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Jun 13th, 2020 at 3:26am
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So i bought 250 of each box from the dupe store but now id like to avoid the incoming ban hammer, where is a good place to hide about twelve grand worth of illicit goods? pms are probably better
  
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Reply #1 - Jun 13th, 2020 at 6:28am
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I'd hide them behind rocks in bushes in the Restless Isles.  Nobody goes there.
  

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Reply #2 - Jun 13th, 2020 at 7:01am
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You need to store them on other accounts.  Since the boxes and stones are tradeable and mailable, I created a burner account (or five) and I will use them exclusively to receive and store the boxes.  When I need a box on my main, I'll trade one to my main.  For safety, don't store all of them on one account.

Using the stones requires a little OPSEC as well.  Don't level up like a madman at the same trainer for hours on end.  Its a dead giveaway.  I would use different trainers as often as possible and if possible at off hours.

And for God's sake don't tell anyone, no one, absolutely no one in game what you're doing.  A secret is only a secret if one person (you) knows it.
  
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Reply #3 - Jun 13th, 2020 at 9:25am
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Notanarc wrote on Jun 13th, 2020 at 7:01am:
You need to store them on other accounts.  Since the boxes and stones are tradeable and mailable, I created a burner account (or five) and I will use them exclusively to receive and store the boxes.  When I need a box on my main, I'll trade one to my main.  For safety, don't store all of them on one account.

Using the stones requires a little OPSEC as well.  Don't level up like a madman at the same trainer for hours on end.  Its a dead giveaway.  I would use different trainers as often as possible and if possible at off hours.

And for God's sake don't tell anyone, no one, absolutely no one in game what you're doing.  A secret is only a secret if one person (you) knows it.



Not bad. Although the last one would probably be enough.
  


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Head-Meat wrote on Jun 13th, 2020 at 9:25am:
Not bad. Although the last one would probably be enough.


Exactly. It’s not like you told anyone that you bought a bunch of stuff from the dupe store and verified their product and delivery on a public forum. <3
  

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Reply #5 - Jun 13th, 2020 at 12:15pm
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I was thinking maybe make guilds with guild storage to keep them in.  Ii only takes lv 19
  
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Reply #6 - Jun 13th, 2020 at 1:02pm
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Also maybe don't use any other exploits yourself?

No ones been caught for buying duped goods(REALLY hard to track that) but you could easily get caught for using an exploit yourself.
  

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Reply #7 - Jun 13th, 2020 at 5:10pm
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Cordovan wrote on Jun 13th, 2020 at 12:15pm:
I was thinking maybe make guilds with guild storage to keep them in.  Ii only takes lv 19

is this a good option?


noamineo wrote on Jun 13th, 2020 at 1:02pm:
Also maybe don't use any other exploits yourself?

dont really know any tbh

Notanarc wrote on Jun 13th, 2020 at 7:01am:
You need to store them on other accounts.


already doing this, only one not 5. kinda waiting for any heat to die downNotanarc wrote on Jun 13th, 2020 at 7:01am:
And for God's sake don't tell anyone, no one, absolutely no one in game what you're doing.  A secret is only a secret if one person (you) knows it.


no one knows. Notanarc wrote on Jun 13th, 2020 at 7:01am:
Don't level up like a madman at the same trainer for hours on end.  Its a dead giveaway.  I would use different trainers as often as possible and if possible at off hours


think i should space the lives out a bit? i mean thats allot of tokens and seeds as it is so i cant do it all at once anyway but i gould farm pretty quick considering how fast ill burn through lives

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tly. It’s not like you told anyone that you bought a bunch of stuff from the dupe store and verified their product and delivery on a public forum. <3

not like my vault account can be traced to my game account.
  
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lostthenloved wrote on Jun 13th, 2020 at 5:10pm:
think i should space the lives out a bit? i mean thats allot of tokens and seeds as it is so i cant do it all at once anyway but i gould farm pretty quick considering how fast ill burn through lives


I don't think it matters in terms of being caught/not being caught(after all: legit players DO buy stacks of ottos boxes...) but just from a "this is something we do for fun" angle spacing them out might be wise. Use the opportunity to play builds you wouldn't normally try(thats what I want to do). Sniff a few flowers, and know that you'll be wracking up PLs like nodoby's buisness.

