Hey guys,

Hoping to get some criticism and tips on how to improve a build I just rolled. Not sure if the build, gear or the player suck.

I TR-ed my main in a wolf build, currently lvl 6 and when Lamma was up I decided to see what it would look like at cap.
Unfortunately my best Kobold time was 46 seconds, which was kinda disappointing.
(My skills arent stellar either, but decent, so I was hoping for at least under 30 sec kobold)

Here's the build:

Druid 9/Cleric 5/Barbarian 6
True Neutral Human  --> Don't have racial points so I went for the extra feat+skill points

Stats
Strength. . . . 18 + level ups
Dexterity . . . ..8
Constitution. .16
Intelligence. . .8
Wisdom. . . . ..8
Charisma. . . .16

Skills:
Max UMD, Hide, Heal, Concentration, leftover in whatever. I put some in Spot, because it helps with Baiting bite


Feats

.1. . . . : Power Attack
.1 Human: Force of Personality
.3. . . . : Completionist
.6. . . . : Natural Fighting
.9. . . . : Improved Crit: Slashing
12. . . . : Natural Fighting
15. . . . : Natural Fighting
18. . . . : Quicken Spell
21 Epic . : Overwhelming Critical
24 Epic . : Empower Healing
26 Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
27 Epic . : Blinding Speed/ Or whatever
28 Destiny: Tactician
29 Destiny: Dire Charge
30 Epic . : Past life: Rogue
30 Legend : Scion of: Ethereal Plane


Enhancements (80 AP)

Occult Slayer (34)
-Tier 5 for extra crit/range + bond of retribution without health requirement;
-long rages, guardian bond, ear smash, kinetic bond for extra damage
-10 melee power clickie in expense for weapon bond

Frenzied Berserker (24)
- Cleaves, sprint boost, frenzy, extra rages, blood tribute and cracking attack with all its upgrades

Wolf tree (11)
-Flight, Ghost wolf, 3rd core for reduced cooldown of spells while in animal form

Nature's Protector (8)
-Some prr + extra rages and 10 melee power while raging in animal form

War Soul (3)
- Divine Might

Destiny (24 AP)

Legendary Dreadnought
Legendary Tactics III, Extra Action Boost III
Imp. Power Attack
Critical Damage III, Haste Boost III
2x Strength
(none)
Advancing Blows, Devastating Critical
Master's Blitz

Twists of Fate
Sense Weakness (Tier 4)
Symetric Strikes (Tier 4)
Primal Scream (Tier 1)

Gearwise, I had the ravenloft stuff - all the str, doublestrike I could get
+ Reflection of Blackrazor with 5 piece Prowess and 2 Piece Sucker Punch for the extra melee power and sneak attack

Str was around 98 self buffed, could get to at least 110 if I had tried, but I didn't; doublestrike around 80ish; Melee power with everything running must have been somewhere around 230?? maybe a bit higher.
Hide was lowish ~ mid 50's... also just figured out I forgot to use Sneak of Shadows when I did the tests... *cough cough

Any tips for improvement?
Thanks!

Why it sucks? Frankly put cleric on a non-Iconic is useless for a wolf.

The only reason you're going to use cleric is for Sylvanus mauls.

On to the barbarian deal. Really your mileage on barbarian splashes entirely comes down to player competency and what you're doing.

Running T5 Occult Slayer is a big part of your issue.

If you want a decent wolf barbarian here's the secret. T5 Ravager nets your +2 threat range and bloodrage. Blood rage does not suffer penalties in reaper. You want to take 12 levels of druid in that case to pick up +1 crit multiplier and more wolf based goodies. So you're looking at 12 Druid/6 Barbarian if you want to pick up the core stuff. Final two levels are up to you but can be filled in without much brain power. Want better heals/utility? Take 2 more druid. Want to actually use evasion since you're going to be running silent avenger and in light armor anyway? Slap on two rogue, which also boosts your sneak attack die. Want to go full strength tard for whatever reason? Take 2 FVS and call me in the morning.

Final key notes are itemization based; or rather WEAPON based. First of all; I'm going ahead and saying it outloud. Despite what a few obnoxious tards will tell you; Two Handed is not great for wolves. Even if you go full retard on boosting your rage from both the bear tree and all three barbarian trees, and hell even half orc if you've got the racial AP to pull it off, it just plain aint going to be worth the 1.5x mainstat boost. Additionally no matter what weapon you use as an animal; Power Attack counts it as a two hander for the damage bonus.

Secondly, if you aren't using a Soulrazor and Dethek Runestone, you might as well not be serious about DPS. The Dethek was previously pretty meh despite the +2W, but now it also gives you insightful devotion and 17 natural armor off the bat making it attractive for any druid, hell more attractive than any two hander including Scorpion Sting. A druid with Soul Razor and Dethek Runestone now has a weapon die of 9d8+3 (highest one hander weapon damage in the game) and clocks in around 150 base damage iirc per the item description. They also have 45% crit chance at an X4 multiplier when you use the aforementioned setup with knight's training. Not to mention a healthy but not amazing sneak attack of 6d6 (8d6 if rogue levels), which wearing the silent avenger pieces means you're going to get to about 100 bonus damage per swing.

