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Bishop Stormreaver Piker Offline Nothing lasts forever but the earth and sky. Posts: 651 Joined: Oct 24^th, 2018	exploiter arrested in Japan Jul 10^th, 2021 at 2:19pm	Print Post
	https://kotaku.com/man-arrested-for-selling-modded-zelda-save-files-1847265984 Serves him right.


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ZooperDooper Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1207 Joined: Oct 27^th, 2014	Re: exploiter arrested in Japan Reply #1 - Jul 10^th, 2021 at 2:38pm	Print Post
	ouch


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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 9183 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: exploiter arrested in Japan Reply #2 - Jul 10^th, 2021 at 6:08pm	Print Post
	...the fuck? Isn't zelda a single-player game?

	I'll never understand the propensity of people to brag about being good at a video game. Its a toy you play with for fun. The only person who should be proud of you is your mother. If you're 3.
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Artorias Shroud Slacker Offline Posts: 1223 Joined: Mar 21^st, 2015	Re: exploiter arrested in Japan Reply #3 - Jul 10^th, 2021 at 6:27pm	Print Post
	noamineo wrote on Jul 10^th, 2021 at 6:08pm: ...the fuck? Isn't zelda a single-player game? Quote: Police in Japan have previously arrested folks for modifying video game software which violates the Unfair Competition Prevention Law in Japan. This same law was also used by Nintendo to sue a go-kart company in 2017. In 2015, another man in Japan was arrested after selling cheats in the popular online shooter Alliance of Valiant Arms.
	« Last Edit: Jul 10^th, 2021 at 6:29pm by Artorias »

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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 9183 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: exploiter arrested in Japan Reply #4 - Jul 11^th, 2021 at 1:44pm	Print Post
	Yes, arresting someone for selling cheats in an online shooter makes sense, that shit is competitive. There are sometimes hundreds of thousands of dollars riding on tournaments and cheating at that is as big a deal as cheating at professional sports. Where I'm confused is that the zelda game is a single player game. That ruling effectively makes it illegal to mod single-player games.

	I'll never understand the propensity of people to brag about being good at a video game. Its a toy you play with for fun. The only person who should be proud of you is your mother. If you're 3.
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GoodName Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 6 Joined: Apr 4^th, 2021	Re: exploiter arrested in Japan Reply #5 - Jul 11^th, 2021 at 4:07pm	Print Post
	just another slippery slope in a long line of bonkers since 2019.. or was it 1914 I forget I guess the law can be changed once the Japanese go extinct (since they don't have kids)


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Artorias Shroud Slacker Offline Posts: 1223 Joined: Mar 21^st, 2015	Re: exploiter arrested in Japan Reply #6 - Jul 11^th, 2021 at 4:49pm	Print Post
	noamineo wrote on Jul 11^th, 2021 at 1:44pm: Yes, arresting someone for selling cheats in an online shooter makes sense, that shit is competitive. There are sometimes hundreds of thousands of dollars riding on tournaments and cheating at that is as big a deal as cheating at professional sports. Where I'm confused is that the zelda game is a single player game. That ruling effectively makes it illegal to mod single-player games. I can only assume it's because you are still making money based on someone else's work hence, the "unfair competition". One Percenter would totally know more about this Anyway, if you think about it, even single player games we buy on steam have their terms of use/EULA/agreements that you have to accept in order to play. I once read a couple of them and they actually stated that you accept to not make money by altering part of the code and stuff like that.


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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 9183 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: exploiter arrested in Japan Reply #7 - Jul 11^th, 2021 at 6:52pm	Print Post
	Artorias wrote on Jul 11^th, 2021 at 4:49pm: I can only assume it's because you are still making money based on someone else's work hence, the "unfair competition". One Percenter would totally know more about this Anyway, if you think about it, even single player games we buy on steam have their terms of use/EULA/agreements that you have to accept in order to play. I once read a couple of them and they actually stated that you accept to not make money by altering part of the code and stuff like that. I see, so you're suggesting its the "making money" part, not the "cheating" part, that makes a certain amount of sense. Otherwise the Elder Scrolls Construction Set would have to be banned in Japan, seeing as you can use it to "cheat" and all. That being said, I actually find it fairly impressive that anyone paid real money for cheats on a single-player game. I've been cheating at video games since mere hours after I got my first computer. I've used save-game editors, hex editors, every glitch you can name. Never spent a dime to cheat on a single-player game(unless you count buying a game expressly because I heard it had fun cheats), and can't imagine why anyone would. Cheating at single-player games, like oxygen, is free.

