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SWF + THF Build?
Dec 18th, 2017 at 6:09pm
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I love the increased attack speed of SWF line of feats (and the +50% more damage with GSWF). I also love the extra Glancing Blow damage the THF feat line gives to Bastard Sword (and Dwarven Waraxes I think). The 12 extra MP that goes with getting both feat lines is also nice.

I am considering a Fighter/Paladin mix (14 Ftr/6 Pal or 14 Ftr/5 Pal/1 Wiz) to take advantage of some reasonably high AC and PRR as well as some pretty decent DPS with the Divinity bastard sword from the new Strahd raid.

My question is whether these two lines will work together or not? Has anyone formally named and posted a build like this in the past?

I don't want to re-invent the wheel nor take credit for an idea that may not even be original. If anyone knows of any builds similar to my idea, I would certainly appreciate any links to them.

Also, if you have any ideas, tips, or tricks for a build like this, I'd love to hear them.

BTW, I'm also looking at using the Heavy Armor Master feat line (4 feats for 30 PRR and 30 MRR) and also looking at using an Orb in the off-hand. I think Epic Blazing Sun makes the most sense for that spot.

Thanks.
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Re: SWF + THF Build?
Reply #1 - Dec 18th, 2017 at 6:22pm
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the thf+swf lines do work for glancing blows on bastard swords and dwarven axes. i havent played one since pally, armor up revamp, and swf were new. unless they changed something since then, it should still work.

  

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Re: SWF + THF Build?
Reply #2 - Dec 18th, 2017 at 9:07pm
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Grabbing THF locks you out of SWF and vice versa.

THF Weapons have a 1.5X mult to attack and damage, right? SWF B.Sword should still be good if that's the case.
  
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Re: SWF + THF Build?
Reply #3 - Dec 19th, 2017 at 12:18am
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Arganthonius wrote on Dec 18th, 2017 at 9:07pm:
Grabbing THF locks you out of SWF and vice versa.

Just confirmed this with a PDK. Disappointing.


Arganthonius wrote on Dec 18th, 2017 at 9:07pm:
THF Weapons have a 1.5X mult to attack and damage, right? SWF B.Sword should still be good if that's the case.

I don't know whether that 1.5x Damage would work with a Bastard Sword or Dwarven War Axe. I think you actually need a Two-Handed Weapon to get the 1.5 x STR modifier to damage.

The extra 1.5 x Whatever Stat to Damage from the GSWF would absolutely work though. It would also add an additional 30% to weapon attack speed.

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So, for the purposes of my build, I will have to stick with the Bastard Sword + Orb  and SWF feat line.

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Reply #4 - Dec 19th, 2017 at 12:31am
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Technomage wrote on Dec 19th, 2017 at 12:18am:
Just confirmed this with a PDK. Disappointing.


I don't know whether that 1.5x Damage would work with a Bastard Sword or Dwarven War Axe. I think you actually need a Two-Handed Weapon to get the 1.5 x STR modifier to damage.

The extra 1.5 x Whatever Stat to Damage from the GSWF would absolutely work though. It would also add and additional 30% to weapon attack speed.

So, for the purposes of my build, I will have to stick with the Bastard Sword + Orb  and SWF feat line.

As a slightly lesser alternate, you can get up to a 20% attack speed bonus plus several other goodies by going through the Vanguard cores.

Shortly after the last paladin pass, I ran a pure paladin with bastard sword and shield with the THF feats and shield stuff.  Went capstone in Vanguard and then a mix of KotC and Sacred Defender.

It did respectable even if not top-notch DPS and was damned near unkillable.  Was actually a pretty enjoyable build for just chilling since you didn't have to stay ultra focused to stay alive.

Still have the build.  I'm sure it's a bit outdated, but might give you a good starting point if you're interested.