Keep in mind: once you git triple everything completionist... there wont be anything left for a while.

lostthenloved wrote on Jun 13th, 2020 at 5:10pm:
not like my vault account can be traced to my game account.


Hopefully that's true of all of us.


Also, SirJoseph, if you're listening: I'm ready to buy if you're ready to sell Tongue Just aint seen you online in a couple days!
  

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Reply #9 - Jun 13th, 2020 at 6:17pm
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noamineo wrote on Jun 13th, 2020 at 5:41pm:
"this is something we do for fun"


thats true but i bought the auto boxes to get me back to where i was before i was permabaned when i have 3 tripleish completionest toons. ill still play but goddamned it felt good to give someone money who was fucking over turbine/ssg. hope he stays in business after the shit they pulled burn it down untill they learn.
  
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Reply #10 - Jun 13th, 2020 at 6:29pm
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Ouch, yeah that sucks. Well still worth taking the slow way, at the very least because rushing is stressful and repetative!
  

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lostthenloved wrote on Jun 13th, 2020 at 3:26am:
So i bought 250 of each box from the dupe store but now id like to avoid the incoming ban hammer, where is a good place to hide about twelve grand worth of illicit goods? pms are probably better


Are you in a guild? You might want to not be in one while you level.

“Hey, congratulations [username] for hitting 20. Again. Weren’t you a Sorc 20 minutes ago? And a Fighter 30 minutes before that?”

Purely hypothetically speaking, of course.
  
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NOTpopejubal wrote on Jun 13th, 2020 at 6:30pm:
Are you in a guild? You might want to not be in one while you level.

“Hey, congratulations [username] for hitting 20. Again. Weren’t you a Sorc 20 minutes ago? And a Fighter 30 minutes before that?”

Purely hypothetically speaking, of course.


fair point, ill keep that in mind. ty
  
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Reply #13 - Jun 13th, 2020 at 7:51pm
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NOTpopejubal wrote on Jun 13th, 2020 at 6:30pm:
Are you in a guild? You might want to not be in one while you level.

“Hey, congratulations [username] for hitting 20. Again. Weren’t you a Sorc 20 minutes ago? And a Fighter 30 minutes before that?”

Purely hypothetically speaking, of course.


The guild i'm in could care less.  At least one of the officers does it himself.
  
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Reply #14 - Jun 13th, 2020 at 8:52pm
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They will eventually put loggers in for ottos trades if they are not retarded. Then they look to see how many new accounts are passing multiple ottos trades. Ottos trades are not that common.

IMO you wanna think like them. You say, "how would they go about figuring out where these duped goods are?", then "how do we find who these goods were traded/sold to"

I do not think they are competent enough to cross-reference ottos purchases with inventories. This would allow them to eliminate most legitimate box holders, i.e, remove you from the "investigate list".

I would use an account that is not new (preferably from a vet who quit 2-3 years ago) to keep the boxes on. Then I would use all the boxes ASAP since they are probably already working on the solution. Duped goods are much easier to delete than characters they've been applied to.

But I haven't been playing so I'm just bullshitting here.
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lostthenloved wrote on Jun 13th, 2020 at 5:10pm:


not like my vault account can be traced to my game account.



This. How is SSG supposed to find out I play a toon named Drizzt on Sarona? It’s the perfect cover.
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Reply #16 - Jun 13th, 2020 at 9:13pm
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WonderfulFoppyBint wrote on Jun 13th, 2020 at 8:52pm:
. . Then I would use all the boxes ASAP since they are probably already working on the solution..


This guy DDOs.

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Reply #17 - Jun 13th, 2020 at 10:13pm
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I'm not really an expert on the subject of duping but heres my two cents...

1.) Do not tell others about the items you have, the dupes you use, or the exploits you take part in, I have heard about bans from people who have told others... DO NOT tell others, your just asking for someone to report your toon.

2.) Do not use multiple boxes in a single 24 hour period, do 1 TR every few days, like a normal player would, maybe a few extra TRs on the weekends, but keep it to a sane level...

3.) Store the boxes on multiple accounts, created with multiple IPs, at multiple times, with multiple computers, in multiple timezones, with multiple keyboards, and different emails, different monitors, ISPs, processors, motherboads, you get the picture right? Also change the accounts out often, keep the contraband moving, and you should be ok.