	I'll never understand the propensity of people to brag about being good at a video game. Its a toy you play with for fun. The only person who should be proud of you is your mother. If you're 3.
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Artorias Shroud Slacker Offline Posts: 1223 Joined: Mar 21^st, 2015	Re: exploiter arrested in Japan Reply #8 - Jul 12^th, 2021 at 8:37am	Print Post
	noamineo wrote on Jul 11^th, 2021 at 6:52pm: I see, so you're suggesting its the "making money" part, not the "cheating" part, that makes a certain amount of sense. Otherwise the Elder Scrolls Construction Set would have to be banned in Japan, seeing as you can use it to "cheat" and all. That being said, I actually find it fairly impressive that anyone paid real money for cheats on a single-player game. I've been cheating at video games since mere hours after I got my first computer. I've used save-game editors, hex editors, every glitch you can name. Never spent a dime to cheat on a single-player game(unless you count buying a game expressly because I heard it had fun cheats), and can't imagine why anyone would. Cheating at single-player games, like oxygen, is free. The AC/DC explained it kinda well years ago Come on, come on, lovin' for the money Come on, come on, listen to the money talk I'm sure I don't have to explain this but money and pussy are what make the world spin.


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ZooperDooper Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1207 Joined: Oct 27^th, 2014	Re: exploiter arrested in Japan Reply #9 - Jul 12^th, 2021 at 9:01am	Print Post
	noamineo wrote on Jul 11^th, 2021 at 6:52pm: I've been cheating at video games since mere hours after I got my first computer. I've used save-game editors, hex editors, every glitch you can name. Yeah... every game I ever played.. I first ran it normal... then I ran it on the hardest difficulty it had.. then I hexed the shit out of it... the old SSI Gold Box games were how I got good... but I started with the Wizardry series on the Apple II's & IIe's


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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 9183 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: exploiter arrested in Japan Reply #10 - Jul 12^th, 2021 at 12:22pm	Print Post
	ZooperDooper wrote on Jul 12^th, 2021 at 9:01am: Yeah... every game I ever played.. I first ran it normal... then I ran it on the hardest difficulty it had.. then I hexed the shit out of it... the old SSI Gold Box games were how I got good... but I started with the Wizardry series on the Apple II's & IIe's For me it was pretty much get new game --> play game until it stopped being fun --> google [game title] + cheats --> continue having fun. Games are a toy and ain't nobody gonna tell me how to play with my toys.

	I'll never understand the propensity of people to brag about being good at a video game. Its a toy you play with for fun. The only person who should be proud of you is your mother. If you're 3.
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Shunned Stormreaver Piker Offline Hi! You have multiple personality disorder. Posts: 536 Location: Behind the edit button Joined: Nov 21^st, 2020	Re: exploiter arrested in Japan Reply #11 - Jul 12^th, 2021 at 11:03pm	Print Post
	ZooperDooper wrote on Jul 12^th, 2021 at 9:01am: Yeah... every game I ever played.. I first ran it normal... then I ran it on the hardest difficulty it had.. then I hexed the shit out of it... the old SSI Gold Box games were how I got good... but I started with the Wizardry series on the Apple II's & IIe's I remember seeing messages from the game developers in the code back then. "get out cheater" or somesuch


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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 9183 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: exploiter arrested in Japan Reply #12 - Jul 13^th, 2021 at 3:18pm	Print Post
	Shunned wrote on Jul 12^th, 2021 at 11:03pm: I remember seeing messages from the game developers in the code back then. "get out cheater" or somesuch Those were always entertaining. I have met people who were legitimately offended when other people cheated at single-player games. I always find them fucking HILARIOUS. This one guy I remember felt like it devalued his own accomplishments because he was able to beat the game on higher difficulty without cheats. I still laugh my ass off every time I remember that retard.

	I'll never understand the propensity of people to brag about being good at a video game. Its a toy you play with for fun. The only person who should be proud of you is your mother. If you're 3.
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Mattyo Dragon Raider Offline Rum & Coke. DO IT! Posts: 296 Joined: May 21^st, 2020	Re: exploiter arrested in Japan Reply #13 - Jul 13^th, 2021 at 5:47pm	Print Post
	Ooooo Diablo potion gold dupes, watch out!


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