel will have to subpoena Jason Citron personally. Teamspeak is far superior. Discord is clearly for hipster "modern UI/UX" kiddies who have no idea about how real server technologies work and have never seen a command line or config file. Thanks Bull, you have always been one to come through when things need to be done. I will forward this to my lawyer. https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/487792-An-explanation-I-d-love-to-hear... http://tinyurl.com/VictoryLap2016 Love Live Eternal Faith ~Sarlonian 4 lyfe~ Reply With Quote Reply With Quote 09-09-2017, 10:20 PM #7 Knobull Knobull is offline Community Member Knobull's Avatar Join Date Dec 2012 Posts 1,359 Default yw and np, it was an interesting little bit of research. Typical modern "app" (what ever happened to programs?) "developer". I love the sarcastic apps guy on slashdot... Now excuse me while I tell the non-existent kids to get off my non-existent lawn. "... none but ourselves can free the mind." - Marcus Garvey, 1937 Reply With Quote Reply With Quote 09-09-2017, 10:30 PM #8 Taimasan Taimasan is offline Community Member Taimasan's Avatar Join Date Sep 2009 Location DTC, Colorado Posts 2,151 Default Thanks again bull, saved this page a forwarded to my lawyer before this thread gets cubed. For the record I have reached out to Sev, Lynn, Cordo. To get a addy to SSG's legal department. All of the DDO staff have met my requests with silence. Doing another copy of the webpage now. My PMs to Lynn, Cordo and Sev have already been recorded. I will go ahead and save those now. Because I feel like they will ban me for sure now to silence me. https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/487792-An-explanation-I-d-love-to-hear... http://tinyurl.com/VictoryLap2016 Love Live Eternal Faith ~Sarlonian 4 lyfe~ Reply With Quote Reply With Quote 09-09-2017, 10:32 PM #9 Taimasan Taimasan is offline Community Member Taimasan's Avatar Join Date Sep 2009 Location DTC, Colorado Posts 2,151 Default I am not able to see Sent PMs can someone point me in the right direction if there is a way to find this? https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/487792-An-explanation-I-d-love-to-hear... http://tinyurl.com/VictoryLap2016 Love Live Eternal Faith ~Sarlonian 4 lyfe~ Reply With Quote Reply With Quote 09-09-2017, 10:38 PM #10 Taimasan Taimasan is offline Community Member Taimasan's Avatar Join Date Sep 2009 Location DTC, Colorado Posts 2,151 Default Quote Originally Posted by Knobull View Post Only Discord will have that, and word on the street is that they sell it for big money. feedback.discordapp.com/forums/326712-discord-dream-land/suggestions/10346535-al low-self-hosted-servers Their website provides no way to contact them directly. I would trust Discord about as far as I could throw them. They don't tell you who they are or where they are or even a mailing address: discordapp.com/company The Wikipedia page gives us some clues as to who they are: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discord_(software) Hmmm... Hammer & Chisel http://hammerandchisel.com redirects to https://discordapp.com/company They are really trying to hide who they are. This is extremely suspicious behaviour for a communications software developer. These people definitely cannot be trusted. They're only redirecting the root of the hammerandchisel.com domain though: http://hammerandchisel.com/privacy/ that privacy page does list an email address: support@hammerandchisel.com - I wonder if they answer it? (my guess would be no) Looks like bloomberg has the dirt: www.bloomberg.com/research/stocks/private/snapshot.asp?privcapId=243221325 (IANAL) I would say that based on this, your counsel will have to subpoena Jason Citron personally. Teamspeak is far superior. Discord is clearly for hipster "modern UI/UX" kiddies who have