Gunga wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2022 at 10:42am:


Admittedly, yeah. I get paid for the good output

Someone has to keep those retards away from games that are actively thriving.

Flav wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2022 at 1:42pm:


They became their own bosses after the turbine split, are you sure they didnt give themselves high salaries to go with it?

Darcat wrote on Sep 24^th, 2022 at 4:42am:


DON'T SHAME ME FOR MY LIFE STYLE CHOICES!

Flav wrote on Sep 24^th, 2022 at 6:22am:


How much control does Daybreak exercise over their operations? Do they just take a cut or do they have managers there telling them what to do and how to do it?

And how did they go under Daybreak anyway, did they just get agree to get bought out after they split from Turbine?

ManyCookies wrote on Sep 24^th, 2022 at 9:10am:


The deal with Daybreak is kinda murky.  Daybreak was supposedly just the publisher for SSG, which is what SSG claimed around 2016.  But when Daybreak got sold to EG7 in 2020 it was disclosed that SSG was owned by Daybreak since 2016.  Someone was being rather loose with the truth, which is common for SSG.

ManyCookies wrote on Sep 24^th, 2022 at 9:10am:


I doubt very much at all. Most likely the only directive from on high is "keep the money flowing and reduce costs".

Notanarc wrote on Sep 24^th, 2022 at 4:42pm:


I suspect that ownership of SSG is divided up into shares much like a publicly-traded company(even though all shares are privately owned) and some of the higher ups at SSG DO own a portion of the company. Exactly how much is a matter of debate, but its probably less than 5%.

Still, this explains a lot of behavior. If the company is divided into shares, then the shareholders receive a payout every time it makes a profit. So Steel and the other high-level devs get paid shit salaries BUT each hardcore season, terrible xpac, or other massive cash-grab that turns a profit see them get fat payouts to supplement their meager wage.

This also provides an element of protection. As part owners(even if its a small part) its a bit harder to fire them. Though most likely they don't get fired owing to simple apathy: EG7 only cares that money is coming in right now, not about the long-term or quality of the product.

I believe Tolero was hired  because no one applied. She can not even code so how much help is she really? When Coco the old producer left did he even get work in the industry?

eighnuss wrote on Sep 26^th, 2022 at 11:08am:

I'm sure they have PLENTY of...

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Was Coco not both producer and programmer?
He left and they posted producer position.

Hardcore_Girl wrote on Sep 27^th, 2022 at 7:06am:


One day someone will figure it out. But sadly you are right.

Flav wrote on Sep 27^th, 2022 at 1:47pm:

What was that, like 34 years ago? Yikes.

Head-Meat wrote on Sep 27^th, 2022 at 4:47pm:


You're thinking of elephants.