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Legendary weapon DC effects worth it?
Dec 9th, 2021 at 3:45pm
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Was wondering if stuff like legendary sirocco,legenday telekinectic, etc that have DC 100 are worth using on high reapers after the nerf to mobs.
  
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Re: Legendary weapon DC effects worth it?
Reply #1 - Dec 10th, 2021 at 12:28am
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DnD wrote on Dec 9th, 2021 at 3:45pm:
Was wondering if stuff like legendary sirocco,legenday telekinectic, etc that have DC 100 are worth using on high reapers after the nerf to mobs.


Good Q.  In my expericne, before the nerf, I landed, but rarely.  But with a bard in the party bringing down mob saves, it was all the freaken time.  If you find its working great, then great.  Drop me a line.  But for the love of god dont reply to this post with any good news about the DC, cause those rat bastards will read it and nuke it.
  
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Reply #2 - Dec 10th, 2021 at 10:17pm
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Yeah, imagine if legendary effects were actually legendary  Cheesy
  
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Reply #3 - Dec 10th, 2021 at 10:30pm
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DnD wrote on Dec 10th, 2021 at 10:17pm:
Yeah, imagine if legendary effects were actually legendary  Cheesy


Wait...

you mean BESIDES Legendary sucktastic?
  
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Reply #4 - Dec 11th, 2021 at 2:09pm
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DnD wrote on Dec 10th, 2021 at 10:17pm:
Yeah, imagine if legendary effects were actually legendary  Cheesy


No matter what the effect is, the 1003rd time you use it, it's no longer legendary, it's just common. 

Like Superman and Kryptonite which is a commonly found or manufactured element.
  

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Reply #5 - Dec 15th, 2021 at 7:11am
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Problem with vorpal (or any low chance) procs - they never proc when you want.

You want cc/debuff proc early, vorpal to proc lately.

They are not reliable to use on r10, not meaningful at r1. Better switch for something with extra damage.
  

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Reply #6 - Dec 16th, 2021 at 4:28pm
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Absolutely love vorpal up to about ml5, then I couldn’t give a shit.  Sov Vorpal really needs to instakill kill mobs with at least 50k HP or lower to not be an absolute joke.  That said, I dunno what the ceiling would be before it gets considered OP.
  
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Reply #7 - Dec 16th, 2021 at 4:43pm
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Prostetnic Vogon Jeltz wrote on Dec 16th, 2021 at 4:28pm:
Absolutely love vorpal up to about ml5, then I couldn’t give a shit.  Sov Vorpal really needs to instakill kill mobs with at least 50k HP or lower to not be an absolute joke.  That said, I dunno what the ceiling would be before it gets considered OP.


How about install any mob thats not a red named? That seems reasonable for how insanely rare it is.
  

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Reply #8 - Dec 16th, 2021 at 5:01pm
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bad take, vorpal is nice for the +W.
  
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Reply #9 - Dec 16th, 2021 at 5:08pm
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Linker wrote on Dec 16th, 2021 at 5:01pm:
bad take, vorpal is nice for the +W.


As far as the vorpal effect itself goes, it’s utter fucking junk after low levels. 

Also, that +0.5W loses its luster the closer you get to cap.  Mind you, it does look marginally better since they neutered the fuck out of keen’s front end dice.
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Reply #10 - Dec 16th, 2021 at 5:39pm
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noamineo wrote on Dec 16th, 2021 at 4:43pm:
How about install any mob thats not a red named? That seems reasonable for how insanely rare it is.


I think that would wind up over performing to the point the devs would nuke the fuck out a bunch of other things just to balance it all out.
  
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Reply #11 - Dec 16th, 2021 at 5:42pm
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Prostetnic Vogon Jeltz wrote on Dec 16th, 2021 at 5:39pm:
I think that would wind up over performing to the point the devs would nuke the fuck out a bunch of other things just to balance it all out.


Yes, because god forbid we actually use rangen loot as the devs ahve repeatedly begged and pleaded  Roll Eyes

@SSG devs - if you want us to use your stupid trash then make the general-purpose stuff good enough to use. I am not fucking going through 89,000,000 items to find 1 with sov vorpal + useful affixes + augment slot + actually being a weapon I use.
  

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Reply #12 - Dec 16th, 2021 at 5:58pm
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noamineo wrote on Dec 16th, 2021 at 5:42pm:
Yes, because god forbid we actually use rangen loot as the devs ahve repeatedly begged and pleaded  Roll Eyes

@SSG devs - if you want us to use your stupid trash then make the general-purpose stuff good enough to use. I am not fucking going through 89,000,000 items to find 1 with sov vorpal + useful affixes + augment slot + actually being a weapon I use.


99.9999% of the time, RNG is little more than junk after low levels when compared to named loot.  It’d be nice if they’d narrow that gap, but it’s gonna take at least an extra weapon affix to do it.  I mean they tend to share the same weapon dice, but the effects and how they match up with each other are really what makes rng loot such a ragged mess.

Out of all the useful rng weapons I’ve looted over the years, I’ve only kept one that I didn’t blank for crafting…still have that fucker too!
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Re: Legendary weapon DC effects worth it?
Reply #13 - Dec 16th, 2021 at 6:42pm
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Prostetnic Vogon Jeltz wrote on Dec 16th, 2021 at 5:58pm:
99.9999% of the time, RNG is little more than junk after low levels when compared to named loot.  It’d be nice if they’d narrow that gap, but it’s gonna take at least an extra weapon affix to do it.  I mean they tend to share the same weapon dice, but the effects and how they match up with each other are really what makes rng loot such a ragged mess.

Out of all the useful rng weapons I’ve looted over the years, I’ve only kept one that I didn’t blank for crafting…still have that fucker too!


And the sad part is the devs have stated time and time again they want RNG to be relevant. This is unfortunately a core problem with SSG's design stratagem: they want it to be relevant but only 0.0001% of the time, because they want you to be working extra hard to open as many chests as possible in the hobs of finding a good rangen item. But with a success rate of 0.0001% its not worth trying.

So its working as intended... SSG just has retarded intents.
  

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Reply #14 - Dec 16th, 2021 at 7:01pm
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noamineo wrote on Dec 16th, 2021 at 6:42pm:
And the sad part is the devs have stated time and time again they want RNG to be relevant. This is unfortunately a core problem with SSG's design stratagem: they want it to be relevant but only 0.0001% of the time, because they want you to be working extra hard to open as many chests as possible in the hobs of finding a good rangen item. But with a success rate of 0.0001% its not worth trying.

So its working as intended... SSG just has retarded intents.


You can't sell RNG. That's why named loot will always be better. Although the Gem of Many Facets is certainly an attempt to introduce rng to named loot.

How's that go Noamineo?
  
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Reply #15 - Dec 16th, 2021 at 7:03pm
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Shinyshoes wrote on Dec 16th, 2021 at 7:01pm:
You can't sell RNG. That's why named loot will always be better. Although the Gem of Many Facets is certainly an attempt to introduce rng to named loot.

How's that go Noamineo?


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