And as painful as it might be on the AP; you really are better off taking the rage stuff out of the bear tree than you are spreading the wealth to the barbarian trees with the Ravager wolf. Being able to cast spells while raging is the greatest damn gift that keeps giving when you don't die or even keep those other gimps calling themselves melees alive with the odd regenerate.

Hmm, that seems interesting. Will give it a try when (if) Lamma comes up again.
The reason I went thf is that I wanted to use my SoS for leveling. Also have Reflection of Blackrazor, but no Dethek Runestone... yet.
I copied/adapted the build from something I saw Symbiont run on his R Killing Time Duo on youtube.
I assumed he knows what he is doing..
But will surely try the ravager path too, seems like an interesting (better?) build idea

NotATurbineEmploye wrote on Mar 15^th, 2019 at 6:54am:



Dont ever try to do what Symbiont does bro, he is way out your league. You need the reaper points, racials, and game knowledge to make this work. Stick to being pure

UnknownBuilder wrote on Mar 15^th, 2019 at 8:32am:


The racials do nothing for the build that they wouldnt do for any other dps build. The only thing that horc has going is the auto-crit + helpless damage.  I was referencing my boss dps, which has nothing to do with helpless.

And the horc is Nightmare, Symbiont is (was) aasimar in that video.

NotATurbineEmploye wrote on Mar 15^th, 2019 at 8:40am:


You have tried to adapt a build without understanding it. The 2 man KT vid was an 8/6/6 Sylvanus Tremor build which is fundamentally different from your build.

He went 6 cleric for Sylvanus + destruction domain, which allows him to self-heal with cleric while raging. I got that guys.
I just like 5 cleric for the extra domain flexibility, but I understand why it looks like I missed the point.

So if I'm going for a mid-high reaper with guildies +reaper raids, would you say the 12 druid/6barb/2 fvs is best?
I'm assuming non-raging as well so I can cast. I believe ravager T5 are active even outside of rage? Wiki seems to indicate so.

Thanks for the feedback so far! 

NotATurbineEmploye wrote on Mar 16^th, 2019 at 6:27am:


As the guy above me said 13/6/1 is better than 12/6/2.

That being said you don't have to rage for the ravager bonus.

But as I pointed out with both the twists and in my outline, you want to take the bear rage line and rage while wolfing out. It's going to ensure you have a super high +to hit, making up for the fact you're running power attack.  You don't need to be in bear form to make use of the melee power boosts, energy drain immunity, etc. from the rage line. You also pick up some PRR and MRR in doing so, all of which you're going to need.

Even in mid reaper a barb wolf can survive a few hits because of the barbarian flat percentage reduction and the combination of PRR and MRR. As well as dethek runestone's 15/adamantine, which would seem useless but all sources add up in the long haul.

Edrein wrote on Mar 15^th, 2019 at 6:32am:


Do no do this. Maybe for lvling Ravager can be acceptable, but when you hit 30 and start doing endgame content, change to Frenzied Berseker, wich is the big reason for going barb and is the max DPS all top players are using. If you are not going silvanus, Tail is basically the only thf viable option in the endgame, all other two handed suck. You can put more barb or druid lv depending if you want more druid spells or barb DR, no point in more than 1 lv of clerc/fvs. I think if silvanus go 8/6/6 druid/barb/divine, if not 11/8/1 barb/druid/divine

Edrein wrote on Mar 15^th, 2019 at 6:32am:


ok just don't listen to this guy's advice

Edrein wrote on Mar 15^th, 2019 at 6:32am:


yeah really do not do this, the low hanging stuff in bear tree is great. Do FB 33 AP with the tier 5s, nature's warrior tier 4s 25-30 AP, Nature's protector 9 AP (PRR, 10 melee power, core 2), warpriest 4 AP (divine might 3/3), occult slayer 6 AP (core 2, ear smash 3/3, knockout), rest wathever

A last note on your feats. You want to be in Arborea I belive. And I'd change quicken to weapon focus slash, and empower heal to epic DR.

And yes, be in LD. This guy is either trolling or no idea what he is saying. And play raged. And a correction: kt duo was normal not R.

nah, you don't want to be cleaving on a wolf. There isn't something better than the rogue pl really.

Best build to deal with trolls is a dragonborn fire/acid savant --> perfect spell-points-to-burned-flesh ratio.
Incidentally thats what I was playing last life... shouldnt have TR-ed

Hm no core 2. Was thinking about a build tight in AP to get stuff in racial tree. Since he's human I'd go with core 2, so 7 AP there

Teth wrote on Mar 17^th, 2019 at 8:51pm:


Him or me?