Unfortunately, the chuckleheads who still buy VIP subscriptions and cocksuck Turbine at every opportunity (I call them the "Turbine Apologists/Brownnosers") are primarily the reason why Turbine will never change. As long as they have a rabid cult of sycophants, they see no need to improve.

It looks like a mental disorder, honestly. I'll never understand the propensity of these people to completely excuse the dozens of significant flaws that DDO has.

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The whole "stop spending money on the game so SSG makes improvements!" is a logical fallacy. If everyone stopped spending money on the game, SSG would not think "Oh, gee, I guess we better change our act and make all these improvements!"

They would simply go out of business.

Because unfortunately that's how business works: if everyone suddenly stops giving them money, it doesn't really matter what changes need to be made. No money = no game.

Standing Stone Games wrote on Jul 25^th, 2022 at 1:58pm:


Sure. But that doesn't make my point any less valid. No money = no game.

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You're not wrong. But, the market would close this game down. For whatever stockholm-syndrome reason, I'd rather pay than that.

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And you should stop spending money on it. Personally I am satisfied enough to keep paying. Or rather thee is no other game that satisfies me more so DDO gets my money. But believe me, the exact instant I find an MMO that I enjoy more, I will switch to that and never look back.

I'm same as bishop.  My VIP sub is well worth the value I pay for it.

Anothersock wrote on Jul 25^th, 2022 at 5:52pm:


This is what surprises me more than anything. I would think that the Vault would be the one place where people don't fork over their hard-earned cash to Turbine. This is part of the problem; why should Turbine improve if even its most ardent critics are still going to unconditionally give them money?

noamineo wrote on Jul 25^th, 2022 at 7:19pm:


I did. Many years ago. Pretty sure I've mentioned this several times in other threads.

In the past, when I was satisfied with the way Turbine ran things, I spent money (probably a couple hundo in total) to buy adventure packs and whatnot. Now I can play the game 100% for free. I have every single expansion pack, every class, and every race except Tabaxi. And I haven't spent a dime on the game in at least 5 years. However, I WOULD find an excuse to spend money on the game if Turbine ever changed their ways and showed a commitment to improvement. (Which they won't.)

A VIP subscription is hardly getting you anything, anyway. If you have played for years and done a lot of reincarnating, then you should have easily accumulated enough TP to buy all the content you need.

Gunga wrote on Jul 26^th, 2022 at 8:06am:


Can't believe I'm actually responding to Gunga, but it's far from the best game available. If you broaden your horizons beyond an extremely niche subgenre of a subgenre, you'll find that there are hundreds, if not thousands, of games which are more spending money on.

I'd rather continue to play for free, occasionally enjoying the nostalgia DDO gives me, and then give my money to developers who actually give a shit. That's, again, how a free market economy should work - you spend your money on quality products made by people who care. If DDO goes belly up, I honestly am not sure I would care too much. At any rate, bankruptcy doesn't happen overnight, and it's not like Turbine doesn't have time to improve. They've had an entire decade of continuously fucking up almost everything good that still remains in their withered, moribund husk of a game corpse.

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You're better for it now, but still below me.

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Just name one. I don't need a thousand games to play, you melon.

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Get a job.

Anothersock wrote on Jul 26^th, 2022 at 2:36pm:


Unless you make anothersock2 to agree with yourself, most would think those games are garbage comparatively.

Anothersock wrote on Jul 26^th, 2022 at 2:42pm:


You fancy yourself not a moron? Not from my side of the monitor.

Anothersock wrote on Jul 26^th, 2022 at 2:44pm:


Nice edit, Einstein. You're bad at this.

Anothersock wrote on Jul 26^th, 2022 at 2:48pm:


You could probably fix how poorly you type, spell, your grammar, how shit you are at games.

Unfortunately, you're slow intellectually and get mad at simple problems you don't understand. You project your dopiness onto others. I don't think you can fix that on your end.