Defiitely a nice build.

I was thinking about doing some rogue/shadar kai lives next. Anyone do a post u39 wolf/acrobat build? Was thinking something like 8D/12R with heavy in Acrobat and secondly in Natures Warrior. Any thoughts?

Actually this may do the Biz for me, I like the druid spells but I will look at how many Druid levels to take, Minimum 8 (but I would prefer to have the druid past life, and I want to get one Shadar Kai at least for past life bonuses.

Think I could work 17 druid  2 rogue (evasion and trap skills) 1 some thing?

I want to try Snowslide out as it seems fun. Does anyone have a build out there, I guess a wisdom build? Under if this would be doable as an int build? Vistani, harper..

Yeah probably right, 1 rogue should be enough, and monk for forms will help more. Just take the rogue level at one (shadar Kai). Think SWF is the way to go, Dagger I guess, and I have a lot of them. I will re read this thread since I can not read the other forum lol. My day off!!!

Yeah I was wondering how I would get that first feat, still non optimal is ok. The extra skill points might be handy with lvl 1 rogue.

I guess I can take precision or something?

Justanotherlurker wrote on Mar 6^th, 2019 at 10:49am:


Agreed in GM Water in Epics that extra 12% static dodge makes a big difference as well as the extra saves and AC. Not to mention it gives you the option to run in EIN on say an R10 Amber run if you lack CC.

Actually the BAB of +1 was the issue with precision, not the stat requirement for me for not being able to take precision since rogue doesn’t give +1 until level 2.

Another option and probably the best is to take SWF at level 1. Just make sure you put two ranks in balance at creation.

Thanks, taking rogue at 1 as I will run some Shadar Kai lives. I will do the swap with Fred and use completionist.

Ok here is my Epic update to this build.  When I first ran it I liked it a ton and thought it was mostly a strong heroic build.While it is strong in heroics, I’d really give it a B+ or A-.  Lack of AoE dmg makes it a little slow in heroic.

However, in Epics and endgame I love it and rate it a strong A.  I switched the focus to in order 1) CC 2) DPS and 3) Defense/tanking ability and Healing.

I didn’t finish the gear set I have below before I TR’d and I don’t quite have both completionist feats (5 lives away from having both). But even down 5 wisdom (this was first life of aasimar), the CC, dmg and all around utility was awesome.

Regarding gear, I went with Beacon of Magic set as I was already pretty much capped for dbl strike and the boost to magic defense and offense/healing was something I wanted to try.  For you gear pros out there let me know if there is an obvious change I should make on gearing.

Even down completionist and some gear I was getting 10k to 12k dps on Brunstmash tests and that is 1) no vulnerable, 2) solo tanking it so very limited sneak attack, 3) incomplete gear.  I think geared as listed below I would really approach 15k dps.  I’m quite pleased with that because if I switch to Earth stance I get a huge boost to melee hate generation and can hold aggro against anything if need be.

One thing I might drop is Burst of Glacial Wrath as it just plain sucks compared to my other helpless inducing CC.  Won’t decide until i get both completionist feats and get my wisdom all the way up as listed below. 

It is easily my favorite build.  Please forgive the long ass post.


Rough stats-
AC about 180
HP about 1900 out of reaper ~2400 in reaper in epic defensive stance(natural fighting x3)
PRR 150ish MRR capped at 70
Saves mid 70’s fort/reflex about 100 Will
Melee power about 175 base (in Primal Avatar), 225 with prowess boost
Elec spell power- 700 with Thrummingspark 500 without
Heal spell power- 700 with Silverthread, 500 without
12,000 to 15,000 dps
49% melee attack speed bonus (non boosted)
Capped Dblstrike


AoE helpless inducing cc:

Snowslide-  reflex save
Dire Charge - fort save
BoGW-   fort save

AoE non helpless inducing:

Earthquake - reflex
Howl of Terror- will (awesome now)
Sleet storm- no save blind, auto kill eyes
Sunburst - reflex, blinds, auto kill eyes


Single Target Helpless inducing cc:

Blind bird strike
Trip bird strike
Salt Ray (touch range if in defensive fighting stance)
Balanced attacks- Proc on vorpal knockdown and helpless
Perfect Pinnacle water stance- Jury out on if this causes helpless or not

Epic Feats

21-      Improv Crit Pierce
24-      Overwhelming Critical
26-      Prfct Two Wpn Fighting or/Guardian angel/Tactician
     *Note Guardian Angel would give 110 prr for 30 seconds.
27-      BoGW/Completionist
28-      Mass Frog
29-      Dire Charge
30-      One of the level 27 feats you didn’t take yet. (BoGW/Completionist)
Plane of Air/Arborea/Ethereal
*Plane of Air is for those who focus on CC- +4 to evocation for earthquake. Also gives +4 dodge cap and 2d20 elec dmg per hit which makes it a decent choice. 22 elec dmg avg times 8 from 700 elec spell power gives ~176 elec dmg per hit. 30 to universal sp also helps with healing.

Epic Destiny- Avatar of Nature

Twists-
Sense Weakness (4)
Meld (3)
Acute Instincts (2) - plus 2 wis, 6 spot/heal/balance
Dance of Flowers (1) - 1.5w to all attacks
Legendary Tactics (1)- 6 to tactics dc

Enhancements -
42- Vistani

26- Falconry- DI 2, helpless dmg 3 (30%), expose weakness

12- Nature's Warrior- Max dodge clickie, 2 cores for plus 2 dmg and 2 sneak attack die, 10% dblstrk action boost, 10% fort bypass. Helpless dmg 8%., core 3 (1 hit/dmg, 1 sneak die, hp)


13- Aasimar- All cores, purpose, 2 dmg v evil, 20 heal amp, extra purpose.

