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Reply #225 - Feb 12th, 2018 at 10:57am
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5 Foot Step wrote on Feb 12th, 2018 at 10:29am:

This?


That's like half a list, if you can parse it. And it gimps out for hp.

Shame...shame...shame...

i sit on 2k hp in reaper.... "gimp hp"
  
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Reply #226 - Feb 12th, 2018 at 11:08am
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You talk a big game for someone who has no noteworthy DDO achievements, has no videos posted to back up the talk, and is probably farming LH.
  
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Reply #227 - Feb 12th, 2018 at 11:08am
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Still gonna say..nut up or shut up.
  
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Reply #228 - Feb 12th, 2018 at 11:55am
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Sergod wrote on Feb 12th, 2018 at 10:57am:
i sit on 2k hp in reaper.... "gimp hp"


Yes, that is too much.
  

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Reply #229 - Feb 12th, 2018 at 12:09pm
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5 Foot Step wrote on Feb 12th, 2018 at 11:55am:
Yes, that is too much.

idk, I've seen serg in lh strahd duo vid, lh shroud duo vid, and a 13 minute r10 demon assault ( with a party composition that eschews the traditional r10 set ups of cc caster/healer/tank, and just fields 6 monks instead lol). The guy shreds shit and that hp pool lets him take a r10 hit and not die instantly.
  

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Reply #230 - Feb 12th, 2018 at 12:15pm
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2k is where you need to sit  in r10.... your lack of experience is showing
  
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Reply #231 - Feb 12th, 2018 at 7:32pm
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Sergod wrote on Jan 16th, 2018 at 9:46am:
executioner helm
shroud pom neck
echo ravenkind
shadwhail cloak
cutcord
crumbings
wom shroud boots
aom shroud bracers
nightfall ring
perfect pinnacle
disciple of dawn


After seeing this argument drag on, I decided that I wanted to test this for myself in game to see if I can get a resolution.  Currently I'm using Rubbins' first gear setup.  I am still missing the raid items, but i'm only coming in at around 650 base damage per hit.  I know the raid shuriken is powerful, but I can't imagine it being over twice as powerful, so now I'm busy collecting the few pieces of gear that were different between your layout and his.

What I've found so far is that you've omitted the goggle slot (I assume it's Van Richten's Spectacles).  It's safe to assume that the shuriken you use is Spite, even though it's never been specifically mentioned.  I also see you talk about a swap macro, so I assume you have a Shroud int/int/int item (kama?) that you swap before using Know the Angles.  Is that all correct without omitting any important buff / mechanics knowledge?

Edit: Oh... you also don't have any augments listed (or, I believe, your other two filigrees - which I assume are dexterity).  Those add up too!
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Reply #232 - Feb 12th, 2018 at 8:21pm
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This build is pretty straightforward to gear:

Prowess set for filigrees (5 piece)
Silent Avenger Set (3 Piece - Cloak, Belt, Armor)
Mists Set (5 Piece Gloves, Goggles, Ring/Pinnacle, Ring, trinket/echo raven)

With 12 equipment slots, you have 4 leftover to play with (neck, boots, helmet and bracers). You can use those for Shroud or Slavers set, or whatever.

The big base damage numbers claimed in this thread require ALL of the above gear (including the raid shuri and 5 piece prowess which in my opinion are the hardest to acquire, for me so far anyway).

To get that 1000+ first number on a red named you need:

All the gear and set bonuses above
10 stacks in blitz
MP action boost
20% stacked invuln
around 100 dex
KtA boosted with an int swap (anything works, I use a 15/7/2Festival Int cloak)

My max damage calcs put base damage with new shuri around 180-200 with 100 Dex, maxed out deadly, etc. With the 360'ish MP you get boosted with this build with a few mythic MP items, you're looking at about 850'ish base damage. Add 20% vulnerability and voila, ~1000'ish base damage for that first number.

There may be some damage sources I haven't taken into account, or exploits/overperformance issue I have not correctly identified in my calculations.

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Reply #233 - Feb 12th, 2018 at 8:45pm
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harharharhar wrote on Feb 12th, 2018 at 8:21pm:
This build is pretty straightforward to gear:

Prowess set for filigrees (5 piece)
Silent Avenger Set (3 Piece - Cloak, Belt, Armor)
Mists Set (5 Piece Gloves, Goggles, Ring/Pinnacle, Ring, trinket/echo raven)

With 12 equipment slots, you have 4 leftover to play with (neck, boots, helmet and bracers). You can use those for Shroud or Slavers set, or whatever.

The big base damage numbers claimed in this thread require ALL of the above gear (including the raid shuri and 5 piece prowess which in my opinion are the hardest to acquire, for me so far anyway).

