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Dec 15th, 2017 at 7:00pm
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Hey guys,

Am thinking of running my old Melee toon, so am looking for advice on a melee build.

Have 3 Barb, 3 Fighter, 3 Pally, 2 Rogue and 2 Ranger lives with him.

Will be staring at level 1 and running Reaper quests, mainly.

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Re: Returning to Melee
Reply #1 - Dec 16th, 2017 at 1:54am
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go monk
  
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Reply #2 - Dec 16th, 2017 at 7:13pm
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Sergod wrote on Dec 16th, 2017 at 1:54am:
go monk


Nah, go cleric.. OP only said melee, did not say melee effectively.. Warpriest can melee half-assed
  
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Reply #3 - Dec 18th, 2017 at 5:40am
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Sergod wrote on Dec 16th, 2017 at 1:54am:
go monk


2 or 3 monk lives and he pretty much has the ideal melee with the past lives he's already racked up.  Just a matter of build and gear after that.
  

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Alight, go monk.  Haven't played a monk in a while, any build suggestion or links to helpful builds?

Will be levelling from 1, not 15.  Won't be using a XP stone either.

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20 Monk
Human

Stats:..........Level 1 (36 pt build)

Strength............8
Dexterity...........17 (+ level ups)
Constitution.......14
Intelligence........12
Wisdom.............17
Charisma............8


Feat Progression:
Level 1   : Two Weapon Fighting
Level 1   : M1: Stunning Fist
Level 1   : Human: Dodge
Level 2   : M2: Mobility
Level 3   : Combat Expertise
Level 6   : Spring Attack
Level 6   : M6: Whirlwind Attack
Level 9   : Improved Two Weapon Fighting
Level 12 : Improved Crit Blunt
Level 15 : Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Level 18 : Weapon Focus Blunt
Level 21 : Overwhelming Critical
Level 24 : Improved Martial Arts
Level 26 : Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
Level 27 : Vorpal Strikes (+6 wis tome req'd)
Level 28 : Elusive Target
Level 29 : Dire Charge
Level 30 : Sneak of Shadows
Level 30 : Scion of the Ethereal Plane


Skills: Concentration, Heal, Hide, Spot, Tumble, UMD

Enhancements:
41 in Shintao
21 in Henshin
11 in NS
7 in Harper
racial AP in racial

ED: GMoF
Twist: Sense Weakness, Balanced Attacks, Improved Combat Expertise, Rejuvenation Cocoon
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Reply #6 - Dec 19th, 2017 at 4:07pm
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Cheers mate,  thanks for the help.
  
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If only running heroics add 1 fvs
  
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SpaceGoat wrote on Dec 19th, 2017 at 5:16pm:
If only running heroics add 1 fvs


Yes.
  

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Re: Returning to Melee
Reply #9 - Dec 20th, 2017 at 10:34am
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5 Foot Step wrote on Dec 19th, 2017 at 10:46am:
20 Monk
Human

Stats:..........Level 1 (36 pt build)

Strength............8
Dexterity...........17 (+ level ups)
Constitution.......14
Intelligence........12
Wisdom.............17
Charisma............8


Feat Progression:
Level 1   : Two Weapon Fighting
Level 1   : M1: Stunning Fist
Level 1   : Human: Dodge
Level 2   : M2: Mobility
Level 3   : Combat Expertise
Level 6   : Spring Attack
Level 6   : M6: Whirlwind Attack
Level 9   : Improved Two Weapon Fighting
Level 12 : Improved Crit Blunt
Level 15 : Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Level 18 : Weapon Focus Blunt
Level 21 : Overwhelming Critical
Level 24 : Improved Martial Arts
Level 26 : Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
Level 27 : Vorpal Strikes (+6 wis tome req'd)
Level 28 : Elusive Target
Level 29 : Dire Charge
Level 30 : Sneak of Shadows
Level 30 : Scion of the Ethereal Plane


Skills: Concentration, Heal, Hide, Spot, Tumble, UMD

Enhancements:
41 in Shintao
21 in Henshin
11 in NS
7 in Harper
racial AP in racial

ED: GMoF
Twist: Sense Weakness, Balanced Attacks, Improved Combat Expertise, Rejuvenation Cocoon


This interests me, although my OCD requires me to take completionist, especially on a monk. I'd drop weapon focus blunt (+1 hit 2 melee power) for it.

My question is your base stat distribution, why level ups into dex not wisdom and why not 16 dex/18 wis instead of the 17/17 split.

  

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Reply #10 - Dec 20th, 2017 at 11:22am
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Reply #11 - Dec 20th, 2017 at 1:49pm
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Cripey wrote on Dec 20th, 2017 at 10:34am:
This interests me, although my OCD requires me to take completionist, especially on a monk. I'd drop weapon focus blunt (+1 hit 2 melee power) for it.


You might be better off dropping Improved Martial Arts for it if you're looking at endgame with Scion of Ethereal in play since it's only 3.5 base damage and WF adds 2% to the rest of your base damage and 3% to your sneak attack and better attack bonus.