no idea about how real server technologies work and have never seen a command line or config file. Just talked to my dude, and even though it is through Discord the back and forth with Lynn and other Devs. He said that makes them a "culpable party". I need those logs. And I think there is a reason I am not getting them. Either way I can get them, but would like to have for the record. I am being stonewalled. https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/487792-An-explanation-I-d-love-to-hear... http://tinyurl.com/VictoryLap2016 Love Live Eternal Faith ~Sarlonian 4 lyfe~ Reply With Quote Reply With Quote 09-09-2017, 10:38 PM #11 Knobull Knobull is offline Community Member Knobull's Avatar Join Date Dec 2012 Posts 1,359 Default PMs are only saved in sent if you tick the box for it when sending or set it to save them in your profile settings: www.ddo.com/forums/profile.php?do=editoptions (under "Private Messaging") Sent PMs can be found in your profile here: www.ddo.com/forums/private.php?folderid=-1 P.S. archive.is is your friend. http://archive.is/In9To Last edited by Knobull; 09-09-2017 at 10:44 PM. "... none but ourselves can free the mind." - Marcus Garvey, 1937 Reply With Quote Reply With Quote 09-09-2017, 10:42 PM #12 Taimasan Taimasan is offline Community Member Taimasan's Avatar Join Date Sep 2009 Location DTC, Colorado Posts 2,151 Default Quote Originally Posted by Knobull View Post PMs are only saved in sent if you tick the box for it when sending or set it to save them in your profile settings: www.ddo.com/forums/profile.php?do=editoptions (under "Private Messaging") Sent PMs can be found in your profile here: www.ddo.com/forums/private.php?folderid=-1 P.S. archive.is is your friend. Ty brother, Got all of my sent PMs backed up. Will be going to my local EEOC office within 14 days from this post. https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/487792-An-explanation-I-d-love-to-hear... http://tinyurl.com/VictoryLap2016 Love Live Eternal Faith ~Sarlonian 4 lyfe~ Reply With Quote Reply With Quote 09-09-2017, 10:48 PM #13 Marshal_Lannes Marshal_Lannes is offline Community Member Join Date Oct 2015 Posts 1,173 Default IBTL (and eating popcorn) I am Awesomesauce! Reply With Quote Reply With Quote 09-09-2017, 10:53 PM #14 Taimasan Taimasan is offline Community Member Taimasan's Avatar Join Date Sep 2009 Location DTC, Colorado Posts 2,151 Default Quote Originally Posted by Marshal_Lannes View Post IBTL (and eating popcorn) Extra Butter I hope brother. I am not going to let this go. Even if it gets locked. I have backups. And several people contacting me off-forum for legal advice. https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/487792-An-explanation-I-d-love-to-hear... http://tinyurl.com/VictoryLap2016 Love Live Eternal Faith ~Sarlonian 4 lyfe~ Reply With Quote Reply With Quote 09-09-2017, 11:28 PM #15 PermaBanned PermaBanned is online now Community Member PermaBanned's Avatar Join Date May 2013 Posts 6,354 Default I'm curious. To the best of my understanding, just being the recipient of racial slurs does not meet the legal definition of discrimination. What is the legal basis for your discrimination claim? Were you banned from Discord or DDO strictly because of your ethnicity? On what grounds does this attorney feel you have a legitimate legal complaint? I would still like to see... Something that tests character versatility and player adaptability rather than character focus strength and quest knowledge. I play the quests for the content of the quests not just as an XP/min merry-go-round. I didn't leave DDO, it left me. Reply With Quote Reply With Quote 09-09-2017, 11:37 PM #16 cru121 cru121 is online now Community Member Join Date Oct 2009 Location Europe Posts 3,563 Default please move this **** to offtopic. Reply With Quote Reply With Quote