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Paladin - BSword & Board
Paladin 20
Lawful Good Human

Stats
               32pt     Tome     Level Up
               ----     ----     --------
Strength        16       +5       4: CHA
Dexterity       13       +5       8: CHA
Constitution    14       +5      12: CHA
Intelligence     9       +5      16: CHA
Wisdom           8       +5      20: CHA
Charisma        16       +5      24: CHA
                                 28: CHA

Skills
          1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
         ------------------------------------------------------------
Heal      4  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
Balance   1  ½  1  1  ½  ½  ½  ½  ½  ½  ½  ½  ½  ½  ½  ½  ½  ½  ½     11
Jump                  ½  ½  ½  ½  ½  ½  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  ½  ½     11
Concent                                                      1  2  4   7
Tumble    1                                                            1
         ------------------------------------------------------------
          8  2  3  3  3  3  3  3  3  3  4  4  4  4  4  4  4  4  5  5

Feats
 1        : Exotic Weapon: Bastard Sword
 1 Human  : Tower Shield Proficiency
 1 Deity  : Follower of: Sovereign Host
 3        : Shield Mastery
 6        : Precision
 6 Deity  : Unyielding Sovereignty
 9        : Improved Critical: Slashing
12        : Two Handed Fighting
15        : Improved Shield Mastery
18        : Quicken Spell
21 Epic   : Improved Two Handed Fighting
24 Epic   : Improved Shield Bash
26 Destiny: Perfect Two Handed Fighting
27 Epic   : Epic Damage Reduction
28 Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
29 Destiny: Harbinger of Chaos
30 Epic   : Greater Two Handed Fighting
30 Legend : Scion of: Arborea

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   1. Divine Favor, Protection from Evil, Bless, Resistance
   2. Resist Energy, Remove Paralysis, Owl's Wisdom, Eagle's Splendor
   3. Cure Moderate Wounds, Prayer, Magic Circle Against Evil, Remove Curse
   4. Holy Sword, Zeal, Death Ward, Cure Serious Wounds

Enhancements (80 AP)
  Vanguard (41 AP)
    • To the Fore!, Shield Combat I, Vicious Shield I, Shield Combat II, Vicious Shield II, Shield Champion
         1. Shield Specialization, Armor Training III
         2. Shield Specialization, Missile Shield III, Melee Power Boost III
         3. Shield Specialization, Fatal Bulwark, Shield Riposte II, Strength
         4. Shield Specialization, Myrmidon's Edge III, Strength
         5. Shield to the Face, Disorienting Smash III, Armored Strength

  Sacred Defender (22 AP)
    • Holy Bastion, Sacred Defense, Divine Righteousness, Redemption
         1. Extra Lay On Hands II, Durable Defense III
         2. Bulwark Aura II, Resilient Defense III
         3. Resistance Aura II, Hardy Defense III, Charisma
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Re: SWF + THF Build?
Reply #5 - Dec 19th, 2017 at 6:39am
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You still get glancing blows while SWF with DAxe or BSword.  Just can't take THF feats as pointed out.
  

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Reply #6 - Dec 19th, 2017 at 7:03am
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Arganthonius wrote on Dec 18th, 2017 at 9:07pm:
Grabbing THF locks you out of SWF and vice versa.

THF Weapons have a 1.5X mult to attack and damage, right? SWF B.Sword should still be good if that's the case.

thanks. i didn't realize that was exclusive. Was under the impression that only twf+swf were locked out. It's a stupid thing to do by ssg, but it shows how little they actually play the game. In order to nerf wolves they made it impossible to build a fighter with various styles for flavor, or make a bastard/dwarven build better. All the while wolves simply took ranger levels because that is something that they cannot fix. So they basically fucked over anyone wishing to build for those concepts and didn't do anything to wolves. It was doable to stack the lines back then when I played the orb pally build.

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Re: SWF + THF Build?
Reply #7 - Dec 19th, 2017 at 10:23am
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Technomage wrote on Dec 19th, 2017 at 12:18am:
So, for the purposes of my build, I will have to stick with the Bastard Sword + Orb  and SWF feat line.


You can still use PTHF, THF enhancements that don't require the feat (such as arti), and ED abilities that enhance glancing blows (set them before you TR.)

You will need Magical Training or a workaround to equip an orb though.
  

