cheap beer for days wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2021 at 4:24pm:

That isn't even the problem. If that were the only thing the game would be better off for it as newer players could land DCs. The problem is that their mob scaling is going to be pure doodoo. Walking into Sharn on r10 with a now 115 Dire Charge DC doesn't work. Maybe 20%. Tops. After ED nerfs those DCs will be lower from base ability + lowered from no ED stat increases. By my tests today you need around 125+ to no fail Sharn r10. Unless you got all racials, all completionist, and fighter lives you are not ever going to land in r10 Sharn on most builds. Some very niche and rare DC abomination builds like a PDK using charisma will work.

Otherwise this whole thing is just a whale milking farm.

Rubbinns wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2021 at 6:07pm:



Not sure why you think it will be a whale milking farm, nothing from U50 or U51 so far makes me want to buy a damn thing and I am definatley a whale.

I may actually might turn into one of those shitters that stops paying 15/month like its real money if not just playing something else.

Cripey wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2021 at 8:01pm:

Sunken costs with time, money isn't a factor to you here, but there are plenty that skipped time with money and this is fine for them as they can continue to play without being completely removed from their abilities working in game.

I don't want to grind hours a day on endless trs over the course of a year so that i can play end game well enough. This is not the game for people with my opinion on endgame viability. All this does is remove another rung off the bottom of the ladder, which is increasingly bad for population, but great for anyone who paid or spent infinite hours. I have already spent infi hours from my 2 bans and deletions, and i was never shy about paying them ( not on your level, but way higher than average ).

IG i can play ranged... that sounds sick!

After seeing all of this update crap, my only regret is not following the Vault motto.... Exploit early and exploit often...

5 Foot Step wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2021 at 1:51pm:



I made that proposal a couple years back.. with the express fantasy of making it to lvl 40 with 20 levels of Pali and 20 levels of warlock

*fap*fap*fap* 

Edrein wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2021 at 2:33pm:


They would *probably* do something to stop you having infinite shit like that.

But yes I would still have rather had 20 in 2 classes or 40 in 1 than what we're getting.

Or rather what you're getting. I can't see myself continuing to play with these item nerfs.

Prostetnic Vogon Jeltz wrote on Jun 24^th, 2021 at 10:26am:


You didn't want to wait to see if just maybe they back down?

Prostetnic Vogon Jeltz wrote on Jun 24^th, 2021 at 6:44pm:


You're not wrong.

Everytime I take a break from DDO it is because of the hazzle with gear. Do I have that BTA item on an alt? In TR cache? Why are the BTA bank filtes so bad? How does that item bind? Did I just bind a BtCoe item to the wrong char? Why is there not one item I could fit in my open slot that does anything for my build?

I would be a time saver to track items in Excel.. but that would feel like work and if I do Excel want to get paid for it.

The VoK guys are working on something called Trove.

Just an update on our Inventory project progress:

The name of the inventory application will be "Trove". It is one part of the larger Dungeon Helper (DH) application framework that we are currently working on. DH will be a fully functional plugin-based framework in which any .net developer can create their own plugins. Trove, as well as a port/migration of MyDDO, will be using this framework in it's initial release. I want to make sure people are aware of how big of an undertaking this is. Creating this framework is the foundation of having many developers create their own stuff.

In the development industry, there is a phrase that applies to publishing a framework, SDK, or toolkit: you should "eat your own dog food". That is to say, we should first be users of our SDK. Trove and the MyDDO port will both be built on the Dungeon Helper SDK that will get published as a Nuget package. VoK already publishes 1 Nuget package for reading the dat files, but this one will be much larger and include all the internal workings necessary to build applications like Trove and MyDDO.

Trove is now able to scan your inventory for items you have in your pack as well as items in your bank. We have not investigated the possibility of scanning for items in Shared Bank (c'mon, do it yourself) or TR cache (could be easy, we just haven't tried - but as mostly BtC loot, we figure it's not priority). We can also now upload discovered items into our cloud database. The first version of Trove will come with some (unfortunate) limitations until we are able to figure out how to solve a few problems:
* Item effects will be missing
* In random loot, the numerical values in the item name will be missing ("Health 6 Ring of Whatever 22" will just be "Health Ring of Whatever")

Source: VoK discord

noamineo wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2021 at 3:03pm:


Incorrect, they stack currently.

And since they both scale off stats, you can currently do it with a 12 bard/4 warlock build. Problem is those classes create a miasma of dogshit as far being anymore useful than a walking temp HP aura for your party.

Not long after update 29.

Ship was already sinking and Cuntoban was all happy jerking off all over the place. That bitch is the main reason I've quit this game shit.

Interesting to see that DDO still has survived since then.

Mattyo wrote on Jul 10^th, 2021 at 11:42pm:


If they were trying to plug the holes they would do at the very least fuck-all about player retention. Right now zero fucks are given to player retention.