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Jelly_Muffin Stormreaver Piker Offline Just say fuckoff! Posts: 660 Location: Not in the cool kids club Joined: Oct 23^rd, 2013 Gender:	Re: DDO lawsuit Reply #1 - Sep 10^th, 2017 at 1:13am	Print Post
	Lol, yeah right the twat has a lawyer pushing for a case ..... fucking professional victim at play


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Skoodge LORD OF BOOBS Offline Whatever Posts: 3702 Location: Why? You want to visit me? Joined: Jul 19^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: DDO lawsuit Reply #2 - Sep 10^th, 2017 at 2:29am	Print Post
	Wouldn't be an issue at all if the CRM knew how to do his job.

	Turbine policy - glitches and poor coding resulting in interference of your game play or enjoyment will be ignored.� Glitches or poor coding on the developers side that at all benefit your game play or enjoyment will result in your character being banned and/or items from your inventory deleted.� Please report all bugs via our bug report...when it works.
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Who Cares Not this guy ^^^ Offline You sir, are a dickbag. Posts: 1951 Joined: Dec 5^th, 2014	Re: DDO lawsuit Reply #3 - Sep 10^th, 2017 at 3:18am	Print Post
	Well if this guy has a lawyer, they're shit. A good lawyer would get fucking subpoenas for the chat logs if they are relevant. They would also tell them that any contact with the people they are trying to sue would only hurt their case. They definitely wouldn't advise them to be posting shit like this moron did.

	Fuck Off, That is all Strakeln wrote on Feb 10^th, 2016 at 9:17pm: WC can do whatever he wants. [] wrote on Feb 6^th, 2017 at 11:26pm: Public Service Announcement: your servers are not dead; if you can't find groups, it means you suck and/or nobody likes you.
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Mr Reilly Stormreaver Piker Offline They're all gonna laugh at me. Posts: 673 Joined: Sep 22^nd, 2014 Gender:	Re: DDO lawsuit Reply #4 - Sep 10^th, 2017 at 5:07am	Print Post
	So, the gist I got from all this is that some moron is trying to sue SSG because someone called him a racial slur on the discord server and then he got banned. HA! LOL! He's obviously never been to the vault.

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Ah Pook Puppy Farmer Offline Posts: 314159265 Posts: 1439 Joined: Mar 10^th, 2014	Re: DDO lawsuit Reply #5 - Sep 10^th, 2017 at 11:41am	Print Post
	Mr Reilly wrote on Sep 10^th, 2017 at 5:07am: racial slur Mongrel? This guy's a joke, this suit's a joke, and I hope he gets countersued into oblivion.� I have no patience for racist bullshit, either in game or in real life, but I have even less patience for butthurt fake victims who see oppression at ever turn.� Dude needs therapy, not lawsuits.

	Daggertooth wrote on Apr 14^th, 2017 at 6:52pm: I'm pretty fucking sure I am a special snowflake. Frank wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 8:32am: Laugh it up, funny man.
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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: DDO lawsuit Reply #6 - Sep 10^th, 2017 at 1:12pm	Print Post
	He most likely doesn't have a lawyer.� �It's all a drama fest.� � No lawyer would take that case.� � A) the term in question isn't a racial slur.� �Especially if you don't know the individual is of mixed race decent.� �The guy never posted a pic (which would be highly subjective) nor did he self identify as mixed race. So the term was being used in a different context.� b). It happened on a third party site with no affiliation to SSG.� �One they have no control over.� �You have a better chance of suing discord (but even that is a zero chance given the terms and conditions).� Also the only individual in question was not employed by ssg at the time.� They were prior and were after but to say ssg has culpability for something someone who is not employed by them on a site they don't own just because the person used to work for them?� Or got hired later?� C) he said EEOC.� That's employment discrimination.� He's trying to say they didn't give him a job because someone who doesn't work for them (and was a college intern when they did) said a non racial slur on a third party web site.� Good luck with that. He has less than no case.� � Although if he is looking for 5-10k in nuisance money, he might get a disreputable lawyer who will do that. It's not like lying out your ass to get the case started has never happened before.� It would cost most companies 10-20k in legal fees just to get the case thrown out without merit.� It's actually cheaper for companies to just settle for 5k or something.� The lawyer puts in 10 hours and a few hundred bucks in filing fees and makes 2k.� The "client" gets 3k.� Welcome to our screwed up legal system.
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Ah Pook Puppy Farmer Offline Posts: 314159265 Posts: 1439 Joined: Mar 10^th, 2014	Re: DDO lawsuit Reply #7 - Sep 10^th, 2017 at 1:23pm	Print Post
	Asheras wrote on Sep 10^th, 2017 at 1:12pm: C) he said EEOC.� That's employment discrimination.� He's trying to say they didn't give him a job because someone who doesn't work for them (and was a college intern when they did) said a non racial slur on a third party web site.� Good luck with that. Wow, I just reread it.� Is that what this is about?� Ahahahahaha I can't tell what my favourite part is.� Maybe Quote: And I have also offered to meet the Discord mod face to face. I live about a hour away. Would also like to note this that I made the effort to meet face to face. Knobull's retardation about "real server technologies" is pretty good too though.� This whole thread is fucking SUCCESS.� And god bless 'im for having the insight to post it on a Sunday.

