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How do these idiots still have jobs?
Sep 22nd, 2022 at 4:13pm
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Someone seriously explain to me how these people still have jobs.  If you fucked up this badly in any other job on the planet, numerous employees would have their heads on the chopping block by this point. 

I very literally know people who got fired from bullshit jobs like managing a McDonalds because they overslept and lost an hour’s worth of revenue for a company that a single store’s daily profit doesn’t even count as a drop in a bucket.  There has to be a breakdown of how much they earn an hour and every added downtime equals loss of revenue and this update has had far more patches that past ones that brought bigger changes.

This is hands down the worst update I’ve seen in nearly a decade, which says something considering it’s a company whose name has become synonymous with incompetence and failure.  The motherboards are just flooded with complaints and even some of the most die-hard fanboys aren’t supporting them anymore.  It’s not even worth creating a new thread because it just gets lost in the 17 page sea of butthurt they’ve accumulated since the launch of a bunch of changes no one wanted.

Is this because the liberals are taking over?  Do they just hang out in the breakroom as a safe space, hugging each other going “no, it was a good update.  It’s just the mean, cis genders harassing us”?
  
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Reply #1 - Sep 22nd, 2022 at 4:16pm
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Oh, don't bring politics into it. They have a good license from back when the license wasn't worth much, and they run the asylum, so modest profits are enough to keep them running. Where's the shock factor?

The business doesn't exist to maximize profits. It exists to keep the current cigar club employed and, presumably, paid pretty well.
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Reply #2 - Sep 22nd, 2022 at 4:17pm
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Because bigger idiots keep giving them money.

If liberals ran the company you wouldn't be able to have dwarves because it's offensive, or the haggle skill because it was anti-semetic.

If conservatives ran it you wouldn't be able to choose a skin tone other than pale white, or post polls on the forums because they don't want people to vote.
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Reply #3 - Sep 22nd, 2022 at 4:37pm
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Bobbicus wrote on Sep 22nd, 2022 at 4:16pm:
Oh, don't bring politics into it.


Sorry, thought obvious hyperbole would be taken for what it was.  I'll try and dumb it down a little more next time  Roll Eyes
  
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Reply #4 - Sep 22nd, 2022 at 5:21pm
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liljiggy wrote on Sep 22nd, 2022 at 4:37pm:
Sorry, thought obvious hyperbole would be taken for what it was.  I'll try and dumb it down a little more next time  Roll Eyes



Is there really anything too hyperbolic nowadays that you read and dont say "Yeah that sounds like something  someone talking about politics would say"
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Reply #5 - Sep 22nd, 2022 at 6:14pm
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Not really. And that's the problem. I thought I was dealing with a raving idiot who also played vidyas.
  
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Reply #6 - Sep 22nd, 2022 at 6:15pm
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Bobbicus wrote on Sep 22nd, 2022 at 6:14pm:
Not really. And that's the problem. I thought I was dealing with a raving idiot who also played vidyas.


You sound like fun.

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Reply #7 - Sep 22nd, 2022 at 6:16pm
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somenewnoob wrote on Sep 22nd, 2022 at 5:21pm:
Is there really anything too hyperbolic nowadays that you read and dont say "Yeah that sounds like someone talking about politics would say"


No.
  

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Reply #8 - Sep 22nd, 2022 at 6:33pm
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Bobbicus wrote on Sep 22nd, 2022 at 4:16pm:
Oh, don't bring politics into it. They have a good license from back when the license wasn't worth much, and they run the asylum, so modest profits are enough to keep them running. Where's the shock factor?

The business doesn't exist to maximize profits. It exists to keep the current cigar club employed and, presumably, paid pretty well.


I would add that they have the ultimate job security; they can't be fired because no one in the industry would take the job if it came open.
  
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Reply #9 - Sep 22nd, 2022 at 6:40pm
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Notanarc wrote on Sep 22nd, 2022 at 6:33pm:
I would add that they have the ultimate job security; they can't be fired because no one in the industry would take the job if it came open.


Oh I would, but just to take a peek at the utter shitshow that their code must be. Plus it would be great,

Hey boss, I'm almost done, just need to test.

Does it compile?

Yep.

Go ahead and put it on the servers then.
  

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Reply #10 - Sep 22nd, 2022 at 6:48pm
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Supporting legacy code is not exactly a ton of fun.
Most of the devs don't play the game for fun anymore.

What you get then is a rational perception of the game rather than the developers being led by their nose for fun.

Add to this time crunch and release grind with low pay and you get our current situation.
  

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Reply #11 - Sep 22nd, 2022 at 6:49pm
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It's like walking into an old folks home and asking how the f*** this place exists when it's obvious there's massive abuse going on.

Just remember that there's very little money in most old people and that the people who started helping out of the goodness of their hearts have been worn down by time.
  

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Reply #12 - Sep 22nd, 2022 at 8:24pm
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WonderfulFoppyBint wrote on Sep 22nd, 2022 at 6:48pm:
Most of the devs don't play the game for fun anymore.