Wisdom-

20 fleet foot
4 quality slavers
7 insight trinket
1 exceptional
6 enhancements aasimar (2), vistani (3) and falconer (1) enh
8 tome
20 starting
7 level ups
7 primal avatar (5 + 2 from stance)
3 filigree
2 racial past lives
2 racial completionist
2 completionist
4 monk stance
2 profane
2 festive
2 ship buff
2 Acute instincts (rage pot)
5 reaper wis
106 perma
2 yugo pot
2 rem pot
110
+5 max wis filigree stick (8 total 3 on normal weapon)
115 when casting earthquake/mass frog

+2 vistani core 4- 25% of the time.

Damage:
3 monk lives
11 vistani tiers
25 Deadly instinct
10 blessed blades
3 nature's warrior core
3 enchant past life
2 aasimar v evil
2 ship
6 favored constructs, undead, animals
2 ram's
16 deadly
5 insight deadly
85 sub total
50 wis mid
137 dmg mod

0.25 (w) ship
1 (w) vistani
1.5 (w) dance of flowers
2.75 (w) per attack

60.375 dagger dmg Pain
x1.05 for symmetric strikes boost
207.2   avg base dmg per hit


+37% helpless dmg from enhancements

35/50 melee power from feats/enhmnt (Natural fighting x3, vistani core 5, falconer)

100% fort bypass- (50% bird strike, 25% precision, 15% deconstructor augment, 10% wolf core)

Dodge-
4      Monk levels
4      Plane of Air
12      Water stance
19      Item
6      Insightful (Brazenband)
3      Shadar Kai past life
9      Reaper points (max)
57      Dodge possible (of course not needed)

Dodge Cap
25      Base
2      Ship
4      Plane of Air
8      Water Stance
1      Reaper Dodge cap (all the points I have left after maxing wis, 2 more possible)
40      Dodge Cap

Double Strike
9      EPL
2      Guild
3      Scourge past lives
22      Mantle of Fury
10      Insightful (Packbanner)
10      Vistani Core 3 and tier 4
12      Natural Fighting
2      celerity 2 piece filligree
20      Rapid Slash
90      100% uptime
5      Aasimar Divine Purpose
95      When needed
Or
10      Vistani Core 4 (25% of the time)
100

Earthquake DC (Salt Ray) (Swap to Nocturne with 9 wis filigree in hand to cast, staff so stay centered)
10      base
8      spell level
53      wis mod
8      evocation focus
1          quality evocation focus
3      insightful evo focus
2      artifact bonus
4      Plane of Air
4      reaper
3      reaper boost
93/96      EQ DC- Which main forums say should work quite well (Salt Ray 5 less DC)

Dire Charge/Snowslide-

20-base (snowslide 19 base)
22-Stunning
6-insightful combat mastery cc crafted
4-Quality combat mastery
50-wis (can be 3 more w/filligree)
3-past life fighter
6-dreadnaught legendary tactics (twist)
25-Deadly instinct
2-Aasimar Fallen Core 3
2-Reaper (could have more if have more reaper points)

140       Dire Charge/Snowslide dc (snowslide 1 less)


Head-    Executioner Helm-(seekr, insight decp, 4 quality cmbt mstr)
Neck-    Fleetfoot (Wis 20, natural armor 20, knockdown, Mists) (ALT Dawns herald 19 wis mists)
Eyes-    Van Richten;s (Dex 20,mrr 52, rflx 16, Mists)  (ALT Evo focus/Accuracy/Ins wis)
Trinket-CC Craft (Resistance 12, Heal Amp 61, Insightful Wis 7) (Alt Ravenkind)
Armor-  Mantle of Escher (2 profane, prr 52, Ghostly, Beacon of Magic)
Cloak-   Mantle of Fury ( 19 con, Dodge 19, dblstrk 22, Mists)
Wrist-   Packbanner (10% instfl dblstrike, 9 insftfl con, druid prr, Mists)
Hands- Blurfinger (Lsr Displacement, Beacon of Magic)
Waist-  Thrumming/Silverthread (202 elec/cold or pos/neg, Beacon of Magic)
Ring-   Perfect PInnacle (22 stun, 16 deadly, stances, Mists)
Ring-   Brazenband (insight evo 3, speed, ins dodge 6)
Feet-         Slavelord (Wizardry 371, Accuracy 28, Spot 22, Qual Wis 4) (ALT Wiz/Resist14/Spel Mastery/Qual wis)


Wpn-      Suffering (Slot Devotion and Deconstructor)& cc dagger ((CC Dagger-Vengeful (gives constant rage), Insight combat mastery 6, Insigt Deadly 5))
Wpn-      Suffering and Dust offhand dagger
Wpn-      Suffering and Legendary Affirmation
Wpn-      Pain & cc dagger
Wpn-      Nocturne (Evocation 8, Quality Evo 1, Massive force sp)
Wpn-      CC crafted Devotion insightful Devotion

NotATurbineEmploye wrote on Mar 19^th, 2019 at 5:42am:


As shown in the break down Snowslide effectively follows the Dire Charge formula. Only difference is it is highest of str/wis instead of any ability score. It also has base 19 instead of 20.

Running this again. New gear has pushed up stun dcs to awesome levels. Will post update soon
Still my favorite build.

Hit level 12, and this build really did start to soar. Numerous times now I've been keeping the party alive with heals while crushing mobs... Thanks again for this build

Should hit 20 today, looking forward to seeing how it handles epic content.

Tolem wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2020 at 12:56pm:


With a few changes it is better than ever.  I am running it now and soloing R4 and 5 at speed as I level. 

Switched it to 17druid/2rog/1fghtr (or barbarian).

Go 2 handed fighting in Bear form.  I'm actually going Tier 5 falconry now. 

It can literally do everything.