	Daggertooth wrote on Apr 14^th, 2017 at 6:52pm: I'm pretty fucking sure I am a special snowflake. Frank wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 8:32am: Laugh it up, funny man.
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Silky Shroud Slacker Offline Posts: 1267 Joined: Dec 7^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: DDO lawsuit Reply #8 - Sep 10^th, 2017 at 3:21pm	Print Post
	The other thread.... https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/488409-A-little-story-about-myself Quote: Default A little story about myself... I am doing this out of a bit of self therapy for myself and to provide a little background on this �situation� I started. And maybe someone, somewhere knows where I am coming form or can at least get a second opinion on the patterns I have found between race and this game and gaming in general. The year was 2009 and I was 24. I just started playing DDO. I met friends did a bunch of stuff with monk building. Loving the game. Fast forward 3 years I am a considered accomplished builder respected by my peers. I have Founded the guild on Sarlona called �The Fearless Crew�. A 100+ deep guild that I loved and still love. Of friends and adventures and raiding. With a tech background like most people who like DDO I applied to Turbine several times to be a intern as well. Then I posted my pic on the see what you look like thread. Overnight my guild was cut in half. I woke up to people saying they could not have a black man as a guild leader. They made a sister guild Keepers of Myth. A guild with a white leader but the same friends.As you can imagine it caused all sorts of drama. People would not have me in groups for months of the fear that I may report some one for racially charged chat. Every incident of race and people getting banned in game was immediately pinned on me. I was a pariah. I sent elaborate requests to the developers at that time to please look into this. And I was met with nothing . Not even a screw you. This makes me think that the developers think this acceptable. I also applied at the latest position the linked in. I did not expect to get it but then it made me wonder what is the racial makeup of SSG really once I had my unprovoked �hi you filthy mongrel.� From as a hello from a developer in the un-official discord server. It made me think that maybe there is more to this than just being racially insensitive. Every time I log on and I remember losing %50 of my �friends� because of my pigment. The culture from the top down saw it was a �nothing to see here.� moment starting with the staff, that is still present in the company today. I am not doing this just for me, but also for others who have maybe been passed over for what I believe may be for �reasons.� This is America. And I have the right to ask the Department of Labor to check into this me being a applicant. Yes, I feel I have be slighted but through my years of experiencing this in DDO. I would like to know if there is indeed racial discrimination going on. If I am wrong, I will of just wasted a bunch of time and money. And if not, maybe I can do some good in a way as well.


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Digimonk Puppy Farmer Offline Posts: 1573 Joined: Apr 7^th, 2015	Re: DDO lawsuit Reply #9 - Sep 10^th, 2017 at 4:42pm	Print Post
	Whole thing can be summed up by "sandy vag". As Who Cares said, if his lawyer was even remotely worth whatever hourly rate they're charging, subpoenas would be forthcoming to SSG and to Discord and/or the owner of the channel.


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Jelly_Muffin Stormreaver Piker Offline Just say fuckoff! Posts: 660 Location: Not in the cool kids club Joined: Oct 23^rd, 2013 Gender:	Re: DDO lawsuit Reply #10 - Sep 10^th, 2017 at 5:16pm	Print Post
	Professional victim ala BLM ...... guild left his ass for making drama and of course, victim pulls out the "It's coz I'm black card" and proceeds to dish out race cards left right and center Fucking snowflake blackforest cake


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Ah Pook Puppy Farmer Offline Posts: 314159265 Posts: 1439 Joined: Mar 10^th, 2014	Re: DDO lawsuit Reply #11 - Sep 10^th, 2017 at 5:16pm	Print Post
	Part of me wishes I'd run with him, just because of the sheer amount of shit-talking I do in groups... but then I'd be getting sued too, so maybe it's better.