Did any of the devs ever play the game for fun?
  
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Gunga wrote on Sep 22nd, 2022 at 6:15pm:
You sound like fun.

Die in a fire.


Oh, come now. It's not like your opinion matters.
  
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Notanarc wrote on Sep 22nd, 2022 at 6:33pm:
I would add that they have the ultimate job security; they can't be fired because no one in the industry would take the job if it came open.


Good point.
  
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Reply #15 - Sep 22nd, 2022 at 8:38pm
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Notanarc wrote on Sep 22nd, 2022 at 8:24pm:
Did any of the devs ever play the game for fun? 


Lich did.
  
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Reply #16 - Sep 22nd, 2022 at 8:41pm
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Lich fucking used his/her/hermaphrodite's position as a way to force specific behavior out of people, or else he/she/hermaphrodite'd go whine off somewhere, and apparently ended up doing just that when people got sick of the stupidity.

What IS that brat these days, anyway? I've heard both answers.
  
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Reply #17 - Sep 22nd, 2022 at 9:41pm
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liljiggy wrote on Sep 22nd, 2022 at 4:13pm:
Someone seriously explain to me how these people still have jobs.  If you fucked up this badly in any other job on the planet, numerous employees would have their heads on the chopping block by this point. 

I very literally know people who got fired from bullshit jobs like managing a McDonalds because they overslept and lost an hour’s worth of revenue for a company that a single store’s daily profit doesn’t even count as a drop in a bucket.  There has to be a breakdown of how much they earn an hour and every added downtime equals loss of revenue and this update has had far more patches that past ones that brought bigger changes.

This is hands down the worst update I’ve seen in nearly a decade, which says something considering it’s a company whose name has become synonymous with incompetence and failure.  The motherboards are just flooded with complaints and even some of the most die-hard fanboys aren’t supporting them anymore.  It’s not even worth creating a new thread because it just gets lost in the 17 page sea of butthurt they’ve accumulated since the launch of a bunch of changes no one wanted.

Is this because the liberals are taking over?  Do they just hang out in the breakroom as a safe space, hugging each other going “no, it was a good update.  It’s just the mean, cis genders harassing us”?


They are their own bosses, its not a typical company where they have managers who can manage them. They are developers who manage themselves and they certaintly aren't going to fire themselves.
  
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Reply #18 - Sep 22nd, 2022 at 9:47pm
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Bobbicus wrote on Sep 22nd, 2022 at 8:41pm:
Lich fucking used his/her/hermaphrodite's position as a way to force specific behavior out of people, or else he/she/hermaphrodite'd go whine off somewhere, and apparently ended up doing just that when people got sick of the stupidity.

What IS that brat these days, anyway? I've heard both answers.


Born female, transitioned. Voice has very much deepened so obviously on hormone therapy.

Also it is remarkable how he just makes game changes based on forum posts. I mean in my line of work you'd at least have to run it up the flagpole. Executive producer or team meeting type of approval. Not SSG. Just rule by forum paladins.
  
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Reply #19 - Sep 23rd, 2022 at 4:26am
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Bigjunk wrote on Sep 22nd, 2022 at 8:38pm:
Lich did.


Most important question: does she still play with a single task bar?  I don't think any sums up why the devs are so clueless about in the game or flat out bad in their decision making process over what the game does or doesn't need than any of them playing with anything less than 6 task bars.
  
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Reply #20 - Sep 23rd, 2022 at 4:53am
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liljiggy wrote on Sep 23rd, 2022 at 4:26am:
Most important question: does she still play with a single task bar?  I don't think any sums up why the devs are so clueless about in the game or flat out bad in their decision making process over what the game does or doesn't need than any of them playing with anything less than 6 task bars.


Holy shit that's right! She or He did have a stream or some other video in game using a single hotbar. And it wasn't a level 1 character. Think level 12 ish?
  
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Reply #21 - Sep 23rd, 2022 at 5:15am
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I used to play (back when the game was more populous) with an extremely good player who only ever used one bar. Though they switched which it was looking at during quests on the fly so they still had access to everything.

Couldn't ever get on with that, I use all 20 like an OCD fuckwit.
  
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Reply #22 - Sep 23rd, 2022 at 6:55am
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My hotbars go up as a I level.  Right now, my 16 sorc has 7.  By the time I hit 30 it will probably be 10 or 11.
  
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Reply #23 - Sep 23rd, 2022 at 10:40am
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ManyCookies wrote on Sep 22nd, 2022 at 9:41pm:
They are their own bosses, its not a typical company where they have managers who can manage them. They are developers who manage themselves and they certaintly aren't going to fire themselves.


You did a way better job of describing this than I did. Kudos!
  
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Reply #24 - Sep 23rd, 2022 at 10:42am
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Bobbicus wrote on Sep 23rd, 2022 at 10:40am:
You did a way better job of describing this than I did. Kudos!


Low bar.
  

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