4.) Do not level up in the same place, eat the box on your guild airship, or somewhere your positive no1 else is around, then go to a trainer do a few levels (like your hard-capped) and then move on to the next trainer, the time spent will help you in the long run I promise.

5.) SSG is going to figure a way out on tracking boxes and duping, it may take them a few hours from this post it may take them years, but do not be mistaken, its going to happen, dupe/buy now, use them now, and the last guy holding the bag will be the loser...

6.) Keep in mind, they have an old database, and an old game here, so while they can track things, this is NOT Guild Wars 2...

7.) You ARE cheating, You ARE breaking the ToS, and if you get banned You DO deserve to be banned for it... Please don't QQ to me when you get banned, follow these precautions, be safe, give yourself the gift of plausible denability, and grab yourself a lawyer friend to draw up a notice of intent if you get banned, and then ofc remember...all sales are final...

8.) Have fun, this is an old game enjoy it while it lasts...

Regards,

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Reply #18 - Jun 13th, 2020 at 10:58pm
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ddoplayer98 wrote on Jun 13th, 2020 at 10:13pm:
dupe/buy now, use them now, and the last guy holding the bag will be the loser...


I keep tryin' to buy! Bro where you at?

J/k I know you're swamped and I'm small potatoes.
  

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Head-Meat wrote on Jun 13th, 2020 at 9:08pm:
This. How is SSG supposed to find out I play a toon named Drizzt on Sarona? It’s the perfect cover.

I got banned on Fark.com for making this same joke.

I forget the specifics, but my post went something like this: "[...] I paid my bill at the restaurant, with credit card # 1234-5678-9101-1121, exp 9/20, ccv 555, and they charged me double! ", except I used a more realistic-looking credit card number.

The whole point of the post was to troll the people that come out of the woodwork saying "HA! NEWB POSTED HIS CC NUMBER HAHAH YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO INTERNET!" In addition to a slew of people in the thread, I ended up snagging the site staff. When I explained to them that that was the joke, they came back with "well it could be someone's credit card number!" and refused to rescind my ban.

I took that as indication of a troll well done Grin
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Amusing that half of ddoplayer98's warnings are "don't do it somewhere busybodies can see."

Fucking busybodies.
  
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Strake wrote on Jun 14th, 2020 at 9:45am:
I got banned on Fark.com for making this same joke.

I forget the specifics, but my post went something like this: "[...] I paid my bill at the restaurant, with credit card # 1234-5678-9101-1121, exp 9/20, ccv 555, and they charged me double! ", except I used a more realistic-looking credit card number.

The whole point of the post was to troll the people that come out of the woodwork saying "HA! NEWB POSTED HIS CC NUMBER HAHAH YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO INTERNET!" In addition to a slew of people in the thread, I ended up snagging the site staff. When I explained to them that that was the joke, they came back with "well it could be someone's credit card number!" and refused to rescind my ban.

I took that as indication of a troll well done Grin


I thought about being less obvious than Drizzt to push that a little more. But, I’m just not good troll material.  :/

Anyway, I think we know what to learn from that: 

Vault >>> Fark
  


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Strake wrote on Jun 14th, 2020 at 9:48am:
Amusing that half of ddoplayer98's warnings are "don't do it somewhere busybodies can see."

Fucking busybodies.



When I did it a lot, I boxed pretty recklessly. Then again, when you’re doing iconics, you end up using different areas. Some start in Wheloon, some in Sharn, and one in House C. Besides Sharn, the other two are sparsely used. But I didn’t do anything fancy to hide. Then again, I didn’t care if I was banned. It would probably be a blessing. Save me money and time doing something not very productive.
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Strake wrote on Mar 31st, 2020 at 1:51pm:
Like every group, there are schlubs and there are stars, and a lot in between. Pick your cause and I can say the same thing about the associated group.
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Reply #23 - Jun 14th, 2020 at 5:48pm
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Head-Meat wrote on Jun 14th, 2020 at 11:09am:
It would probably be a blessing


It absolutely is.
  

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Munkenmo wrote on Jun 14th, 2020 at 5:48pm:
It absolutely is.



BUT HOW ELSE WILL I GRIND OUT THE MATS TO MAKE MY PRIMARY STAT 1-2 HIGHER THAN IT IS NOW!?!?!
  


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Like every group, there are schlubs and there are stars, and a lot in between. Pick your cause and I can say the same thing about the associated group.
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