	Daggertooth wrote on Apr 14^th, 2017 at 6:52pm: I'm pretty fucking sure I am a special snowflake. Frank wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 8:32am: Laugh it up, funny man.
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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: DDO lawsuit Reply #12 - Sep 10^th, 2017 at 5:27pm	Print Post
	Ah Pook wrote on Sep 10^th, 2017 at 5:16pm: because of the sheer amount of shit-talking I do in groups if ever on orien hit me up, bro

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Skrilla Puppy Farmer Offline Posts: 1362 Joined: Dec 12^th, 2013	Re: DDO lawsuit Reply #13 - Sep 10^th, 2017 at 6:37pm	Print Post
	Too much garbage and repeating to read op.. Too hard... Im done trying to read it But trying to get money from somebody joking around on the internet?... Id be rich af if that was a real thing.. But i wouldnt be that much of a bitch to try to take people to court over stupid shit.. If anything.. that guy should be paying for even bringing shit like that up..


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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: DDO lawsuit Reply #14 - Sep 10^th, 2017 at 6:58pm	Print Post
	This is also the guy who threatened "i'm going to cut you" in the logs he is looking for. That's going to go over well. And, again, he clearly self identifies as black. Then, AFTER being called a mongrel, suddenly emphasizes his mix-race heritage. Something which was not disclosed prior. The guy has all kinds of problems with his case. He won't get past summary judgement. Their best bet is to make his attorney (if he has one) do all the work and not settle. Don't respond to anything that isn't an actual court filing or subpoena. Then, just get it to summary judgement as quickly (and cheaply) as possible. This is a nuisance claim, at bast.


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Bigjunk Horoluth Raider Offline Hjeal meh! Posts: 2686 Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: DDO lawsuit Reply #15 - Sep 10^th, 2017 at 11:24pm	Print Post
	This guy makes me want to buy a Dodge.


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Silky Shroud Slacker Offline Posts: 1267 Joined: Dec 7^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: DDO lawsuit Reply #16 - Sep 11^th, 2017 at 1:31am	Print Post
	Bigjunk wrote on Sep 10^th, 2017 at 11:24pm: This guy makes me want to buy a Dodge. At least it wouldn't be a Ford.
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WonderfulFoppyBint Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Poooop Posts: 5947 Location: stockholm victim of hag master Joined: Oct 23^rd, 2013	Re: DDO lawsuit Reply #17 - Sep 11^th, 2017 at 1:54am	Print Post
	Jelly_Muffin wrote on Sep 10^th, 2017 at 5:16pm: Fucking snowflake blackforest cake you leave my Schwarzwald Kuche out of this god damnit. Nothing like German cake.

	OUR GOD: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1l7N-WLa3Q Right of Self-determination: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8bqQ-C1PSE volt_ wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2017 at 4:43pm: Be a container for your genes to control your behavior in order to reproduce
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m4lacka Horoluth Raider Offline Coitus ergo sum. Posts: 2494 Joined: Mar 19^th, 2014	Re: DDO lawsuit Reply #18 - Sep 11^th, 2017 at 2:36am	Print Post
	He would have a better chance at suing SSG for offering shitty deals for huge sums of money, which is their original and basic practice.

