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Dino crafting on Shields
Aug 2nd, 2023 at 5:37pm
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This should probably be obvious, and I would just go try it, but I don't have that many spare ingredients/Bonepickers.

If I slot say Meltscale in a shield, would my main hand weapon break Crystal/Byeshk and/or do 15d6 Acid Damage, or would it only affect my shield bashes?

If I slot Flamefang in a shield, would my mainhand gain bypass good and deal fire damage, or would it only affect Shield bashes?

I am guessing not, but thought it worth asking.

It seems OP if it does, and a lot like a wasted slot if it doesn't, bearing in mind the limited options on the Scale/Fang armor slots as well. Though it's another dread set item of course.


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Re: Dino crafting on Shields
Reply #1 - Aug 3rd, 2023 at 6:39pm
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146 views and no reply. I either asked a stupid question or a hard one.

It can't be no one likes me right? Right?

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Re: Dino crafting on Shields
Reply #2 - Aug 3rd, 2023 at 7:50pm
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Everling wrote on Aug 3rd, 2023 at 6:39pm:
146 views and no reply. I either asked a stupid question or a hard one.

It can't be no one likes me right? Right?

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I think it won't work. But, I haven't actually tested it. I'm guessing it's only shield bash. I could test it, but I'd have to buy bonepickers... So...
  


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Re: Dino crafting on Shields
Reply #3 - Aug 3rd, 2023 at 9:38pm
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i havent paid attention enough in a long time to give any kind of experience based answer, the first time i read the thread my brain wanted to say that the intended outcome would be that the shield specific enchantments would only effect shield bashes. i no longer remember specific examples but i am sure that is the intent and historical norm for shield enchantments. this is not to say it is impossible that this item or others were intentionally made to convey enchants to all attacks, such as in the case of runearm metal types and extra damage. however i also feel like i remember multiple things (not well enough to name them, just remember the situation) that should not have applied their effects to attacks but still did as a result of oversights from people who dont play their own game and arent creative enough to properly conceive or test all possible interactions. so i didnt answer because i saw no value in a pile of speculation based on 6 year old memories for current content.

i was a view that did not reply because i lack the frame of reference to answer
  

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Re: Dino crafting on Shields
Reply #4 - Aug 3rd, 2023 at 9:42pm
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just ask it on the mainbords.  Get 6 different answers, including one from lame marchall taking about epic normal and one from tilomere talking about big big numbers (also in epic normal)

Jujst pick one.  None of them qwill be correct or relevant.  Jujst like this one.
  
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Reply #5 - Aug 4th, 2023 at 7:59am
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Thanks a lot. At least I don't feel like it was a totally stupid question.

I might just suck it up and make a couple of the augments and then go run some quests/wilderness to replace them. If I make two things that I want on my main hand weapon just to test, it's only going to cost me one bonepicker, and I bought a handful of them when they were on offer.

If I do and get a definitive answer, I will post here for anyone else who doesn't know already.
  
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Reply #6 - Aug 4th, 2023 at 9:15am
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Everling wrote on Aug 4th, 2023 at 7:59am:
If I do and get a definitive answer, I will post here for anyone else who doesn't know already.


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Reply #7 - Aug 4th, 2023 at 1:59pm
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The bigger question is: what the hell build uses a shield these days? Sword and Board is dead. DEAD.
  

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Shunned wrote on Aug 4th, 2023 at 9:15am:
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No one deserves people like me, apart from the very evil.
  
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Reply #9 - Aug 5th, 2023 at 4:53am
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noamineo wrote on Aug 4th, 2023 at 1:59pm:
The bigger question is: what the hell build uses a shield these days? Sword and Board is dead. DEAD.


My new Tanky DPS build Smiley
Shield when tanking. Greataxe when tanky enough without it.

  
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Reply #10 - Aug 5th, 2023 at 9:39am
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noamineo wrote on Aug 4th, 2023 at 1:59pm:
The bigger question is: what the hell build uses a shield these days? Sword and Board is dead. DEAD.


Not even going to bother correcting you but I advice you to locate the closest source of fire big enough to envelope a human being and throw yourself in it.
  
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Re: Dino crafting on Shields
Reply #11 - Aug 5th, 2023 at 11:00am
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Artorias wrote on Aug 5th, 2023 at 9:39am:
Not even going to bother correcting you but I advice you to locate the closest source of fire big enough to envelope a human being and throw yourself in it.


let me guess: hes making statements like he knows they are true but they are actually factually wrong as there is some current meta where the inverse of his claims is universally understood to be true

he does that all the time, hes gay and retarded. and youre right for not correcting him- as correcting him has been proven to have no effect on this behavior
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Re: Dino crafting on Shields
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eighnuss wrote on Aug 5th, 2023 at 11:00am:
...as correcting him has been proven to have no effect on this behavior

I like to call it "being impervious to facts."
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Reply #13 - Aug 5th, 2023 at 3:25pm
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Everling wrote on Aug 5th, 2023 at 4:53am:
My new Tanky DPS build Smiley
Shield when tanking. Greataxe when tanky enough without it.



Sounds interesting. What's the mainhand weapon when not using axe?
  

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noamineo wrote on Aug 4th, 2023 at 1:59pm:
The bigger question is: what the hell build uses a shield these days? Sword and Board is dead. DEAD.


Well let’s give this a try…

Some swashbuckling bards.

Arcane EKs

EK Warlocks

Almost every tank

Most spellcasters

Almost every single divine build

I’m sure there are others.

True DPS melee are less than optimized by the advent of SWF. Bards and EKs actually at one time lost the buckler to offhand versatility, but that was nerfed to almost unusable now. But statements like that make me think you are a dev alt. Exactly how they think and react.
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Reply #15 - Aug 6th, 2023 at 8:08am
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noamineo wrote on Aug 5th, 2023 at 3:25pm:
Sounds interesting. What's the mainhand weapon when not using axe?


A bigger Axe!

Currently Baz, but I have enough runes for the Dread one. I might need the named raid belt to keep my dread set bonus while using both hands on the Dread Axe though.

I have 220 Strikethrough with the Dwarven Axe, but you only get 1.6x Ability Damage Mod. I might try Fighter later (Barb at the moment) to compare defensive stats and then try to boost attack speed with some Vanguard. Hmm actually 21 Points required to gain 10% attack speed...
  
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Reply #16 - Aug 6th, 2023 at 8:14am
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I have an Alt pure fighter with Kensei (Capstone and T5) and some Vanguard (33 AP) at the moment, it's not any more tanky than when it was THF and the DPS is just bad.

I have not got around to rebuilding that one yet, but it does need something.
  
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Reply #17 - Aug 8th, 2023 at 1:18pm
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I'm not sure about shields but I will say this; When on a shuriken build my off-hand weapon
didn't proc: DR bypass/meltscale/bright horn
did proc: meltfang
  
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Reply #18 - Aug 12th, 2023 at 11:41pm
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contessor wrote on Aug 5th, 2023 at 8:00pm:
Bards and EKs actually at one time lost the buckler to offhand versatility, but that was nerfed to almost unusable now.

Offhand Versatility is still useful for Swash at least. They've got the potential to get a good chunk of imbue dice when using it.

EK is better off just using daggers and full offhand from vistani though for sure.
  
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