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Reply #25 - Nov 17th, 2017 at 11:30pm
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Epoch wrote on Nov 17th, 2017 at 9:59pm:
I think they believe it will take people longer to farm that shit then it actually will.


People will have the melties banked and ready to go.  There will be completed sentient weapons on day 1.
  

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Reply #26 - Nov 17th, 2017 at 11:57pm
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So if I'm reading this right...

They have supposedly created a need for people to run:

Fire on Thunder Peak
Temple of Deathwyrm
Defile of the Just
Legendary Tempest Spine
Legendary Hound of Xoriat
Legendary Shroud
Mark of Death
Riding the Storm Out

Just so we're clear on that: 8 quests.

I hope everyone stockpiled Raid Bypass timers.  Tongue

I wonder if they're aware the game is played 1-20 now?

Thank Sweet Baby Jeebus I dont give a cunt-suck about Sentient weapons.
  

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Reply #27 - Nov 18th, 2017 at 12:02am
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Metal-Beast wrote on Nov 17th, 2017 at 11:57pm:
So if I'm reading this right...

They have supposedly created a need for people to run:

Fire on Thunder Peak
Temple of Deathwyrm
Defile of the Just
Legendary Tempest Spine
Legendary Hound of Xoriat
Legendary Shroud
Mark of Death
Riding the Storm Out

Just so we're clear on that: 8 quests.

I hope everyone stockpiled Raid Bypass timers.  Tongue

I wonder if they're aware the game is played 1-20 now?

Thank Sweet Baby Jeebus I dont give a cunt-suck about Sentient weapons.


There are also a few of the new quests that drop level 28 named items. I don't know how long they take to complete in comparison to a 4-6 min Hound raid.
  

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Reply #28 - Nov 18th, 2017 at 12:09am
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Epoch wrote on Nov 18th, 2017 at 12:02am:
There are also a few of the new quests that drop level 28 named items. I don't know how long they take to complete in comparison to a 4-6 min Hound raid.

I realized that right after I hit "Post".

Even then, those new quests are a grind... either Drgaonblood or Tethyamar (maybe the Legendary Shroud flags?)

I still think it would be faster to run the raids in most circumstances, even on EE or LE.

  

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Reply #29 - Nov 18th, 2017 at 12:10am
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Metal-Beast wrote on Nov 17th, 2017 at 11:57pm:
So if I'm reading this right...

They have supposedly created a need for people to run:

Fire on Thunder Peak
Temple of Deathwyrm
Defile of the Just
Legendary Tempest Spine
Legendary Hound of Xoriat
Legendary Shroud
Mark of Death
Riding the Storm Out


Why would I run raids for sxp when farming, say, subversion with bots would be more efficient?
  
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Reply #30 - Nov 18th, 2017 at 12:11am
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Metal-Beast wrote on Nov 18th, 2017 at 12:09am:
Even then, those new quests are a grind... either Drgaonblood or Tethyamar (maybe the Legendary Shroud flags?)

I still think it would be faster to run the raids in most circumstances, even on EE or LE.



You're forgetting about a couple packs.

It would not be faster.
  
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Reply #31 - Nov 18th, 2017 at 12:14am
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Pseudonym wrote on Nov 18th, 2017 at 12:10am:
Why would I run raids for sxp when farming, say, subversion with bots would be more efficient?

That is what remains to be seen.

I would think that the raids with their larger selection of named items would yield better returns, but maybe the BotFarm system is the way to go.

Time will tell.
  

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Reply #32 - Nov 18th, 2017 at 12:24am
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Metal-Beast wrote on Nov 18th, 2017 at 12:14am:
That is what remains to be seen.

I would think that the raids with their larger selection of named items would yield better returns, but maybe the BotFarm system is the way to go.



With the possible exception of hox (depending on whether or not you're counting time waiting for people to enter, etc), all of the raids you listed will be a waste of time. The odds of you pulling a named item aren't high enough to justify the amount of time spent.

You also included lshroud on your list, which doesn't drop any named items.

Farming with bots is absolutely the way to go. If you don't have bots there's still no reason to believe that most raids will net better sxp/min than running the fast quests from packs with ml28+ items until ransack.

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Reply #33 - Nov 18th, 2017 at 1:49am
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Zehnpai wrote on Nov 17th, 2017 at 3:49pm:
You level it up by sacrificing named items to it.  This is so anti-pug it hurts.  SSG really hates people who group.



Oh my, I knew I had a reason to hoard all those BTAoE, BTA, BTCoE Named Items for so long...

Since they won't give me The Item Collector at least now I have an outlet for them.

Note : the annoying thing would be for them to bring an Item Collector in the Spring 18 Update.
  

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Reply #34 - Nov 18th, 2017 at 2:08am
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Whats this item collector stuff you speak of?
  
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Reply #35 - Nov 18th, 2017 at 8:27am
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I only play 2 toons out of a horde of 19 total toons comprised of half mules and half non-played alts created to run with family or guildies.

Gonna free up a lot of inventory space on all those alts and finally get around to using the Birthday boxes with Citw Loot to feed em lol
  

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Reply #36 - Nov 18th, 2017 at 11:01am
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I remember when BtA first came out back in 2009.  People were all "wah wah wah.  The death of the Pug.  The death of sharing."  Then when BtCoE came out it was more of the same.  If people can sell that Ring of House Dunrobar on the AH, why trade it to a party member? 

This will have the same effect.  Selfish d-bags will still be selfish d-bags.  Cool folks that are fun to run with will still be cool folks that are fun to run with.  You can't legislate people to not be a-holes with binding status and game mechanics.