	Vaultaccount wrote on Aug 29^th, 2016 at 7:06pm: The most broken epic PL in the game is the ridiculous AC buff from martial PLs. But when you include all the inherent benefits from reincarnation, the thing is above the roof. The benefit from TR was supposed to be minimal, but now it is game breaking. start a new character and you will feel, you will get raped in heroics. Personally I think lower heroics on new characters are harder than Legendary Elite content on a character with good gear and has all destinies farmed. Arkat wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 4:14pm: And someone in another thread called ME delusional recently! Wow. Have you EVER gone to Law School Feyn? Have you EVER been asked by a United States Senator who is now the Vice President of the United States to write a paper just for him on a particular topic of Constitutional Law for his use as a Senator? Have you ever been asked to help a very notable Harvard PhD turned Constitutional scholar with his very-well received book on Legal Philosophy and Constitutional Revolutions? Have you ever been offered a job as a Deputy Attorney General BEFORE you even graduated Law School? No? Then STFU you fucking amateur. Meat-Head wrote on Jul 29^th, 2015 at 12:03am: Thx. I was semi-waiting because windows 10 will be here soon. but, the crashing is making me want to punch old people. IMARANGER wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 5:40pm: Pretty sure that the fact that a service can be hacked doesn't make it the "community chest".
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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: DDO lawsuit Reply #19 - Sep 11^th, 2017 at 4:39am	Print Post
	WonderfulFoppyBint wrote on Sep 11^th, 2017 at 1:54am: Schwarzwald Kuche sounds german for black porn

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Skrilla Puppy Farmer Offline Posts: 1362 Joined: Dec 12^th, 2013	Re: DDO lawsuit Reply #20 - Sep 11^th, 2017 at 8:01am	Print Post
	At the end of the day... He will try settle out of court for a travelers trunk, 10 Legendary bypass timers, and +10 shared bank spaces. And I think ssg should say he only gets that shit if he accepts a customized mongrel pet that is stuck on his toon 24/7.. They will end up meeting in the middle and giving him something like 3 timers and a character slot..


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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: DDO lawsuit Reply #21 - Sep 11^th, 2017 at 3:22pm	Print Post
	WonderfulFoppyBint wrote on Sep 11^th, 2017 at 1:54am: you leave my Schwarzwald Kuche out of this god damnit. Nothing like German cake. Deutsche k�che?

	Build links Endgame Gear Guide Cannith Crafting Planner link Warning: May contain outdated cultural depictions.
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Ah Pook Puppy Farmer Offline Posts: 314159265 Posts: 1439 Joined: Mar 10^th, 2014	Re: DDO lawsuit Reply #22 - Sep 11^th, 2017 at 4:33pm	Print Post
	Lynn can call me whatever she wants for an extra character slot.� �

	Daggertooth wrote on Apr 14^th, 2017 at 6:52pm: I'm pretty fucking sure I am a special snowflake. Frank wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 8:32am: Laugh it up, funny man.
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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 8850 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: DDO lawsuit Reply #23 - Sep 11^th, 2017 at 6:57pm	Print Post
	Personally, if I were a company on the receiving end of such a stupid lawsuit, I'd tell me lawyers to win it, then go after the guy for libel/slander. Go after him until we recoup court costs for both lawsuits. Being willing to bet he's said a few disparaging things

	I'll never understand the propensity of people to brag about being good at a video game. Its a toy you play with for fun. The only person who should be proud of you is your mother. If you're 3.
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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: DDO lawsuit Reply #24 - Sep 11^th, 2017 at 8:41pm	Print Post
	noamineo wrote on Sep 11^th, 2017 at 6:57pm: Personally, if I were a company on the receiving end of such a stupid lawsuit, I'd tell me lawyers to win it, then go after the guy for libel/slander. Go after him until we recoup court costs for both lawsuits. Being willing to bet he's said a few disparaging things You are assuming he has anything to get. Chances are he is judgement proof. Meaning he has a negative net worth. (He was applying for an internship job. That suggests a college student. Probably with student loan debt) All you can do is spend your money to force him into bankruptcy court. Which, while emotionally satisfying, is a reduction in your net income and shareholder value. If you are doing your fiduciary duty, you can argue it makes sense to not settle as a message to future nuisance claims. And pursue the ones with actual assets on a counter-suit. But counter-suing one with no assets is just a financial drain. If you are the sole shareholder with plenty of money, then it's your call. If you have shareholders or partners, it might be enough to just win the case as cheaply as possible.


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