Cripey wrote on Dec 20th, 2017 at 10:34am:
My question is your base stat distribution, why level ups into dex not wisdom and why not 16 dex/18 wis instead of the 17/17 split.


Dex to hit, dex to damage, dex to sneak attack, ref, ac, dire charge, etc. I put 17/17 because I wasn't sure what kind of time he'd have for Vorpal Strikes. Otherwise I would have gone 18 dex/16 wis. It's not a big difference, but if you want to focus more on stunning fist and shintao DCs rather than DPS, you can go max wis/16 dex.
  

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Re: Returning to Melee
Reply #12 - Jan 1st, 2018 at 11:33am
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5 Foot Step wrote on Dec 19th, 2017 at 10:46am:
20 Monk


I'm starting a monk life just to 20 and looking at doing the following:

17 Monk/2 Fighter/1 FvS
Aasimar

Stats:..........Level 1 (36 pt build)

Strength............8
Dexterity...........16
Constitution.......16
Intelligence........8
Wisdom.............20 (+ level ups)
Charisma............8

MMMFvM MMFiFiM MMMMM MMMMM

Feat Progression:
Level 1   : Two Weapon Fighting
Level 1   : M1: Stunning Fist
Level 2   : M2: Dodge
Level 3   : Completionist
Level 6   : Mobility
Level 7   : M6: Combat Expertise
Level 8   : F1: Spring Attack
Level 9   : F2: Whirlwind Attack
Level 9   : Improved Two Weapon Fighting
Level 12 : Improved Crit Blunt
Level 15 : Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Level 18 : Weapon Focus Blunt
Level 21 : Overwhelming Critical
Level 24 : Improved Martial Arts
Level 26 : Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
Level 27 : Vorpal Strikes
Level 28 : Elusive Target
Level 29 : Dire Charge
Level 30 : Sneak of Shadows
Level 30 : Scion of the Ethereal Plane



Skills: Concentration, Heal, Jump, Spot, 1 in Tumble, UMD

Enhancements:
39 in Shintao
11 in Henshin
13 in NS
12 in Kensei
4 in Warsoul
racial AP in racial

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Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Kensei Focus: Martial Arts (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Extra Action Boost (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Haste Boost (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Haste Boost (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Haste Boost (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Tactics (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Tactics (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Tactics (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Ninja Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Ninja Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Shadow Veil (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Sneak Attack Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Acrobatic (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Acrobatic (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Acrobatic (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Agility (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Sneak Attack Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Action Boost (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Bastion of Purity (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Protection from Tainted Creatures (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Iron Hand (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Argent Fist (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Difficulty at the Beginning (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Deft Strikes (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Deft Strikes (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Deft Strikes (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Lifting the Veil (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Smite Tainted Creature (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Iron Skin (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Iron Skin (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Iron Skin (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Conditioning (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Conditioning (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Conditioning (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Restoring the Balance (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Jade Strike (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Dismissing Strike (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Wisdom (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - The Receptive Earth (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Tomb of Jade (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Instinctive Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Wisdom (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Empty Hand Mastery (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Kukan-Do (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Violence Begets Violence (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Meditation of War (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Henshin Mystic (Mnk) - Riddle of Fire (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Henshin Mystic (Mnk) - Ki Bolt (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Henshin Mystic (Mnk) - Sounding Staff (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Henshin Mystic (Mnk) - Mystic Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Henshin Mystic (Mnk) - Mystic Training (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Henshin Mystic (Mnk) - Mystic Training (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Henshin Mystic (Mnk) - Way of the Patient Tortoise (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Henshin Mystic (Mnk) - Contemplation (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Henshin Mystic (Mnk) - Contemplation (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Henshin Mystic (Mnk) - Contemplation (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Smite Foe (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Divine Might (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Divine Might (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Warpriest (Fvs) - Divine Might (Rank 3)  

  

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Reply #13 - Jan 1st, 2018 at 12:11pm
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friend is doing 18/1/1lock for QP DC. Should be at 100+, not counting the aura debuff from lock. Max QP would be pdk sswords 15/4ftr/1fvs, coming in at around 120 dc.
  

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Reply #17 - Jan 1st, 2018 at 11:50pm
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Rubbinns wrote on Jan 1st, 2018 at 12:11pm:
friend is doing 18/1/1lock for QP DC. Should be at 100+, not counting the aura debuff from lock. Max QP would be pdk sswords 15/4ftr/1fvs, coming in at around 120 dc.


Can you post this build?  Curious.
  
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Reply #18 - Jan 2nd, 2018 at 2:14am
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Bigjunk wrote on Jan 1st, 2018 at 11:50pm:
Can you post this build?  Curious.

35+ shintao
22 henshin
11 ninja
4 war soul for  Divine Will: You gain an Insight bonus to melee damage and the DC of tactical feats equal to 1/2 of your Wisdom modifier.

with a wisdom based kta the build can drop int and just pump more wisdom.
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