Big changes liiiiiiiiiiiiiike??

I would think that if Daybreak really owns a significant percentage of SSG/Turdbine that they would be getting money out of if more effectively.  Daybreak is pretty good at milking products until the cow dries up.  I also think #2 is entirely possible; SSG's compensation model probably sucks ass.

Prostetnic Vogon Jeltz wrote on Nov 7^th, 2020 at 9:22am:

Not sure about it either, but I'm willing to bet it includes the phrase "no lube".

noamineo wrote on Nov 10^th, 2020 at 3:44pm:

Better question,  what the hell does a publisher do for a game that doesn't print physical copies?  Sure as hell isn't advertising.

noamineo wrote on Nov 10^th, 2020 at 3:44pm:



Then why is Daybreak advertising for a DDO Producer for LOTRO?

Notanarc wrote on Nov 10^th, 2020 at 5:18pm:


Because SSG asked/paid them to?

Daybreak is a well-known company with a high degree of visibility. SSG is not. Compare the websites:

http://standingstonegames.com/

*Exactly 1 page
*All content consists of links to other sites

Or:

http://standingstonegames.com/

*Many sub pages
*Many games
*Various other resources and news
*Oh, and, has an actual careers page that might have enough visibility to actually get seen.

No one goes o SSG's page but people likely check out Daybreak's careers page on a regular basis.

Notanarc wrote on Nov 10^th, 2020 at 7:06pm:


Simple incompetence, maybe? You do need a username and a password to use LinkedIn.

But for reals this sort of thing is extremely common in the games industry. Daybreak has the profile and the actual exposure. They're using the "our" and "we" language to make it appear that they are one big company which owns multiple studios, which makes them appear much larger on the industry stage.

This ins turn makes it easier for them to attract better talent. Its a pretty standard bait-and-switch approach you see all over the tech industry(of which video games are technically a part) with particularly shady companies. Daybreak presents themselves as a large player who owns many studios, and that put them on the same level as Blizzard or EA. Suddenly potential hires who wouldn't look twice as 'standing stone games' are sitting up and taking notice.

Then you're halfway through the interview process before you figure out what's actually happening.



Its also possible SSG has outsourced its human resources department to Daybreak(this would not be remotely surprising). Basically, rather than have your own in-house department to handle payroll, staffing, legal, etc, for the all of 6 people who actually work on the games, SSG has Daybreak do all that. Cuts down on headcount, but also makes them utterly dependent on Daybreak.

None of that however means that daybreak "owns" any of SSG. It just means the companies are slightly more intertwined that traditional publisher/studio relationships.

goldgolem wrote on Nov 12^th, 2020 at 9:27am:


You take that back! Sev probably has a 1% interest in the company. 

Turns out I was right


https://massivelyop.com/2020/12/01/daybreak-has-been-sold-again-this-time-to-eg7
-global-for-300m/

"And now we know Daybreak owns SSG, LOTRO, and DDO for sure"

What exactly does a publisher do for a 100% online game like DDO?

noamineo wrote on Dec 6^th, 2020 at 2:21pm:


At a guess.... to avoid being tied as a subsidiary of the company well known for shutting down MMO games ( cue : SWG, TMO )