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Reply #8 - Dec 19th, 2017 at 11:09am
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Digimonk wrote on Dec 19th, 2017 at 12:31am:
As a slightly lesser alternate, you can get up to a 20% attack speed bonus plus several other goodies by going through the Vanguard cores.

Shortly after the last paladin pass, I ran a pure paladin with bastard sword and shield with the THF feats and shield stuff.  Went capstone in Vanguard and then a mix of KotC and Sacred Defender.

It did respectable even if not top-notch DPS and was damned near unkillable.  Was actually a pretty enjoyable build for just chilling since you didn't have to stay ultra focused to stay alive.

Still have the build.  I'm sure it's a bit outdated, but might give you a good starting point if you're interested.

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Paladin - BSword & Board
Paladin 20
Lawful Good Human

Stats
               32pt     Tome     Level Up
               ----     ----     --------
Strength        16       +5       4: CHA
Dexterity       13       +5       8: CHA
Constitution    14       +5      12: CHA
Intelligence     9       +5      16: CHA
Wisdom           8       +5      20: CHA
Charisma        16       +5      24: CHA
                                 28: CHA

Skills
          1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
         ------------------------------------------------------------
Heal      4  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
Balance   1  ½  1  1  ½  ½  ½  ½  ½  ½  ½  ½  ½  ½  ½  ½  ½  ½  ½     11
Jump                  ½  ½  ½  ½  ½  ½  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  ½  ½     11
Concent                                                      1  2  4   7
Tumble    1                                                            1
         ------------------------------------------------------------
          8  2  3  3  3  3  3  3  3  3  4  4  4  4  4  4  4  4  5  5

Feats
 1        : Exotic Weapon: Bastard Sword
 1 Human  : Tower Shield Proficiency
 1 Deity  : Follower of: Sovereign Host
 3        : Shield Mastery
 6        : Precision
 6 Deity  : Unyielding Sovereignty
 9        : Improved Critical: Slashing
12        : Two Handed Fighting
15        : Improved Shield Mastery
18        : Quicken Spell
21 Epic   : Improved Two Handed Fighting
24 Epic   : Improved Shield Bash
26 Destiny: Perfect Two Handed Fighting
27 Epic   : Epic Damage Reduction
28 Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
29 Destiny: Harbinger of Chaos
30 Epic   : Greater Two Handed Fighting
30 Legend : Scion of: Arborea

Spells
   1. Divine Favor, Protection from Evil, Bless, Resistance
   2. Resist Energy, Remove Paralysis, Owl's Wisdom, Eagle's Splendor
   3. Cure Moderate Wounds, Prayer, Magic Circle Against Evil, Remove Curse
   4. Holy Sword, Zeal, Death Ward, Cure Serious Wounds

Enhancements (80 AP)
  Vanguard (41 AP)
    • To the Fore!, Shield Combat I, Vicious Shield I, Shield Combat II, Vicious Shield II, Shield Champion
         1. Shield Specialization, Armor Training III
         2. Shield Specialization, Missile Shield III, Melee Power Boost III
         3. Shield Specialization, Fatal Bulwark, Shield Riposte II, Strength
         4. Shield Specialization, Myrmidon's Edge III, Strength
         5. Shield to the Face, Disorienting Smash III, Armored Strength

  Sacred Defender (22 AP)
    • Holy Bastion, Sacred Defense, Divine Righteousness, Redemption
         1. Extra Lay On Hands II, Durable Defense III
         2. Bulwark Aura II, Resilient Defense III
         3. Resistance Aura II, Hardy Defense III, Charisma
         4. Swift Defense

  Knight of the Chalice (17 AP)
    • Slayer of Evil
         1. Extra Turning I, Extra Remove Disease III
         2. Divine Might III, Exalted Cleave III
         3. Improved Restoration III

Destiny (24 AP)
Divine Crusader
   1. Endless Turning III, Purge the Wicked, Charisma
   2. Charisma
   3. Blessed Blades, Charisma
   4. No Regret, Charisma
   5. Castigation, Heavenly Presence, Celestial Champion, Charisma

Twists of Fate (6 fate points)
   1. Rejuvenation Cocoon (Tier 1 Primal)
   2. Legendary Shield Mastery (Tier 2 Sentinel) 


Thanks, Digi. I would have more seriously considered a Vanguard Pally except I've played one already and, while it was somewhat fun, I want to play something with a bit more DPS.