  
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Reply #37 - Nov 18th, 2017 at 11:04am
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I think the sentient sets are flexible enough and the XP grind is low enough that you will probably see players wanting a primary weapon and some situational weapons as well.  Also, I could see players upgrading an ML 21 weapon, an ML 23/24 weapon, an ML 26 weapon, and an end game ML 28/29 weapon to have for leveling. 

I think the per weapon grind is not so bad for opening the filligree slots.  Which encourages alts.  And doing multiple weapons per character.  We don't know how rare the filligrees will be yet.  Some are more rare than others.  And those, I think, are tradable.  That might bring back the economy that has been dead since the BtCoE gear stopped back around U23.
  
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Reply #38 - Nov 18th, 2017 at 11:06am
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I am fine with the mechanics of it.  What I would like to see is more interesting, lore focused, flavorful effects on the filligirees and with the set bonuses.  I think those could have been more creative.
  
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Reply #39 - Nov 18th, 2017 at 12:58pm
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Epoch wrote on Nov 17th, 2017 at 11:23pm:
If so, people who duped with have capped sentient weapons on day 1



Dude..... Shhhhhhh!

Also, I am having this reoccurring nightmare. Maybe I'm missing something, but it seems like we are going to have to farm for the filigrees. I get the sense that this will be like dragon touched armor, only way way more of a pain in the ass. Undecided I am scared. Someone please hold me and tell me it will be ok.

  

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Reply #40 - Nov 18th, 2017 at 1:00pm
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Asheras wrote on Nov 18th, 2017 at 11:06am:
I am fine with the mechanics of it.  What I would like to see is more interesting, lore focused, flavorful effects on the filligirees and with the set bonuses.  I think those could have been more creative.

What garbage tudbin does you don't like?

Just STFU fag fanboy.
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Dear players,

The D&D rules you were familiar with were too simple to understand, so we're continuing our move away from them to needlessly confusing subsystems that will make your play experience less fun and invalidate old builds and loot. We hope you have fun working out what the fuck MRR, PRR, MP, SP, RP, CL, MCL and all the other bullshit we made up whilst drunk means.

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Reply #41 - Nov 18th, 2017 at 1:53pm
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What the fuck is "Filigree" anyway ?
Sounds like some transgender hobbit name.

As for the weapons, I thought they couldn't come up with even more retarded "party unfriendly" mechanic.
Big surprise, another grind lol. And fuck all to do with "cap incentives".
  
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Slick Stick wrote on Nov 18th, 2017 at 12:58pm:
I get the sense that this will be like dragon touched armor, only way way more of a pain in the ass.  I am scared. Someone please hold me and tell me it will be ok.

Hold won't work on the party. Best I can do is grease. It will not be okay.
  

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Reply #43 - Nov 18th, 2017 at 2:35pm
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Wipe wrote on Nov 18th, 2017 at 1:53pm:
What the fuck is "Filigree" anyway ?
Sounds like some transgender hobbit name.

As for the weapons, I thought they couldn't come up with even more retarded "party unfriendly" mechanic.
Big surprise, another grind lol. And fuck all to do with "cap incentives".

No reason to stay at cap. This actually really promotes epic reincarnation instead. Unless you have all the past lives and enjoy doing nothing but slavers and some number of quests for the perfect reaper/mythic versions of your items. Farm ravenloft for loot to feed all your gems and grind for the rare gem augments. This is the new expansion. Enjoy Ravenloft.
  

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Reply #45 - Nov 18th, 2017 at 5:35pm
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ILoveExploits wrote on Nov 18th, 2017 at 1:00pm:
What garbage tudbin does you don't like?

This STFU fag fanboy.


He's to SSG as Russian MAGA twitter bots are to Trump.
  
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Reply #46 - Nov 18th, 2017 at 5:58pm
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Wipe wrote on Nov 18th, 2017 at 1:53pm:
What the fuck is "Filigree" anyway ?


decoratiion in weapons usualy gold or silver. think of gold leaf.
  
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Reply #47 - Nov 18th, 2017 at 7:44pm
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NoGoodDoc wrote on Nov 18th, 2017 at 5:35pm:
He's to SSG as Russian MAGA twitter bots are to Trump.

If in the next xpack turdbin suggest something like to install a huge black dildo in your chair and everytime you log in game it will go all the way in your ass, his answer would be:

"Ok i am fine with it"

Fucking dipshit, why he don't keep his bs in the shithole?
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Dear players,

The D&D rules you were familiar with were too simple to understand, so we're continuing our move away from them to needlessly confusing subsystems that will make your play experience less fun and invalidate old builds and loot. We hope you have fun working out what the fuck MRR, PRR, MP, SP, RP, CL, MCL and all the other bullshit we made up whilst drunk means.

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Reply #48 - Nov 18th, 2017 at 9:15pm
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Slick Stick wrote on Nov 18th, 2017 at 12:58pm:
Dude..... Shhhhhhh!

Also, I am having this reoccurring nightmare. Maybe I'm missing something, but it seems like we are going to have to farm for the filigrees. I get the sense that this will be like dragon touched armor, only way way more of a pain in the ass. Undecided I am scared. Someone please hold me and tell me it will be ok.



We will! It will be forever boring.
  

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Reply #49 - Nov 19th, 2017 at 1:29am
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The timing is perfect for me to finish my iconic and epic TRs, but I doubt these sentient weapons are going to make my daily 2x VoN3, Spies, and Wiz King runs any faster.

I just hope they whisper shit to you while you play: "Yessssss...more blood"
  
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