To get that 1000+ first number on a red named you need:

All the gear and set bonuses above
10 stacks in blitz
RP action boost
20% stacked invuln
around 100 dex
KtA boosted with an int swap (anything works, I use a 15/7/2Festival Int cloak)

My max damage calcs put base damage with new shuri around 180-200 with 100 Dex, maxed out deadly, etc. With the 360'ish MP you get boosted with this build with a few mythic MP items, you're looking at about 850'ish base damage. Add 20% vulnerability and voila, ~1000'ish base damage for that first number.

There may be some damage sources I haven't taken into account, or exploits/overperformance issue I have not correctly identified in my calculations.



Yeah, I get most of that.  That's why I had all my assumptions listed already in that post.  I wanted it actually listed because a) other people may not know and b) I want to make absolutely sure I'm not missing something.

For the record, I've already got prowess, which I found fairly easy to acquire (then again, I have three players sharing all of their filigrees over twelve accounts).  I have blitz, boost, and KtA going pretty much at all times.  I'm not sure how to get invuln and only have 78 dex (no racial past lives, no yugo pot, no spectacles, and no non-prowess dex filigrees).  Having those would put me at 87, so I'm not sure where the other dex comes from.
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Reply #234 - Feb 12th, 2018 at 8:47pm
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Though, to be fair, all of this is probably for nothing.  I haven't gotten a SINGLE useful raid item (either drop OR roll) since DoJ was introduced).  Sad

Edit: an hour after posting this I got a Duality.  The irony is so thick it would choke an astronaut in a space suit.
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Reply #235 - Feb 13th, 2018 at 12:42pm
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You can swap the int cloak. Yes van richten and spite.
  
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Reply #236 - Feb 21st, 2018 at 3:19pm
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did you even talked stars? i mean there's some space before Spite given it even drops for one init?
  

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Reply #237 - Feb 21st, 2018 at 4:58pm
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Before spite use Dawnbringer or Morninglord
  
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Reply #238 - Feb 24th, 2018 at 6:23pm
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Any changes to your build zerg?
  
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Reply #239 - Feb 26th, 2018 at 10:58am
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Now that Silent Avenger set bonus no longer provides 100% fort bypass, probably will swap out Power Attack for Precision.
  
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Carpone wrote on Feb 26th, 2018 at 10:58am:
Now that Silent Avenger set bonus no longer provides 100% fort bypass, probably will swap out Power Attack for Precision.


Yep. This.
  
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Reply #241 - Feb 28th, 2018 at 10:30am
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This gear setup is missing MRR item. Unless you somehow place it in off hand. That would be possible on a LGS. That is the option, or dropping one shroud item for a loss of 5% hp (1.24/1.18).
  
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Reply #242 - Feb 28th, 2018 at 11:04am
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Vaultaccount wrote on Feb 28th, 2018 at 10:30am:
This gear setup is missing MRR item. Unless you somehow place it in off hand. That would be possible on a LGS. That is the option, or dropping one shroud item for a loss of 5% hp (1.24/1.18).

baba goggles
  

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Reply #243 - Feb 28th, 2018 at 8:01pm
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Rubbinns wrote on Feb 28th, 2018 at 11:04am:
baba goggles


yeah didn't even notice he skipped goggles in the list

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executioner helm
shroud pom neck
echo ravenkind
shadwhail cloak
cutcord
crumbings
wom shroud boots
aom shroud bracers
nightfall ring
perfect pinnacle
disciple of dawn

  
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Reply #244 - Feb 28th, 2018 at 8:12pm
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Vaultaccount wrote on Feb 28th, 2018 at 8:01pm:
yeah didn't even notice he skipped goggles in the list


and skipped spite. prolly one other item, too.
  

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Reply #245 - Feb 28th, 2018 at 8:49pm
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Rubbinns wrote on Feb 28th, 2018 at 8:12pm:
and skipped spite. prolly one other item, too.


Have to spoon feed these fucks. Jesus.
  
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harharharhar wrote on Mar 1st, 2018 at 1:18am:
offhand

didnt list it cuz it was toee due to set bug. now use echo of sunsword
  
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Reply #248 - Mar 1st, 2018 at 11:46am
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Sergod wrote on Mar 1st, 2018 at 10:25am:
didnt list it cuz it was toee due to set bug. now use echo of sunsword


set bug being Silent Avenger? Or there was a bug with TOEE set?
  
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Reply #249 - Mar 1st, 2018 at 12:49pm
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harharharhar wrote on Mar 1st, 2018 at 11:46am:
set bug being Silent Avenger? Or there was a bug with TOEE set?

silent was bypassing 2500% fort.
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I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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