A lot of my decision will be based on gear available. If I'm going to play a Vanguard, I'd need a serious shield like Devil's Defense or Terminus. I don't have either of these on the toon that has the Divinity bastard sword.

Thanks for the build, though. I still may use it as the toon that does have both of those shields is working on getting his own Divinity.
  

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Reply #9 - Dec 19th, 2017 at 11:13am
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5 Foot Step wrote on Dec 19th, 2017 at 10:23am:
You can still use PTHF, THF enhancements that don't require the feat (such as arti), and ED abilities that enhance glancing blows (set them before you TR.)

You will need Magical Training or a workaround to equip an orb though.

Yes to both of these observations. I knew about both, though. If I decide to go with the 14FTR/5PAL/1WIZ build, Magical Training won't be an issue.
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I think you can take the SWF and TWF feats together, because they can't be active at the same time.

By the way, what shields are best for a Vanguard Pally? I'm thinking of TRing my monk into one.
  
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Arganthonius wrote on Dec 19th, 2017 at 11:56am:
I think you can take the SWF and TWF feats together, because they can't be active at the same time.

Only certain builds effectively allow that.


Arganthonius wrote on Dec 19th, 2017 at 11:56am:
By the way, what shields are best for a Vanguard Pally? I'm thinking of TRing my monk into one.

Devil's Defense if you want to have a decent Dodge chance, Terminus if you don't care about Dodge. These are both raid loot shields, though.

Another interesting option is the Epic Shield of Tireless Aid. It provides a bunch of stuff a self-healing Paladin would find useful.
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There's a build that benefits from TWF and SWF at the same time? How?

Also, I meant shields for leveling. Low level-mid level heroic.
Is it better to go khopesh or B.sword if you're not grabbing the THF feats?
  
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I think you can take the SWF and TWF feats together, because they can't be active at the same time.

By the way, what shields are best for a Vanguard Pally? I'm thinking of TRing my monk into one.

those are all exclusive. it was done to curtail wolf build because swf+twf stacking gives wolf form insane dps boost. I didn't think they would do the same for thf.

am not a fan of tower shields over large because large shields do not have a dodge cap.
  

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Reply #14 - Dec 19th, 2017 at 12:47pm
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Arganthonius wrote on Dec 19th, 2017 at 12:12pm:
There's a build that benefits from TWF and SWF at the same time? How?

As Rubbinns said above, it's a certain Druid (Wolf) build. I'm not going to go into detail because some call it an exploit. There are other posts here in the Builds section that could answer your question with details, however.

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Is it better to go khopesh or B.sword if you're not grabbing the THF feats?

I'd go with Khopesh over bastard sword if I weren't planning on taking advantage of Glancing blow damage with a THF feat or two.
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Rubbinns wrote on Dec 19th, 2017 at 12:12pm:
those are all exclusive. it was done to curtail wolf build because swf+twf stacking gives wolf form insane dps boost. I didn't think they would do the same for thf.

am not a fan of tower shields over large because large shields do not have a dodge cap.


But Heavy Armor has a dodge cap, and a pure pally should go Heavy Armor over unarmored, right?
  
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Arganthonius wrote on Dec 19th, 2017 at 12:56pm:
But Heavy Armor has a dodge cap, and a pure pally should go Heavy Armor over unarmored, right?

Medium armors also limit your Dodge cap. For Medium armor, though, the Dodge cap is usually higher.

I'd go Heavy Armor on my build so I could take the Fighter-Only Heavy Armor feats.
  

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Reply #17 - Dec 19th, 2017 at 2:18pm
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Arganthonius wrote on Dec 19th, 2017 at 12:56pm:
But Heavy Armor has a dodge cap, and a pure pally should go Heavy Armor over unarmored, right?

tower shields are very low, 2-4 cap. heavy armor is 8-11~
  

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